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Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 8: Put mii in, coach

Rest, my friend, and Smash will soon be yours.

It's just so strange to know that THE info dump is upon us. The last year went by WAY too fast (not that I'm complaining). What's more, Mario Kart has certainly done a magnificent job of taking my mind away from thoughts of empty posting in here to pass the last week faster. :lol
 
Why am I not surprised knowing you?
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This is what happens when you find amazing gifs in Senran Kagura threads (or was it Persona Q?).

Is that... m-m-mayo?
Mayo on top. I think thats soft serve ice cream on the bottom.
 
I'm most interested to see if we get newcomer(s) that are not on the Gematsu leak list.

If he shows a newcomer that's not on the list, the possibilities once again seem endless.
 
What I mean is, right now, since I believe in the Gemastu leak, all I'm letting myself expect are the remaining characters on the list: Palutena, Chrom, Shulk, Mii, Chorus Men, and Pac-Man.

So, if Sakurai were to show, say, Dixie Kong, or Takamaru, or Isaac, or whoever, this would make me think, "Oh, the Gematsu leak isn't the full extent of newcomers after all!"
 
Rosalina.
Yeah, Rosalina was on neither list, but she appeared between lists.

Some notes about the Gematsu leak:

- We're taking it in good faith that Gematsu was in fact contacted by the same person both times.

- Not identifying Greninja by name suggests this guy either sees the material but not the names and thus doesn't know Pokémon, or he's getting the info secondhand from an insider who is similarly situated.

This is assuming the leaker is legit, of course, but any knowledge of statistics/probability whatsoever makes it quite clear he is -- or at least, the first leak.

I mean, if you were trying to fake people out on the Internet, would you really list Wii Fit Trainer on your SIX guesses at newcomers? And Villager, who Sakurai had previously ruled out? And Mega Man, who was (and is) an inactive franchise no one expected to see after Legends was cancelled? I mean, a guy on the Internet makes six guesses, and he makes half of them unlikely characters (or in WFT's case, a character literally no one else guessed)? That guy definitely had insider knowledge.

It's also easy to see the rest of his list shaking out. Chorus Men, from Rhythm Heaven, seems like precisely the type of crazy character Sakurai would withhold to dazzle us with his creativity since he already did it once with Wii Fit Trainer last year. Shulk makes sense with his possible ties to X and if nothing else the legacy factor of a new IP in Xenoblade and a new key player in Monolith Soft. There was also the Xenoblade concert where Sakurai took the pic of the Monado replica prop. Then you have Miis, which have the immediate gimmick of "play as yourself, friends, families and celebrities," and are already made evident by the Find Mii and Tomodachi Life stages in the 3DS version. You have Chrom (which could still very well be "Chrom & Lucina" or some other permutation simply leaked as "Chrom") fulfilling the "new lord" quota, and Palutena and Pac-Man... Well, I don't think we need to go over those two.

So it very much feels like the leaks will continue to pan out. It's just a question of whether that's the full extent of newcomers, or if there are more. The leaker never said that it's all that's left.
 
Okay, I don't think that other guy (forgot your username lol) took my bet so:

I bet that Ridley will be revealed as playable at either the Digital Event, Smash Tournament, Smash Roundtable, Mysterious 3DS Roundtable, or in a POTD. (I just added the POTD part lol.)

And I mean a proper playable character and not a playable boss or something like that.

I also mean ANY Ridley. Super Metroid, Prime, Other M, or any other Ridley.

Two week avatar bet. Come on! Gotta do this before its too late!

BTW: Thanks for linking me to IRC. Its cool.
 
Waii! Finally I got approved so now I can join smashgaf in it's great quest for hype and feeding Sakurai's unending thirst for tears! :D

For those who've not bumped into me on my sporadic visits to smashIRC: Hi! :3
 
Okay, I don't think that other guy (forgot your username lol) took my bet so:

I bet that Ridley will be revealed as playable at either the Digital Event, Smash Tournament, Smash Roundtable, Mysterious 3DS Roundtable, or in a POTD. (I just added the POTD part lol.)

And I mean a proper playable character and not a playable boss or something like that.

I also mean ANY Ridley. Super Metroid, Prime, Other M, or any other Ridley.

Two week avatar bet. Come on! Gotta do this before its too late!

BTW: Thanks for linking me to IRC. Its cool.
I took it! Ridley is just a stage boss.
 
Yeah, Rosalina was on neither list, but she appeared between lists.

Some notes about the Gematsu leak:

- We're taking it in good faith that Gematsu was in fact contacted by the same person both times.

- Not identifying Greninja by name suggests this guy either sees the material but not the names and thus doesn't know Pokémon, or he's getting the info secondhand from an insider who is similarly situated.

This is assuming the leaker is legit, of course, but any knowledge of statistics/probability whatsoever makes it quite clear he is -- or at least, the first leak.

I mean, if you were trying to fake people out on the Internet, would you really list Wii Fit Trainer on your SIX guesses at newcomers? And Villager, who Sakurai had previously ruled out? And Mega Man, who was (and is) an inactive franchise no one expected to see after Legends was cancelled? I mean, a guy on the Internet makes six guesses, and he makes half of them unlikely characters (or in WFT's case, a character literally no one else guessed)? That guy definitely had insider knowledge.

It's also easy to see the rest of his list shaking out. Chorus Men, from Rhythm Heaven, seems like precisely the type of crazy character Sakurai would withhold to dazzle us with his creativity since he already did it once with Wii Fit Trainer last year. Shulk makes sense with his possible ties to X and if nothing else the legacy factor of a new IP in Xenoblade and a new key player in Monolith Soft. There was also the Xenoblade concert where Sakurai took the pic of the Monado replica prop. Then you have Miis, which have the immediate gimmick of "play as yourself, friends, families and celebrities," and are already made evident by the Find Mii and Tomodachi Life stages in the 3DS version. You have Chrom (which could still very well be "Chrom & Lucina" or some other permutation simply leaked as "Chrom") fulfilling the "new lord" quota, and Palutena and Pac-Man... Well, I don't think we need to go over those two.

So it very much feels like the leaks will continue to pan out. It's just a question of whether that's the full extent of newcomers, or if there are more. The leaker never said that it's all that's left.
I'm with you. I definitely think the Gematsu leak is real. I hope theres more because just twelve newcomers is just eh.

I think Ridley will be in, and if youmove the random button and make it very wide at the bottom, you can maybe add a 5th Side Mario rep amd make it look exacly like Brawl's roster lineup with 5 Mario, Side Mario, Zelda, and Pokemon reps. And have a even 50 with just Snake, Ivysaur, and Squartle cut.

Or you know, just go for 60 characters and blow me the fuck away. Hell, don't cut any Brawl or Melee characters, just bring em all back just because! :D

Either way, I believe in the Gematsu leak, but besides Palutena, who if she wasn't in, would be a bigger wtf than R.O.B. ever getting in Brawl, or Choir Kids, who just sounds awesome, I'm not really feeling the roster. I really wished for a female FE Rep. :/

Also, had a weird dream that Tanooki Mario was revealed as a newcomer at E3. Which is insane, but I'm now imagining a very awesome moveset. O_o

Edit: Okay okay, sorry. The Ridley bet is on Beez...bub..I have bad memory.
 
I'm with you. I definitely think the Gematsu leak is real. I hope theres more because just twelve newcomers is just eh.

I think Ridley will be in, and if youmove the random button and make it very wide at the bottom, you can maybe add a 5th Side Mario rep amd make it look exacly like Brawl's roster lineup with 5 Mario, Side Mario, Zelda, and Pokemon reps. And have a even 50 with just Snake, Ivysaur, and Squartle cut.

Or you know, just go for 60 characters and blow me the fuck away. Hell, don't cut any Brawl or Melee characters, just bring em all back just because! :D

Either way, I believe in the Gematsu leak, but besides Palutena, who if she wasn't in, would be a bigger wtf than R.O.B. ever getting in Brawl, or Choir Kids, who just sounds awesome, I'm not really feeling the roster. I really wished for a female FE Rep. :/

Also, had a weird dream that Tanooki Mario was revealed as a newcomer at E3. Which is insane, but I'm now imagining a very awesome moveset. O_o

Edit: Okay okay, sorry. The Ridley bet is on Beez...bub..I have bad memory.
Twelve newcomers really isn't that improbable at this point. I know everybody wants more than 12, but when you consider the 3DS version will likely be out before October, and when you consider we've already seen six, Sakurai would seem right on track with his reveal schedule. Then consider all the extra work that is going into the veterans, which is obviously more than before, and... Well, the Gematsu leak could be it. Which is why it'll be very exciting if a newcomer not on the list shows up at E3. :-)
 
I still stand by the assertion that Pac-Man, Mii, and Shulk will be revealed at E3 and that Chrom, Palutena, and Chorus Kids will be hidden. Those will be the only remaining newcomers. (If I'm wrong and there are more, great!)
 
I'm kind of hoping the leak proves to be wrong just because Palutena's the only character of interest for moi out of the remaining however-many that haven't been revealed :P You never know anyway: things change. The original leak predicted all would be shown at E3 but it didn't happen. Who knows how old the roster data even is by the time we heard it :o

As for Fire Emblem repping, I'm #teamRobin: I think more characters who take advantage of the way they're handling villager/wii-fit would be pretty neat and definitely more interesting than another blue swordsman for FE :3

Edit: Thankies intell! Looks like you were right about me getting in before E3 :D
 
Waii! Finally I got approved so now I can join smashgaf in it's great quest for hype and feeding Sakurai's unending thirst for tears! :D

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I predict somebody will have their hopes shattered this E3.
Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 9: Stage 1 Denial

remember when video game ads used to be so fucking edgy
Isn't that the guy from the new Metal Gear?
 
Waii! Finally I got approved so now I can join smashgaf in it's great quest for hype and feeding Sakurai's unending thirst for tears! :D

For those who've not bumped into me on my sporadic visits to smashIRC: Hi! :3

I would say you're here forever, but you already know that :P
 
Twelve newcomers really isn't that improbable at this point. I know everybody wants more than 12, but when you consider the 3DS version will likely be out before October, and when you consider we've already seen six, Sakurai would seem right on track with his reveal schedule. Then consider all the extra work that is going into the veterans, which is obviously more than before, and... Well, the Gematsu leak could be it. Which is why it'll be very exciting if a newcomer not on the list shows up at E3. :-)

Plus, 12 newcomers would put the roster somewhere around 45-48 characters (depending on how many cuts there are,) which, I think, is more realistic than the 50+ some people are predicting.
 
Okay, I don't think that other guy (forgot your username lol) took my bet so:

I bet that Ridley will be revealed as playable at either the Digital Event, Smash Tournament, Smash Roundtable, Mysterious 3DS Roundtable, or in a POTD. (I just added the POTD part lol.)
You know, much like the TeamReal TeamFake business I think we could once and for all say which side we're on when it comes to Ridley. E3 is around the corner so lets have a final say on the matter.

I'm TeamRidleyIsAStageBossGetOverIt

EDIT: I don't necessarily mean as a mass bet mind. Just a bit of fun.
 
I still stand by the assertion that Pac-Man, Mii, and Shulk will be revealed at E3 and that Chrom, Palutena, and Chorus Kids will be hidden. Those will be the only remaining newcomers. (If I'm wrong and there are more, great!)
I'm inclined to agree... with the remaining characters, not necessarily which ones will be shown at E3. Originally, I was expecting Palutena, Pac-Man and Mii at E3, just because that seems like an interesting combination, but now I'm inclined to think Chrom will show up, since Ike and Coliseum have set the stage. :-)

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Yep! <3 I was banned for a month because I made a joke in a Tomodachi Life thread where I depicted Reggie as a total bro who loves girl-on-girl action, which I guess was inappropriate given the otherwise serious discussion. That's what I get for trying to inject some well-meaning levity. :-D
 
You know, much like the TeamReal TeamFake business I think we could once and for all say which side we're on when it comes to Ridley. E3 is around the corner so lets have a final say on the matter.

I'm TeamRidleyIsAStageBossGetOverIt

EDIT: I don't necessarily mean as a mass bet mind. Just a bit of fun.

#TeamTooBig
 
I'm a Ridley agnostic.

I mean, yeah, we only have evidence to suggest he's a stage hazard.

But Sakurai works in mysterious ways.
 
Thanks for the welcomes folks :D
I'll try not to get myself banned but Neogaf seems it can be a bit of a minefield at times :p

I'm not fussed about Ridley but has Sakurai ever teased a character like this and not put them in? It seems odd to stretch it out with partial reveals and whatnot like that if there's no pay-off :o
 
I'm just hoping for a legitimate surprise from Smash this E3. Last year was so insane with Mega Man's reveal. We all know Pac-Man is coming and the Gemastu leak doesn't help with the surprise factor either.
 
"Melee's theme is from Terranigma because Nintendo published it in Europe!" is a huuuuuge stretch.

Yup, don't know how they came to that conclusion. The chords used in both songs are completely different, not to mention the chordal rhythm and progression. You might be able to argue that the melodic line is similar, but even that's a huge stretch.
 
Thanks for the welcomes folks :D
I'll try not to get myself banned but Neogaf seems it can be a bit of a minefield at times :p

I'm not fussed about Ridley but has Sakurai ever teased a character like this and not put them in? It seems odd to stretch it out with partial reveals and whatnot like that if there's no pay-off :o
The pay-off is the glee he receives from fucking with us.
 
I'm not fussed about Ridley but has Sakurai ever teased a character like this and not put them in? It seems odd to stretch it out with partial reveals and whatnot like that if there's no pay-off :o
That's why I think there's a chance Ridley is playable. I honestly don't really care at this point. He was my most-wanted character in Brawl but now I'm more concerned about Palutena, and at least she seems likely. But yeah, with Ridley, it would just seem anticlimactic for him to just be a stage hazard/boss after all this teasing. Hmm...

Psychologically, part of me refuses to let myself hope for playable Ridley, but the other part of me wants to believe.

At the end of the day, both sides will have been equally reasonable, as given Sakurai's history and all the ups and downs and reversals in Smash reveals, one can argue well for either side.
 
I'm just hoping for a legitimate surprise from Smash this E3. Last year was so insane with Mega Man's reveal. We all know Pac-Man is coming and the Gemastu leak doesn't help with the surprise factor either.
Yeah, although there could be some surprise in -how- the characters are presented, I.E. "Chrom" on the Gematsu list might actually be "Chrom & Lucina." But yeah, if the Gematsu list is legit as I suspect, it does rob the reveals of some dramatic impact.
 
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