ZombiePlatypus
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Fantastic news. Even if it's a portable up-port, I'll gladly take an HD console JRPG.
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Final Fantasy Type-0 HD coming to PS4/Xbox One (no Vita), Agito coming too (iOS/And)
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Canis lupus
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The Vita owning FF fanbase, not the collective FF fanbase.
Just sayin, this game is 3 years old. It was in no one's attention but one group of people who kept asking for it, in the end they succeed only for SE to bring it to other platforms. No one is saying that it's bad it's coming out on other platforms, it's great because it needs the exposure. It's just weird the group of people that showed interest and convinced Square to bring it over are ignored.
Don't buy it then?
I feel your pain, it's a hard lesson to learn, 'don't buy a system thinking a particular game will be released on it'. Pain of Versus13 still lingers with me.
Canis lupus: Why are PSP owners automatically counted as Vita owners?
This looks closer to PS3 than PSP.
Kagari said it wouldn't be well optimized so I'm doubting it'll look like that to be honest. Do we even know if that's an actual screenshot and not just CG?
Duxxy3
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I'll buy it, but it's not worth $60 to me. I don't have an impulse control problem, I can wait for it to hit $40.
This looks closer to PS3 than PSP.
This is SE. They always announce games early with target renders and a logo. There is a high chance it won't look like that lol.
MrChowderClams
Member
Woah wait. To PS4 and XBone? Just how much of a remaster is it? I wonder if they're just increasing the rendering resolution and textures and calling it a day or if they're upgrading models as well..
It has to look significantly better to justify releasing it on next gen.Other wise what's the point, ya ?
Plus,SE delivers on visuals consistently.
Pretty much this. Not just that but with the $60-supporters: this is still just a placeholder...
Honestly, I am surprised with people sticking up for the pricing, if it does turn out to be $60, that is.
bobawesome
Member
Embarrassing that it's not coming to Vita. I'll probably pick up the PS4 version at some point and play it in bed that way.
Femmeworth
Banned
SE: *laughs*
The only reason they will put any effort into it is because of mandates* from Sony.
* - I base this on SCEA not approving straight PSP -> PS3 ports.
I'm more worried about performance than visuals.
Frame rate was terrible in FFXIII-2 and Lightning Returns.
I think that's what Kagari is hinting at.
We'll see. If it's not well optimized then it sucks they're not bringing it to PS3 too. I mean unless it's releasing well into 2015.
Also that shot looks like a decent PS3 game. Nothing like CG.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I just realized this game was announced on mobile, and it will end up on PS4/Xbone. Pretty mind blowing journey.
xiaxdragon
Banned
Yeah, about that...
oh hey look a game not developed by square enix.............really dude?
Access Games developed Drakengard 3 not SE.
You're talking about a company that made mostly PSP Games!
cj_iwakura
Member
Yeah, about that...
I know you're smarter than that. That's an early screen, and Square didn't make D3.
Drakengard 3, not developed by Square Enix.
Works for us no ? ;D Plus music has to be remastered from PSP sound.Pretty exciting!
I don't think she can know that.Unless maybe she's seen the game in person.
SE games perform generally well.
Yeah, the last few remasters have been pretty good looking so faith here. To be honest, i'm just glad its finally being released outside of Japan.
plutoknight
Member
Yeah, about that...
That wasn't SE developed, just published. Access games are responsible for those visuals.
Wasn't PS4 at 7,2 million by the end of March 2014? You'd think they have sold ~1+ million units in the 2+ months since then, unless sales have dropped off the cliff.
There aren't a lot of JRPGs. People who want Japanese (role-playing) games on PS4 have fuck all to choose from and Type-0 HD might be selling to a starved crowd.
Other than Japan? Even Sony doesn't really seem to have much for it other than Freedom Wars, that weird JRPG with the lineage stuff and Soul Sacrifice 2.
By the time this releases, Xbox 360 will probably be on its deathbed (especially when it comes to releases like Type-0 HD, some CoDs and the like might still sell decently) and PS3 will be following its footsteps sooner rather than later. The people who actively buy games are moving on to current gen and PS360 are withering away much faster than PS1 or PS2 did. Some PS4 & Xbone multiplatform releases are already outselling their last-gen counterparts and publishers are starting to abandon PS360 altogether apart from the biggest franchises like CoD and sports games.
It just seems like you are constantly talking as if they are releasing it NOW. Sure, the install base isn't all that big yet and PS360 are still relevant, but it's an actively game-buying one and growing at a steady pace with no reason to think it'll be any different in the next 12-18 months (well, other than the slow summer months). The situation will very likely be much better in 12+ months from now, while both PS3 & 360 continue withering away. And Vita is already pretty irrelevant, other than indies, it will be even more irrelevant in 2015.
And it's not nonsense logic. If PS4 doesn't get even half-big releases before FFXV, it's pretty much guaranteed that FFXV itself will probably sell worse due to it. It's a system seller, sure, but the few hundred thousand people who might buy a PS4 to get FFXV aren't enough to count for all of the usual 1,5-2+ million people who've ended up buying mainline FFs in Japan in the past (and this game probably needs to sell at least 1+ million in Japan, even if the action RPG gameplay helps it in the West). Of course if FFXV ends up being sensationally well received, one of the best JRPGs of all time or something, then that might not matter as much, but if it's just a "typical" FF, then that might not be enough to get a lot of people buying unless they've had other reasons to buy the consoles before.
Yeah, and for some, Type-0 might be a reason to get it sooner rather than later, especially when they know FFXV & KHIII are also coming at some point. And then those people will have a PS4 or Xbone already when FFXV releases, making it all the more likely they'll buy it at full price on Day 1. And others get more reason to get a PS4 or Xbone too, which will make it likelier that they'd pull the trigger and buy a PS4 or Xbone before or once FFXV's releases.
They seem to be making this more than just the most straightforward & simplest of ports. At that point, porting it to Vita might be too much of a hassle.
It's not dumb to want to look into the future and try to make steps that help make it likelier that that future is a good one. Not having a JRPG of the scope of FFXIII on PS3 until the end of its 3rd year really harmed the home console JRPG market. Type-0 HD is one more reason for JRPG fans in Japan (and all over) to get a PS4 or Xbone.
PS4 & Xbone's combined sales are already (over) half-way there to 25 million and they've only been on the market for about 7 months. If they can do that with the line-ups they've had and Xbone's price, then they can do a lot better in 12 months and with the kind of line-ups. Xbone just got a price-drop, we have a Fall filled with some pretty big releases that will get people to buy the new consoles + the Holidays + what is shaping up to be a potentially incredible Spring 2015 with all kinds of Witcher 3s, Batman Arkham Cities, Bloodbornes and whatnot. You don't need to be a fortuneteller to make the prediction that PS4 & Xbone combined will sell at least 10-15+ million units within the next 12+ months and that's lowballing their sales. PS4 alone will probably do those kinds of numbers in the next 12 months if not a lot more. And, hell, if MS getting their act together has a big enough impact, they might BOTH easily do those kinds of numbers within a year, meaning even 40 million isn't totally out of the question by mid 2015. Speculation? Sure, but far more likely than them suddenly stalling and staying at Vita-like numbers.
No, but I've followed the industry for most of my life and I've read what goes into the decision making in a lot of businesses. Evaluating future endeavours is one part of that. Those are the kinds of things that are considered when making decisions. Releasing the game on Vita might give them ok sales, but it doesn't help their future, as Vita is likely not living long past 2015, whereas PS4 & Xbone are just coming on their own in 2015 with cross-gen shit taking less & less attention, so it would make sense for Square Enix to focus on those platforms instead of Vita. PSP already showed them that focusing on a dead-in-the-west platform doesn't make much sense and can even harm them in the long run, when pretty much every major & minor release bombed and then they were late to everything.
And of course it's just speculation, but it's on a hell of a lot more steady ground than wondering why on Earth does a big publisher not support one of the worst selling gaming platforms of all time. Some platforms have done a lot better than Vita and the likes of EA, Ubisoft, Square Enix, Konami etc. have still abandoned them fairly early (if they've really supported them at all).
cj_iwakura
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And the final game doesn't look like that.
plutoknight
Member
fuck you I want my X1 version.
RadarScope1
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I'm just catching up with the updates. Did the Playstation Blog really fuck up this hard? Wow.
Storm Chamber
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*this year
cj_iwakura
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I'm glad they did. What better way to put a spotlight on SE's ignorance? SCEA should flat out say that they want to put it on Vita, but Square refused.
Basileus777
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Don't worry, I doubt Access Games is doing the port.
mack_a_tsar
Neo Member
Just when I thought the E3 festivities are mostly done, SE decided to kick things up.
#NoVitaMightStillBuyButStillSad
Or they chose a next gen so they can milk more money out of it.
Sony never released a 8.5 million report for the PSV.
If we're gonna make up numbers, then I'll just say PS4 is at 9 million.
I win.
PS.: For Vita to be at 8.5 million it would need to have sold nearly 4 million copies in Europe. jenniferlawrence-ok.gif.
As much as it pains me to say this, Farmassu is right. All 5 Vita fans were irrelevant to bringing this game to the West.
MikeE21286
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Hopefully it's better than what Capcom did with the MH PSP game (MH3?) that they ported to PS3
edit: also Fall 2015 for sure at earliest...obligatory lulz
edit: also Fall 2015 for sure at earliest...obligatory lulz
cj_iwakura
Member
See, I don't even mind that. I take offense at FORCING everyone to go next gen instead of easily having a cross-gen option.
PepsimanVsJoe
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lol wtf?
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
just learn japanese you guys
you get to learn a new language and play a good video game
There's an English patch tho.
The issue now is that PSP is dead, you have to jump through hoops to obtain a Japanese copy, and the lack of a purchase of the Western version dissuades Square from supporting this market.
There you have the tweets. Those look like facts don't they?
Thanks for the insight. Very much appreciated.
My main concern about a Vita version is if it even exists in some form. If it doesn't, then SQEX is not going to make it just for the west.
FFXII is very possible on Vita, at least in Japan (and then we can get it localized as well). Type-0 though is already playable on Vita as a PSP classic, so I don't know if there is enough incentive for SQEX to create a native Vita version, which is why I'm curious if it even exists in some form.
But do you think they will not release this in Japan? And if they do, do you think it will be a PS4 exclusive with its tiny install base so far knowing they could double their sales with a Vita release?
Completely unnecessary.
Which is a shame, since Vita is the only console so far where you can play ALL single player main Final Fantasy titles from FFI to FFX-2
You would be right, except for the fact that Type-0 was never released in the west, so SQEX is not bound by the rules that apply to re-releases.
And it is a quite extensive FF title for what I read/hear, so I don't see any problem in paying a full price for it.
Eerily familiar to the FFXIII on 360 thread.
not having any optimization doesn't mean it can't look good... it just won't run that well
yeah..PS3,360 or 3DS would be a better choice for that.
RadarScope1
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Pardon, but I'm just catching up. Have there been hints to this effect? I mean, how else would the PS Blog fuck up like this? How you make up a platform out of thin air like that? When you are a PR arm of the platform holder??!!
cj_iwakura
Member
There you have the tweets. Those look like facts don't they?
Sounds like they thought Square was doing a Vita version, since it would be common sense.
Kagari said Sony tried but Square refused.
jeffrockz312
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