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[Dynamite Shikoku]

If I was desperate for a job I would wait a whole day for the manager to come out of his office

 

[David Incorporated Esq.]

Treating him like shit is making someone wait for an interview? Seriously? That's a ridiculous statement

There's a difference between making someone wait for an interview and almost purposefully ignoring them. If the owner had told the secretary "Let him know I'm sorry but I'll be with him as soon as I can" it would have made all the difference in the world. That he made him sit and wait without any contact is grossly disrespectful.

I would never, never do that to someone.

 

[riotous]

He was aware I was sitting there. I could plain as day hear his conversation on the phone, just as I am sure he could hear my conversation with the receptionist. Also when I first got there she notified him I was there and brought me the paperwork and questionnaire he wanted me to answer and then personally took it to him and dropped it off.

Well then it was kind of rude of him.

Still an overreaction IMO.

 

[Telephoto999]

And, although a small company with a frazzled owner and 2 techs who just left is a recipe for burning out, it's also prime opportunity for getting your hands dirty way above your skill level, because they have no one else. For example:

Owner: Hey OP do you have any experience doing backups/networking/UNIX?
OP: Uh, sure (under breath: I back up my PC / set up a LAN party / played with a Linux VM)
Owner: Great, you're our new backup etc. manager!

6 -12 months later you can parlay that into a career somewhere else if you get burned out.

While I've had trouble getting interviews my skillset is high in demand in the Atlanta area and I am pretty confident something else will come along if I can hold out a bit longer. I recently got a misdemeanor expunged from my record which was holding me back dramatically... and I've been applying heavily and sending resumes for about 3 weeks now. I have 9+ Microsoft Certs, 1 Cisco, 2 CompTia and various other customer service related courses under my belt, along with 8+ years of total IT related experience. I am 27.

 

[Beardz]

 

[Kieli]

It's definitely a sliding scale sort of thing, not a binary situation.

You shouldn't need to beg like a hobo, but you shouldn't also walk out like your John Carmack being slighted.

 

[Effnine]

Please post what you said to him.

Agreed ... OP pls respond ...

 

[RumblingRosco]

He was testing to see if you have patience.

You did not pass.

 

[chris121580]

Assuming OP's account is accurate then 45 minutes is an unreasonable amount of time to make someone wait with no explanation. You don't simply let people take advantage of you because you need a job. I don't agree with this pro-grovelling attitude a lot of people have in this thread.

You can say this but he made no effort whatsoever to find out when the interview was going to take place while he was waiting. He chose to walk out instead of try to find out any additional information.

 

[Sinatar]

I actually sent an email to him the moment I got home and nuked any opportunity I had with him from orbit...

So not only did you pull the asinine move of bailing out, you then emailed the guy and burned the bridge completely?

Enjoy your life in retail, it fits you.

 

[Foffy]

He was aware I was sitting there. I could plain as day hear his conversation on the phone, just as I am sure he could hear my conversation with the receptionist. Also when I first got there she notified him I was there and brought me the paperwork and questionnaire he wanted me to answer and then personally took it to him and dropped it off.

I actually sent an email to him the moment I got home and nuked any opportunity I had with him from orbit... but I don't really feel bad about it. I do appreciate all of GAF's input and I enjoy getting differing perspectives on the situation. I will use it on my next interview.

So...you knew he was occupied because he was clearly occupied when you got there? And you still had the gall to simply not be patient and bail?

You literally sabotage yourself. Why did you nuke the opportunity because of your impatience? You knew he was on the phone! Wait for him to finish his shit!

I usually make people wait at least 30 minutes before I've interviewed them. If you really want a job, you'll wait. If you aren't willing to wait, you don't want the job that much, then I don't want you as an employee.

Sucks to hear you're in an apparent position of authority with a shitheaded mindset like that. It's one thing to be busy and you have to get X and Y done, but just making them wait is sincerely pointless. Would you like it if they decided to come to work and wait 30 minutes before doing anything? You can spin it with the "hehehe but I'm in power" horseshit, but as someone in authority, you create a model for others to follow.

Please, create a good model. You are running with a pretty inept idea on valuing time in the workplace.

 

[DoktorEvil]

Assuming OP's account is accurate then 45 minutes is an unreasonable amount of time to make someone wait with no explanation. You don't simply let people take advantage of you because you need a job. I don't agree with this pro-grovelling attitude a lot of people have in this thread.

No one said anything about him groveling or being taken advantage of.

He never gave a good reason to leave. From what it sounds like, he had none.

 

[Kerned]

Even a beggar gets pissed when you treat him like shit.

He wasn't treated like shit. He was expected to wait like a mature adult who doesn't need to be thanked and apologized for enduring a small delay. Sometimes interviews run late because the people conducting them are trying to do their primary jobs. This is doubly true when you are interviewing with the owner of company.

 

[No Love]

I read the op.

There is a reason you're unemployed.

LMFAO. Harsh but so true.

 

[Ferrio]

While I've had trouble getting interviews my skillset is high in demand in the Atlanta area and I am pretty confident something else will come along if I can hold out a bit longer. I recently got a misdemeanor expunged from my record which was holding me back dramatically... and I've been applying heavily and sending resumes for about 3 weeks now. I have 9+ Microsoft Certs, 1 Cisco, 2 CompTia and various other customer service related courses under my belt, along with 8+ years of total IT related experience. I am 27.

How long have you been unemployed in your field?

 

[David Incorporated Esq.]

While I've had trouble getting interviews my skillset is high in demand in the Atlanta area and I am pretty confident something else will come along if I can hold out a bit longer. I recently got a misdemeanor expunged from my record which was holding me back dramatically... and I've been applying heavily and sending resumes for about 3 weeks now. I have 9+ Microsoft Certs, 1 Cisco, 2 CompTia and various other customer service related courses under my belt, along with 8+ years of total IT related experience. I am 27.

Oh shit you'll be fine. Just remember next time that if you feel slighted, take action before leaving.

But seriously I'm dying to see that email!

 

[ShockingAlberto]

When you have an interview during work hours, when most interviews are, they don't just drop everything to hold it. Things come up. Pressing things. You are going to them for an opportunity to be employed, you don't have the luxury of going "Naw, you told me to be here at a certain time, I don't care if it interrupts your day, evaluate me and deem me worthy or else."

Or, you know, do exactly that. They do say beggars can't be choosers, but continually pissing off interviewers will probably make you understand that pretty literally.

 

[Telephoto999]

Please post what you said to him.

xxxxxx,

With all due respect I arrived at 2:45pm and walked out at 3:47pm. I filled out your application, took your test and was completed by 3:00. Your previous candidate that you were interviewing walked out around 3:05 and I waited an extra 40+ minutes for my interview that you scheduled at 3.. While I understand things come up, and business must keep going, I am also very professional in how I handle myself and any business relationships. To be made to wait, with not so much as you coming out to shake my hand, introducing yourself and letting me know you were running behind I feel was extremely unprofessional. While I respect your accomplishments and your business, I have no desire to pursue any sort of working relationship with your company.

Thanks,
xxxxxxx


edited: fixed some grammatical mistakes from editing out names

 

[daemissary]

Just say to the secretary "Hey, I really want this job but my interview was supposed to be at 3 and I have to be somewhere in a little bit...can you check with him to see how long it is going to be?"

That is literally all you have to do...communicate like an adult.

 

[BronsonLee]

Goddamnit Thacker.
GODDAMNIT

 

[Zoe]

xxxxxx,

With all due respect I arrived at 2:45pm and walked out at 3:47pm. I filled out your application, took your test and was completed by 3:00. Your previous candidate that you were interviewing walked out around 3:05 and I waited an extra 40+ minutes for my interview that you scheduled at 3.. While I understand things come up, and business must keep going, I am also very professional in how I handle myself and any business relationships. To be made to wait, with not so much as you coming out to shake my hand, introducing yourself and letting me know you were running behind I feel extremely unprofessional. While I respect your accomplishments and your business, I have no desire to pursue any sort of working relationship with your company.

Thanks,
xxxxxxx

At least you admitted to being unprofessional.

 

[David Incorporated Esq.]

xxxxxx,

With all due respect I arrived at 2:45pm and walked out at 3:47pm. I filled out your application, took your test and was completed by 3:00. Your previous candidate that you were interviewing walked out around 3:05 and I waited an extra 40+ minutes for my interview that you scheduled at 3.. While I understand things come up, and business must keep going, I am also very professional in how I handle myself and any business relationships. To be made to wait, with not so much as you coming out to shake my hand, introducing yourself and letting me know you were running behind I feel extremely unprofessional. While I respect your accomplishments and your business, I have no desire to pursue any sort of working relationship with your company.

Thanks,
xxxxxxx

Thacker you are my fucking hero. You should have a mod tag stating that you are my fucking hero, because you are my fucking hero.

Edit: Seriously people, one job opportunity in a lifetime is nothing, Thacker here had the golden opportunity to shove someone's shit attitude straight down their throat and took it. He's a god-damned hero.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

That was certainly rude but I probably would've at least asked the secretary if she knew when you'd be getting in to see the owner instead of just leaving.

this.

I would have asked the receptionist to make sure that he knew I was waiting. Making someone wait a fucking HOUR is unprofessional at the very least.

Hope it works out (or at least that this isn't the reason why they don't hire you) if it looked like a place you'd be comfortable at.

edit: saw the reply e-mail. gl on the continued search.

 

[djSyndrome]

Yes, please show us the email you sent to him.

I'm kind of hoping the prospective employer he dissed puts it up on social media.

EDIT: just saw the letter. I would never hire you in a million years.

 

[Enron]

xxxxxx,

With all due respect I arrived at 2:45pm and walked out at 3:47pm. I filled out your application, took your test and was completed by 3:00. Your previous candidate that you were interviewing walked out around 3:05 and I waited an extra 40+ minutes for my interview that you scheduled at 3.. While I understand things come up, and business must keep going, I am also very professional in how I handle myself and any business relationships. To be made to wait, with not so much as you coming out to shake my hand, introducing yourself and letting me know you were running behind I feel extremely unprofessional. While I respect your accomplishments and your business, I have no desire to pursue any sort of working relationship with your company.

Thanks,
xxxxxxx

Congratulations for handling this entirely wrong. Maybe there's a reason other than your record that you can't find a job. From reading several of your threads, i'm starting to think there might be.

If I've got a burning fire to put out at work, something that might impact client relationship or something similarly devestating, interviewees go on the backburner.

 

[Moff]

xxxxxx,

With all due respect I arrived at 2:45pm and walked out at 3:47pm. I filled out your application, took your test and was completed by 3:00. Your previous candidate that you were interviewing walked out around 3:05 and I waited an extra 40+ minutes for my interview that you scheduled at 3.. While I understand things come up, and business must keep going, I am also very professional in how I handle myself and any business relationships. To be made to wait, with not so much as you coming out to shake my hand, introducing yourself and letting me know you were running behind I feel extremely unprofessional. While I respect your accomplishments and your business, I have no desire to pursue any sort of working relationship with your company.

Thanks,
xxxxxxx

whever I see your avatar, I know there are great stories to be found. thanks and keep up the good work.

 

[.GqueB.]

I really want to know what else the OP had going on today.

This...

 

[WillyFive]

xxxxxx,

With all due respect I arrived at 2:45pm and walked out at 3:47pm. I filled out your application, took your test and was completed by 3:00. Your previous candidate that you were interviewing walked out around 3:05 and I waited an extra 40+ minutes for my interview that you scheduled at 3.. While I understand things come up, and business must keep going, I am also very professional in how I handle myself and any business relationships. To be made to wait, with not so much as you coming out to shake my hand, introducing yourself and letting me know you were running behind I feel extremely unprofessional. While I respect your accomplishments and your business, I have no desire to pursue any sort of working relationship with your company.

Thanks,
xxxxxxx

Sadness.

 

[terrisus]

I am also very professional in how I handle myself and any business relationships.

I feel extremely unprofessional

Clearly.

 

[Ric Flair]

xxxxxx,

With all due respect I arrived at 2:45pm and walked out at 3:47pm. I filled out your application, took your test and was completed by 3:00. Your previous candidate that you were interviewing walked out around 3:05 and I waited an extra 40+ minutes for my interview that you scheduled at 3.. While I understand things come up, and business must keep going, I am also very professional in how I handle myself and any business relationships. To be made to wait, with not so much as you coming out to shake my hand, introducing yourself and letting me know you were running behind I feel extremely unprofessional. While I respect your accomplishments and your business, I have no desire to pursue any sort of working relationship with your company.

Thanks,
xxxxxxx

That letter comes off a bit almighty to me. You could have asked the receptionist to reschedule for you or check on him to make sure he was aware you were there waiting. I understand it's aggravating to be made to wait, but I'd hardly consider what he did unprofessional and beneath you

 

[Kerned]

xxxxxx,

With all due respect I arrived at 2:45pm and walked out at 3:47pm. I filled out your application, took your test and was completed by 3:00. Your previous candidate that you were interviewing walked out around 3:05 and I waited an extra 40+ minutes for my interview that you scheduled at 3.. While I understand things come up, and business must keep going, I am also very professional in how I handle myself and any business relationships. To be made to wait, with not so much as you coming out to shake my hand, introducing yourself and letting me know you were running behind I feel extremely was unprofessional. While I respect your accomplishments and your business, I have no desire to pursue any sort of working relationship with your company.

Thanks,
xxxxxxx


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xxxxxxx,

Everything is all about me.

Thanks,
xxxxxxx

 

[J-Rod]

He may have been putting out fires. I doubt he intentionally meant to offend you.

 

[DoktorEvil]

xxxxxx,

With all due respect I arrived at 2:45pm and walked out at 3:47pm. I filled out your application, took your test and was completed by 3:00. Your previous candidate that you were interviewing walked out around 3:05 and I waited an extra 40+ minutes for my interview that you scheduled at 3.. While I understand things come up, and business must keep going, I am also very professional in how I handle myself and any business relationships. To be made to wait, with not so much as you coming out to shake my hand, introducing yourself and letting me know you were running behind I feel extremely was unprofessional. While I respect your accomplishments and your business, I have no desire to pursue any sort of working relationship with your company.

Thanks,
xxxxxxx

This is tag worthy here.

 

[Iolo]

xxxxxx,

With all due respect I arrived at 2:45pm and walked out at 3:47pm. I filled out your application, took your test and was completed by 3:00. Your previous candidate that you were interviewing walked out around 3:05 and I waited an extra 40+ minutes for my interview that you scheduled at 3.. While I understand things come up, and business must keep going, I am also very professional in how I handle myself and any business relationships. To be made to wait, with not so much as you coming out to shake my hand, introducing yourself and letting me know you were running behind I feel extremely unprofessional. While I respect your accomplishments and your business, I have no desire to pursue any sort of working relationship with your company.

Thanks,
xxxxxxx

This is now printed out and being passed around his office.

Anyway, I think you let a golden chance pass you by. No matter how many certs you have, in this economy, jobs do not grow on trees.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

Like, genuine question.

Did you ask the secretary before you left how long it would be or did you think, somewhere in your head, that doing that would be a sign of weakness and you needed to maintain a totally self-damning sense of pride by just walking out without adult communication first?

 

[Enron]

xxxxxxx,

Everything is all about me.

Thanks,
xxxxxxx

This is the impression that I get from _every_ Thacker thread I read.

 

[bigmf]

I hope people in your industry don't all talk to each other, because that's the kind of letter that gets passed around. It's the kind of thing that gets referred to as a career limiting move.

 

[Perfect Cha0s]

Thacker you are my fucking hero. You should have a mod tag stating that you are my fucking hero, because you are my fucking hero.

Edit: Seriously people, one job opportunity in a lifetime is nothing, Thacker here had the golden opportunity to shove someone's shit attitude straight down their throat and took it. He's a god-damned hero.

Having to wait 45 minutes means the owner has a shit attitude? Get over yourself.

 

[Effnine]

xxxxxx,

With all due respect I arrived at 2:45pm and walked out at 3:47pm. I filled out your application, took your test and was completed by 3:00. Your previous candidate that you were interviewing walked out around 3:05 and I waited an extra 40+ minutes for my interview that you scheduled at 3.. While I understand things come up, and business must keep going, I am also very professional in how I handle myself and any business relationships. To be made to wait, with not so much as you coming out to shake my hand, introducing yourself and letting me know you were running behind I feel was extremely unprofessional. While I respect your accomplishments and your business, I have no desire to pursue any sort of working relationship with your company.

Thanks,
xxxxxxx


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LOL wow ... you've got some balls, I'll give you that ...

 

[chris121580]

He may have been putting out fires. I doubt he intentionally meant to offend you.

Being short handed, this is a very safe bet

 

[Dreams-Visions]

That letter comes off a bit almighty to me. You could have asked the receptionist to reschedule for you or check on him to make sure he was aware you were there waiting. I understand it's aggravating to be made to wait, but I'd hardly consider what he did unprofessional and beneath you

I have to agree with this. Again, I would have requested that the receptionist check on the boss. Even if it was going to be a bullshit excuse like you have another interview scheduled for x:xx pm and was hoping to fit that one in today per previous arrangement.

After all, he has what you want: a job opening.

 

[Narag]

This is tag worthy here.

Junior or banned?

 

[genjiZERO]

You can say this but he made no effort whatsoever to find out when the interview was going to take place while he was waiting. He chose to walk out instead of try to find out any additional information.

Again, taking OP's word it sounds like it was supposed to be at 3.

No one said anything about him groveling or being taken advantage of.

He never gave a good reason to leave. From what it sounds like, he had none.

He had been waiting for 45 minutes with no explanation. To me, that's unreasonable. It would have taken him seconds to phone the secretary and say something.

 

[bigkrev]

xxxxxx,

With all due respect I arrived at 2:45pm and walked out at 3:47pm. I filled out your application, took your test and was completed by 3:00. Your previous candidate that you were interviewing walked out around 3:05 and I waited an extra 40+ minutes for my interview that you scheduled at 3.. While I understand things come up, and business must keep going, I am also very professional in how I handle myself and any business relationships. To be made to wait, with not so much as you coming out to shake my hand, introducing yourself and letting me know you were running behind I feel was extremely unprofessional. While I respect your accomplishments and your business, I have no desire to pursue any sort of working relationship with your company.

Thanks,
xxxxxxx


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You understand that a job is a privilege, not something that you are just entitled to?

 

[feel]

What a mess you made haha. Better luck in your next interview, live and learn.

 

[PeakPointMatrix]

xxxxxx,

With all due respect I arrived at 2:45pm and walked out at 3:47pm. I filled out your application, took your test and was completed by 3:00. Your previous candidate that you were interviewing walked out around 3:05 and I waited an extra 40+ minutes for my interview that you scheduled at 3.. While I understand things come up, and business must keep going, I am also very professional in how I handle myself and any business relationships. To be made to wait, with not so much as you coming out to shake my hand, introducing yourself and letting me know you were running behind I feel was extremely unprofessional. While I respect your accomplishments and your business, I have no desire to pursue any sort of working relationship with your company.

Thanks,
xxxxxxx


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Something tells me you've never actually worked anywhere before. Good luck finding that perfect, professional, immaculate job where everything is on time and happens on the dot.

 

[Trouble]

Way to burn that bridge, OP.

 

[Aesius]

xxxxxx,

With all due respect I arrived at 2:45pm and walked out at 3:47pm. I filled out your application, took your test and was completed by 3:00. Your previous candidate that you were interviewing walked out around 3:05 and I waited an extra 40+ minutes for my interview that you scheduled at 3.. While I understand things come up, and business must keep going, I am also very professional in how I handle myself and any business relationships. To be made to wait, with not so much as you coming out to shake my hand, introducing yourself and letting me know you were running behind I feel was extremely unprofessional. While I respect your accomplishments and your business, I have no desire to pursue any sort of working relationship with your company.

Thanks,
xxxxxxx


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Dude, this email is probably going to be legendary around that office and other IT firms in the metro Atlanta area. I bet the boss cracked up when he first read it.

 

[terrisus]

This is tag worthy here.

Junior or banned?

Unemployable

Dude, this email is probably going to be legendary around that office and other IT firms in the metro Atlanta area. I bet the boss cracked up when he first read it.

That's a good point too - I wouldn't be half surprised if it gets passed around.

Might want to change your email address - and maybe your name too.

 

[Foffy]

xxxxxx,

With all due respect I arrived at 2:45pm and walked out at 3:47pm. I filled out your application, took your test and was completed by 3:00. Your previous candidate that you were interviewing walked out around 3:05 and I waited an extra 40+ minutes for my interview that you scheduled at 3.. While I understand things come up, and business must keep going, I am also very professional in how I handle myself and any business relationships. To be made to wait, with not so much as you coming out to shake my hand, introducing yourself and letting me know you were running behind I feel extremely was unprofessional. While I respect your accomplishments and your business, I have no desire to pursue any sort of working relationship with your company.

Thanks,
xxxxxxx


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I could plain as day hear his conversation on the phone, just as I am sure he could hear my conversation with the receptionist.

Very clearly, there was a reason he didn't greet you.

I really cannot believe your logic here. Like, some of the stuff you've written in threads about shit related to employment like the Target thread has some reason in it. This...it's almost as if you are spinning a situation you made terrible and passing it off on the person who was occupied.

How do you have so much experience with certifications but not people and situations?