fallen_dawn
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DerZuhälter;115691819 said:
Looks a bit like a mass-murderer. I guess it catches up to you eventually.
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Uncharted 4: A Thief's End (Naughty Dog) Shown - 2015
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Looks a bit like a mass-murderer. I guess it catches up to you eventually.
CyberPunked
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But it doesn't mean real-time. They almost certainly used rendering farms, with higher versatility assets to make this cutscene.
Betta Lines
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I'd reserve judgement until you see him in a scene where he hasn't nearly died in the middle of a moonlit jungle...DerZuhälter;115691819 said:
Interfectum
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https://twitter.com/Corrinne/status/476210914593492994
Linked the wrong tweet, my bad. Here she clearly says in-game.
Liamario
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In engine does mean in engine. In engine and in game can be mutually exclusive.
DerZuhälter;115691819 said:
I don't know about the uncanny valley thing, but Drake definitely seems changed and doesn't look as likable at the moment. But I feel like the description that someone posted just above you helps indicate why he doesn't seem (at the moment) to be the same happy-go-lucky guy that he was in the previous games:
Looks like a guy that is worn down and has done about as much as his body can handle and his will can carry him through.
Sword Of Doom
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What are we comparing it to though? Launch titles? I have my hopes up cause It's Naughty Dog and they have a way with these things
velociraptor
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Drake is a nice guy tho
gutterboy44
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Yeah, because if there is one studio out there who is notorious for half-assed graphics, massive down grades, bullshot trailers, dishonest "CGI" crap and other smoke an mirrors, it is Naughty Dog.
This is the one developer that has time and time proven the complete fucking opposite. They are, by a substantial margin, the most talented console developer when it comes to pushing console graphics to the limit with each new title. This is exactly why everyone was clamoring to see anything from ND on the new consoles, because we know it is the best glimpse into the future and potential of the new console hardware.
With the PS3, not only was each new title of theirs a league ahead of anything at the time, they ended up finishing off the hardware cycle with LoU, that seemed to defy the PS3's ancient hardware.
Not only do I think the game will look as good as they've shown, I won't be surprised to see other games looking just as good in a few years. This "debate" is just another symptom of the console wars. MS showed nothing exclusive to their console that even slightly approached that "truly next gen" moment this trailer invoked. PS4 already has the hardware advantage, and then a dev like ND just makes that gap quickly feel like a chasm.
In engine crow captured on PS4 hardware will be eaten when UC4 drops.
This is the one developer that has time and time proven the complete fucking opposite. They are, by a substantial margin, the most talented console developer when it comes to pushing console graphics to the limit with each new title. This is exactly why everyone was clamoring to see anything from ND on the new consoles, because we know it is the best glimpse into the future and potential of the new console hardware.
With the PS3, not only was each new title of theirs a league ahead of anything at the time, they ended up finishing off the hardware cycle with LoU, that seemed to defy the PS3's ancient hardware.
Not only do I think the game will look as good as they've shown, I won't be surprised to see other games looking just as good in a few years. This "debate" is just another symptom of the console wars. MS showed nothing exclusive to their console that even slightly approached that "truly next gen" moment this trailer invoked. PS4 already has the hardware advantage, and then a dev like ND just makes that gap quickly feel like a chasm.
In engine crow captured on PS4 hardware will be eaten when UC4 drops.
This thread is worth it just for the Threads reference. Thank you.
Anyway, I realize the idea is for Drake to seem a little more gaunt and tired thanks to the circumstances, but I still hope some of the charm is left. (And I know it might seem like the wrong thing to wish for, but go right ahead and release the Uncharted Collection for PS4 using this engine, Naughty Dog.)
And she later states in-engine. Even ignoring the discrepancy, something can still be in-game even if it's pre-rendered.
They're using the exact same terminology as they did for the initial TLOU trailer.
Well maybe we are just arriving at it though
Beowolf and polar express are prime examples for the uncanny valley in computer generated graphics and we are just arriving at that fidelity in games.Has it ever been defined where the uncanny valley starts exactly?
Yeah, I'd say he's hovering around his mid-60s at the least: Early 50s in Drake's Fortune + "a few" (let's say 3) years between DF and Among Thieves + a couple of years between AT and Drake's Deception + "several" (let's assume "more than three but less than 10" and arrive at eight) = ~65.
CyberPunked
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Exactly. The cutscenes (the trailer), in UC4 will be done in the same way that they did TLOU. Pre-rendered using multiple PS4s so to get a higher quality image that what gameplay will have. So by saying in-engine, and captured from PS4, they are not wrong.
Drake
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I've always imagined Sully as sort of a tragic character, meaning that I always thought he was doomed. I thought maybe ND was going to kill him off in UC3, but they didn't. Although I think there was some foreshadowing to Sully's death. In UC3 Elena makes a comment about how if Nathan keeps doing what he is doing someone is going to get hurt. Drake replies that he is fine and she says I wasn't talking about you and the camera pans to Sully. Now in this trailer we have Nathan talking a reluctant Sully into doing something he clearly doesn't want to do, but no matter what he'll always help out Drake.
We'll see what eventually happens, but I think there is a very high chance that Sully dies.
We'll see what eventually happens, but I think there is a very high chance that Sully dies.
DerZuhälter
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Hate everything I just read there. If Druckman turns this into dark and moody and everything has to be depressing slock, I'll hurl. It's ok to leave this franchise in a happy, popcorn-actiony corner.
Can Crusher
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I don't believe the game will look like that. It's too much.
ButchCat
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I hope they can squeeze enough juice out of the PS4 to make transitions between cutscene and gameplay and vice versa seemless and run them in realtime. No more 2 seconds black screen, pre-rendered crap followed by another 2 seconds blackscreen.
Edit: Also, skeletons trapped in the cages makes me think that it's hinting at a return to the location of the original El Dorado. I remember see a bunch of those in Drake's Fortune.
Edit: Also, skeletons trapped in the cages makes me think that it's hinting at a return to the location of the original El Dorado. I remember see a bunch of those in Drake's Fortune.
everyone thinks this is 10 years later cause drake looks older but lets not forget he had a wedding ring on. that alone will add ten years to his look. this is only one year after uncharted 3.
Dragon1893
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You mean like they always do?
Of course that's what's happening here, it's how they do cutscenes.
How close to this the gameplay will be is anyone's guess but I'm confident it wont be a big gap. If they're targeting 60fps they must be pretty damn happy with the visuals they are getting.
velociraptor
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DerZuhälter;115691819 said:
He looks like a cartoon in 1/2/3. The previous Uncharted games never had 'realistic' graphics. I think that's why.
efyu_lemonardo
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heh
It's an exaggeration for sure, but I did find her bio more impressive than his.
CyberPunked
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I'm not getting the hate for new Drake. He looks authentic. A grizzled veteran, similar to Joel. Also have no idea what you are talking about in terms of 'uncanny valley'
fallen_dawn
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Yes, he's one of the nicest murdering, public endangering, ancient-city destroying guys around
Apart from when he's getting Sully and the rest of his friends almost killed.
Just watched the gamersyde vid.
I don't know, if that's legit what it looks like, then it's a big bar-raiser. It looks a leap ahead of anything else.
I want to see more, the gameplay.
Only think I'll say on whether it's 'real' or not is that in the gamersyde video, some shader aliasing is visible in the small detail and closeups of Drake's face. Take from that what you will.
I don't know, if that's legit what it looks like, then it's a big bar-raiser. It looks a leap ahead of anything else.
I want to see more, the gameplay.
Only think I'll say on whether it's 'real' or not is that in the gamersyde video, some shader aliasing is visible in the small detail and closeups of Drake's face. Take from that what you will.
I loved this ep, didn't see it coming, just hearing their voices gave me the biggest grin
SoraanTribal
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I really need to see Nate in better lighting and less beaten up to judge his face too much. I do think he looks a little different (and I don't mean just older). Not bad, but just different.
velociraptor
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And here many people on this board suggested the PS4 would be maxed out quite early. Heh. It's good to see there is untapped juice in the system.
I cannot wait to see God Of War PS4. I think that will melt faces.
DerZuhälter;115693580 said:
It's Druckmann and Straley. I'm pretty confident that they know what to do, if anything I'd consider that pair to be some of the best game directors in the business. Their credits include Uncharted 2 and TLOU. I think this game will be okay, and I'm not saying that I think the whole adventure will be TLOU style Drake, but I do think that when we see him at this moment, that he doesn't appear to be too happy about it. That doesn't mean that I think he's going to be one note the whole way through.
If Naughty Dog has proven anything over the past gen, it's that they know how to do characters.
no shit, i was making a joke about marriage. guess my sarcasm sucks
Rising_Hei
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DerZuhälter;115691819 said:
We only got a short sample of him and he was having a really hard time, come on...
It'll be an interesting comparison. This is the first time both games have targeted 60fps (assuming God of War is continuing with tradition in that regard).
AuthenticM
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I want this game.
LiquidMetal14
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This is like the most back handed compliment. But it's the most intersting fom 1st party? Based on all we hav I'd out Bloodborn ahead of this for now.
Much as I love Uncharted and am looking forward to this game, I'm equally excited at the prospect of Naughty Dog actually ending the series (inevitable spin-offs from other studios notwithstanding). In an industry dominated by franchises that have been milked to death and beyond, it's kind of refreshing to see a popular game series end (however that plays out) on the original developer's own terms.
I'm sure TLOU's success is a huge part of this, as it gives them another franchise to mine for a couple more games plus the clout and confidence to be successfully launch new IP.
I think that's intentional and part of the story. He's supposed to be older and wearier.
I'm sure TLOU's success is a huge part of this, as it gives them another franchise to mine for a couple more games plus the clout and confidence to be successfully launch new IP.
DerZuhälter;115691819 said:
I think that's intentional and part of the story. He's supposed to be older and wearier.
There's no doubt in my mind the game will look good, but it's not going to look as good as the trailer while playing the game. Especially not if ND are targeting 60 frames per second at 1080p. Methinks a lot of people are going to be disappointed when comparing the final product to this trailer.
dgrdsv
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UC = Drake. The last UC with Drake = the last UC, period. Wanna bet that there won't ever be a UC without Drake?
I don't think so. I think that ND may want to move on after UC4 but whoever will continue will do this with their supervision. Golden Abyss is a good example of that. It's very UC in it's core even though it was made by Bend.
spookyfish
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That's how I feel about all of these conferences: Sony, MS, EA ...
It's like the old "show CG cutscene on back of the box" trick.
Which are the guys who also directed Uncharted 2...
Are we going to keep doing this exercise? Lol