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Yeah. But the official word is that this will be a private demo that may or may not be shown at a later date. My guess is we get a taste of gameplay on Thursday from IGN.
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Yeah. But the official word is that this will be a private demo that may or may not be shown at a later date. My guess is we get a taste of gameplay on Thursday from IGN.
Based on the press' previews. If press is blown away, they will release it, if not, they will take feedback, fix what they need to fix and invite them again until Kojima is satisfied with the press' reaction.
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private gameplay demos should be considered crimes against humanity
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You think so? I don't know, man. I mean, at a certain point, the game is going to be what the game is going to be. I'm sure he's genuine when he says he wants the hype to build from within, but I do think we'll see something -- maybe five minutes, if we're lucky.
Yeah, the Scarabs. I figured that was the reason, but they didn't make it very clear. They made it seem like he had to physically go in there so he himself could upload the virus.
I certainly hope so.
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Has anyone suggested yet that this protrusion from Venom Snake's skull is a mutation as a result of being exposed to nuclear fallout a la the mini-nuke in the beginning of MGS3? Think about it -- that very action is what villainized The Boss, or rather, it made her a scapegoat for a far more serious international issue. And now Big Boss is perceptibly transforming into a villain. There has to be some connection drawn here, maybe.
"I'm nuclear!"
"I'm nuclear!"
Has anyone suggested yet that this protrusion from Venom Snake's skull is a mutation as a result of being exposed to nuclear fallout a la the mini-nuke in the beginning of MGS3? Think about it -- that very action is what villainized The Boss, or rather, it made her a scapegoat for a far more serious international issue. And now Big Boss is perceptibly transforming into a villain. There has to be some connection drawn here, maybe.
"I'm nuclear!"
Kojima already said it was shrapnel. Plus, it'd have been 20 years after that nuke went off with no sign of anything until 1984.
100% agree.
I never doubted Kojima's abilities to deliver a masterpiece and I think he wants to take precautions to ensure that his game will be widely accepted and appreciated without having anyone altering with his real vision.
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That trailer was one of the best I have ever seen.
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Yeah, I don't doubt that he will deliver a masterpiece. I don't think he's closing this off because he's worried about the quality. He has actually done a great job of avoiding perceived spoilers this time around and I think he wants to keep it that way to let the player go in fresh. I don't know, that's just my take. Don't worry, we will see something for sure!
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Why hasn't Snake/Venom/Punished/Big Boss/whatever the fuck he's called had surgery to remove the shrapnel?
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ya lol from that point on old snake feels like a escort to the MK III just to make sure it can do its job
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Because how else would we know that Big Boss is doing bad things without a stupid fucking demon horn sticking out of his head.
SYMBOLISM!
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much like a bullet maybe how the shrapnel is embedded in his head it would be to dangerous to take it out, which is why the doctors bandaged it and left it as is. Now snake sees it as a reminder of his pain and fallen comrades, and uses it as motivation for revenge.
Apparently it's in a spot that's too sensitive to remove.
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Listening to Mike Oldfield songs on youtube.
Kojima has excellent taste on music
Kojima has excellent taste on music
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"Legendary Hero"
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YongYea is working on one right now. His analysis videos are generally pretty excellent! Will link when it goes up. ;-)
The most popular upload of that song had less than 10,000 views before yesterday. Now, it has over 74,000. Insane!
Ha!! I'm not goat. Never was... Never will be.
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Thanx
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kojima really does those musicians a favor putting their music in his game trailers because then their views sky rocket. Wont be surprised if it becomes one of the most purchased songs on itune this month either.
Seriously? I hate his voice. He's claimed some theories for himself before, too. The guy is a hack.
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Love it, it's the artwork in my avatar perfectly adapted.
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Don't mention it!
Yeah, for sure. I've been singing it since I heard it for the first time yesterday. Kojima's got a taste for great music.
Do you have proof that he wasn't unaware that he had been beaten to the punch? Also, is there another Metal Gear source who provides frame-by-frame breakdowns on YouTube? If so, link me and I'll give them a listen. If not, I don't know what to tell you other than "OK."
Love that avatar, dude. <3
"Here's to you" & "Not your kind of people" are prime examples of how MGSV made them popular. The latter had 50 000 views before GDC 2013. Look at the views now. Garbage sent a special thank you to Kojima on Twitter.
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ive had the son of a bitch song stuck in my head ever since I saw the trailer leak early monday morning, it wont get out lolDon't mention it!
Yeah, for sure. I've been singing it since I heard it for the first time yesterday. Kojima's got a taste for great music.
Do you have proof that he wasn't unaware that he had been beaten to the punch? Also, is there another Metal Gear source who provides frame-by-frame breakdowns on YouTube? If so, link me and I'll give them a listen. If not, I don't know what to tell you other than "OK."
Love that avatar, dude. <3
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Snake reminds me of Walter White in season 5 of Breaking Bad
Didn't Kojima say he loved Breaking Bad? He probably took inspiration from the show.
I dont even care if story mode doesnt get shown, I know that will be great already.Snake reminds me of Walter White in season 5 of Breaking Bad
Didn't Kojima say he loved Breaking Bad? He probably took inspiration from the show.
He does love Breaking Bad, but last I heard from him on Twitter, he said he hadn't yet finished the series because of how busy he is.
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I haven't played any of these games since mgs1. Though I did see friends play mgs3 and mgs4. Which games should I directly play to be able to get what's going on immediately with this title?
I understand ground zeroes and peacewalker. But where can I play peacewalker? I don't own a psp or wherever it was released does pc or a current console have it?
I understand ground zeroes and peacewalker. But where can I play peacewalker? I don't own a psp or wherever it was released does pc or a current console have it?
Look up the MGS HD Collection on Amazon. It comes with Peace Walker, MGS2 and 3 for PS3 or 360. The Legacy Collection comes with even more.
In last years trailer we could also see that his body seems to be littered with tiny shrapnel fragments. The one in the head is probably too dangerous to get out, but I could imagine that he also wants the pain
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you can play it on ps3 if you by the HD collection.
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In last years trailer we could also see that his body seems to be littered with tiny shrapnel fragments. The one in the head is probably too dangerous to get out, but I could imagine that he also wants the pain
that explains all his scars, wonder if he will pull a joker "wana know how i got these scars.........well this is from a helicopter crash, this is from a bomb exploding, this is from getting my own comrade to stab me, oh and this one is my fav its when ocelot shot my eye out see. Someone really has got to tell snake, man i think you made the wrong career choice lol
Also that kind of explains phantom pain, his body is in anguish and remarkable pain but it is invisible to the naked eye
They're really trying to set BB as a villain and it will never work. After mgs3, PW and Mgs4 it's impossible to hate BB, He has all the motives to do what he did, and if we analyze it, Snake is the "villain", even if he doesn't even know it. He's been fighting against the opponents of the Patriots.
People keep saying he will be a villain, even Kojima, but I just don't see how. At best, he's a guy with good intentions but gets blinded by revenge and ends up letting things escape his control. Same could be said about Drake, Max Payne, Wolverine, and so many others. Miller said he was a monster in the early games, but that will be retconned to hell.
After Mgs4 it's impossible to look at him as a villain, in the most conventional way (a guy who's in it just for money or world domination or just plain crazy who wants to see the world burn). He might have taken a wrong turn somewhere down the road, but his intentions are good. Snake too had good intentions and yet was manipulated throughout the entire franchise and thanks to his efforts the patriots were able to remain in power for so long. He's he to blame? I don't think so.
Maybe the real answer is that like in the AC franchise, there are no real "heroes and villains". Everything is grey. It would be jarring to turn big boss from a hero, to a despicable villain, to a sympathetic old man again.
Sorry for the rant.
People keep saying he will be a villain, even Kojima, but I just don't see how. At best, he's a guy with good intentions but gets blinded by revenge and ends up letting things escape his control. Same could be said about Drake, Max Payne, Wolverine, and so many others. Miller said he was a monster in the early games, but that will be retconned to hell.
After Mgs4 it's impossible to look at him as a villain, in the most conventional way (a guy who's in it just for money or world domination or just plain crazy who wants to see the world burn). He might have taken a wrong turn somewhere down the road, but his intentions are good. Snake too had good intentions and yet was manipulated throughout the entire franchise and thanks to his efforts the patriots were able to remain in power for so long. He's he to blame? I don't think so.
Maybe the real answer is that like in the AC franchise, there are no real "heroes and villains". Everything is grey. It would be jarring to turn big boss from a hero, to a despicable villain, to a sympathetic old man again.
Sorry for the rant.
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I think they'll pull it off, I think we'll see Big Boss doing unspeakable things or crossing lines we'd never known he's crossed and we'll see him turn into the person that could create a state like Outer Heaven. Just because he realizes how wrong he was years later wont' detract from the impact of seeing him break bad.
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I agree i love big boss but we have no idea who he kills in this game and what lengths he goes. We already know he uses child soldiers that can be seen as evil and devilish already, no matter who you are fighting.
Right. The means doesn't always justify the end. Look at Solidus in MGS2, for example. He had a good cause, but he went about it in a villainous way.
Exactly, even if I found myself agreeing with Solidus's motives of stopping censorship and tyrannical rule, he was still willing to allow terrorists to use weapons of mass destruction on innocents just to create a 'diversion'.
The stories wouldn't have the epicness nor the emotional impact without the entire main canon. I agree that the retcons hurt it & it isn't in a straight line, but saying "ignore the canon" is foolish. The canon is awesome as a whole.
Yeah, detonating a nuke in the upper atmosphere above NYC just to crash Wall Street so the Patriots get crippled would only end up hurting the rest of the world economy along with it. That's one thing I've liked about a bunch of the 'bad guys' in the series. They're out for a good cause, but they will kill/hurt innocents in their way.
But that's the thing..If I was in a position where someone killed or hurted my loved ones, I too would probably snap and go to far just to get even. I think that is to be expected from a common human being. I don't consider Solidus to be a villain (except for his early days recruiting children), because he had a good motive. I can't say the same about Liquid, for instance. He was just doing it out of spite and to show that he wasn't inferior, no, he could and would surpass his father. That's just evil. Volgin was in it just for power and to overthrow the government.
But Solidus wanted to free people from control, Ocelot was helping everyone who stood up to the patriots (even though he was/is a nutjob) and even Zero was trying to bring harmony to the world (even if by the wrong means). Zero is like the Templars, they believe humanity will never reach peace through liberty of will, so they want to control it to ensure that we don't destroy ourselves.
Snake and Co are like the assassins, they want to free us from control and build from there. I would say that the only two "real" villains in the franchise are Liquid and Volgin. They were in it for the most shallow of purpose. The others had at least a noble intention. I feel like BB is more like these than Liquid or Volgin. It's hard for me to see him as a BAD man..
If mgs4 hadn't existed, I could totally buy him becoming a demon. But, unless that too is retconned in the future, it's a little jarring for me. But it's no dealbreaker, i'm super hyped for this.
Btw: I saw your videos man on the sharefactory thread! They're awesome ocelotyourerprettygood.gif
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Yeah, best after 1, 2, and 3.
lol, thanks. But still Solidus was willing to give a hydrogen bomb to Dead Cell to use at their leisure, i.e, on millions of innocents, simply so they'd create a diversion for the Patriots and allow him to attack them unawares. Say what you want, but as noble as Solidus's goals were, he was a terrorist willing to kill innocents to further his goal.
Big Boss, Liquid, Solidus, they're all bad guys even if their justifications made sense, only Solid Snake and The Boss are the ones who remained loyal and heroic.
Calling Big Boss a good guy would be like calling Walter White from Breaking Bad a good guy, which is just the most untruest thing ever. Even if we can find it in ourselves to sympathize with them at times.
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we've seen big boss in a number of different outfits now. i wonder if we'll be able to customize him at mother base at all, or if all the wardrobe changes are just scripted.
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