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[Raonak]

After experiencing how good remote play is, im definitely gonna get one for my living room.

One thing I don't understand though.... When remote playing PS4 games, doesn't the lack of touchpad become a problem? vita gets around it by using the actual touchscreen, but with a dualshock3 you don't have anything to make up for it except the select button?

 

[jester_]

Curious if the NA version of this hardware will do any better than 720p/30fps when remote playing PS4 games. If I connect both via ethernet, I expect 1080p/60fps...

 

[UpUpDownDown]

After experiencing how good remote play is, im definitely gonna get one for my living room.

One thing I don't understand though.... When remote playing PS4 games, doesn't the lack of touchpad become a problem? vita gets around it by using the actual touchscreen, but with a dualshock3 you don't have anything to make up for it except the select button?

The video in my quote above shows a guy using a DS4

 

[ExitPlanetDust]

Why do I get the feeling that they are going to drop Vita cartridge support in the western version? I know the specs on the official site indicate a cartridge slot, but that can change...

They seemed pretty careful not to show the side of the box that contains the slot.

 

[Freeman]

This should support an external hard drive, it has the potential to be very competitive if they support it properly.

 

[Shizuka]

Will the PS TV work with third-party controllers made for the PS3, like the HORI Turbo Pad Controller?

 

[Infernal Monkey]

Why do I get the feeling that they are going to drop Vita cartridge support in the western version? I know the specs on the official site indicate a cartridge slot, but that can change...

They seemed pretty careful not to show the side of the box that contains the slot.

They'll probably keep it, but won't bother advertising the fact that it can play Vita cartridges at all. It'll just be considered a mystery port.

 

[OmahaG8]

They'll probably keep it, but won't bother advertising the fact that it can play Vita cartridges at all. It'll just be considered a mystery port.

So like the first Vita's top port. Heh.

 

[Phoenix_Cypher_K1]

Were there any problems with the japanese vita tv playing localized versions of compatible vita game cards?

The localized versions will need to be added to the compatible game list before the Vita TV will run them.

Danganronpa Trigger Happy Havoc for example, the Japanese and Chinese versions can run on any Vita TV but the English release will not...at least not until that one gets added to the compatible game list (which is probably soon given PSTV's release in the west)

 

[Agent X]

Why do I get the feeling that they are going to drop Vita cartridge support in the western version? I know the specs on the official site indicate a cartridge slot, but that can change...

They seemed pretty careful not to show the side of the box that contains the slot.

I don't think they'll drop the cartridge slot.

The question is: How will they market the ability of the PlayStation TV to play the compatible Vita games in a way that isn't confusing to the customer? I'm sure they'll post the compatibility list on the Web site, but some casual consumers aren't going to bother to check the site before buying game (especially if they've brought an anxious kid into the store).

For downloadable games, they can simply filter the listings by games that are confirmed to be compatible. Cartridge games, though, might be more challenging. I think future Vita games might have PlayStation TV compatibility marked on the box, but existing games might need to have a sticker applied to designate that a game is also compatible with PlayStation TV.

 

[Phoenix_Cypher_K1]

For downloadable games, they can simply filter the listings by games that are confirmed to be compatible. Cartridge games, though, might be more challenging. I think future Vita games might have PlayStation TV compatibility marked on the box, but existing games might need to have a sticker applied to designate that a game is also compatible with PlayStation TV.

They are already doing this for Asia/Japan releases (at the back of the box it will have it) so this should be pretty much confirmed.

 

[Hydrargyrus]

Can you use the DS4 to play Vita games or is it only available for remote play?


Is there a list of compatible Vita games?

 

[Trogdor1123]

For some reason I think that this will increase the push to hack it. I really dont know why.

 

[Trogdor1123]

Can you use the DS4 to play Vita games or is it only available for remote play?


Is there a list of compatible Vita games?

Thats a good question, it would be odd to require two different controllers.

 

[Zoe]

For some reason I think that this will increase the push to hack it. I really dont know why.

You can get the Japanese version for the exact same price. If the push isn't already there, it's probably not coming.

 

[fernoca]

Preordered the bundle through Amazon to remind myself I'm getting this!

 

[KingJolly]

So if this becomes a success in the US, could we see some more western vita games?

For a matter of fact, how much Vita Tv's have to be sold for it to be considered a Success?

 

[$h@d0w]

Why do I get the feeling that they are going to drop Vita cartridge support in the western version? I know the specs on the official site indicate a cartridge slot, but that can change...

They seemed pretty careful not to show the side of the box that contains the slot.

Hardware has been confirmed to be 100% the same (apart from the color) as the Japanese version according to Shu on Giant Bomb.

 

[Charles Alan Ratliff]

I have been waiting for this to play Persona 4: Golden on my TV.

Now to finish up Persona 3: FES before it's released!

 

[zeopower6]

I wouldn't worry about them taking out the card slot. Look at the tech specs on the US site:

・PlayStation®Vita card slot
・Memory card slot
・USB connector (USB 2.0 Type A)
・HDMI output port (HDMI-CEC)
・LAN port (10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX)

However, I am a bit worried that they COMPLETELY ignore that it is there in the marketing. The marketing is basically pushing it as a PS Now/PS4 remote.

http://www.playstation.com/en-us/explore/playstationtv

I guess I shouldn't be surprised, but damn, Vita only gets one mention on the whole page. I have a weird feeling that most buyers will be like "Woah, it plays Vita games too?" or the more likely "What the heck is this slot for?" when it releases. It feels a bit like how most (if not all?) PS3s can play just about any PSone disc but it's not really advertised?

 

[Joeki11a]

Sony needs to explain wtf this is

Layden was on stage babbling, this needed a demostration'
Let people know that,

1. You can remote play PS4 with this, 1 PS4 can serve as the HUB to as many TVs in your house with PS Tv devices connecfed on them.

2. This is a PS Vita for your TV

3. It plays PS1 classics, PSNOW(ps2,ps3 games)

 

[zeopower6]

Sony needs to explain wtf this is

Let people know that

1. You can remote play PS4 with this, 1 PS4 can serve as the HUB to as many TVs in your house.

2. This is a PS Vita for your TV

3. It plays PS1 classics, PSNOW(ps2,ps3 games)

Actually, the first and third things are covered in their promo material so far.

The Vita aspect however, is not, outside of a mention along with PSone/PS3/PSP/etc. titles. I have a feeling that people who sell this will be briefed to push it as a PS4 remote machine and a PS Now/PSN machine with a teeny tiny disclaimer (maybe) that it also

Spoiler

plays Vita games and has a Vita card slot.

 

[Joeki11a]

It needed an on stage demo or video of the PS4 remote play it would of sold millions right away.
Show that kids can play PS4 in their room TV, no need to go play in Dads gaming room. This could be huge in NA, a casual can see this in action and find it crazy.

 

[fernoca]

Wait...you can play PSP games too right?

I was contemplating buying a second Vita (or a PSP) to download "the PSP classics" I have, since my 32GB is full and to avoid switching cards.

But with this, now I can put the PSP games on the PTV and use it to play PSP games, some Vita and Remote Play.

Heck, could technically buy 2 (for the price of one Vita) and have one in the living room for Remote Play and the other one in the room for PSP games....hmmm...

 

[Joeki11a]

Yup thats the concept of it all. so simple looking with tons of value.

 

[Joeki11a]

Curious if the NA version of this hardware will do any better than 720p/30fps when remote playing PS4 games. If I connect both via ethernet, I expect 1080p/60fps...

It has "Automatic", 1080i,720p,480i

 

[boredandlazy]

I might actually buy one of these to play my PS1/PSP classics on the TV. The PS3 upscaler has terrible inherent input lag, so using this would be preferable.
Any word on an Australian release?

 

[zeopower6]

I might actually buy one of these to play my PS1/PSP classics on the TV. The PS3 upscaler has terrible inherent input lag, so using this would be preferable.
Any word on an Australian release?

http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2014/06/the-playstation-tv-is-coming-to-australia/

Looks like it's for sure. $149.95 though.

 

[plc268]

I wouldn't worry about them taking out the card slot. Look at the tech specs on the US site:



However, I am a bit worried that they COMPLETELY ignore that it is there in the marketing. The marketing is basically pushing it as a PS Now/PS4 remote.

http://www.playstation.com/en-us/explore/playstationtv

I guess I shouldn't be surprised, but damn, Vita only gets one mention on the whole page. I have a weird feeling that most buyers will be like "Woah, it plays Vita games too?" or the more likely "What the heck is this slot for?" when it releases. It feels a bit like how most (if not all?) PS3s can play just about any PSone disc but it's not really advertised?

Well, the problem with the device, is they can't really market it as a vita device. If you put the vita functionality first and foremost in your marketing, people are going to expect it plays all vita games. Even so, there's going to be a lot of people who are gonna buy this, and be angry that it doesn't play a certain game.

That said, I'm still confused by the 720p/1080i output. Why? The vita has a 960x544 screen. Pixel double it, and you've pretty much got 1080p. It just seems like the obvious choice instead of 720p/1080i.

 

[lord pie]

Curious if the NA version of this hardware will do any better than 720p/30fps when remote playing PS4 games. If I connect both via ethernet, I expect 1080p/60fps...

Remote play quality won't be down to network performance or vita hardware (to an extent), it'll be down to how many system resources were reserved on the ps4. Things like CPU/gpu/hdd/memory utilization. Encoding a video stream in real time and broadcasting it with minimal latency most certainly isn't going to be cheap...

 

[aspiegamer]

Sony with some sneaky reverse psychology. They're actually trolling every single person who buys one.

Vita sells fairly well in Japan, Vita TV does nothing.
Vita sells a number that can statistically be rounded down to zero in NA, so, screw it, put this out there and see what happens!

I said last fall I'd buy one of these at $99 if brought over so I'm totally on this. A gigantic variety of stuff being ported over on the Vita and actually pretty good way to sell PS4 remote play. No matter how hard Sony tries (or not... hopefully not) I still just can't see this thing catching on outside Japan either, sadly. It's actually the sort of thing that might do better in several years when the PS4 install base is larger and if PS Now takes off.

 

[Callibretto]

That article is old.

Man, I really want that ds4 compatibility for ps vita, not vita tv.

 

[Brad Grenz]

Actually, the first and third things are covered in their promo material so far.

The Vita aspect however, is not, outside of a mention along with PSone/PS3/PSP/etc. titles. I have a feeling that people who sell this will be briefed to push it as a PS4 remote machine and a PS Now/PSN machine with a teeny tiny disclaimer (maybe) that it also

Spoiler

plays Vita games and has a Vita card slot.

The obvious way to market it is as a streaming box that lets you play PS4 games on a second TV, use the PlayStation Now service, access the IPTV service Sony is working on and download any of thousands of compatible games across multiple generations of hardware. To mainstream consumers they aren't likely to care which system's games specifically are compatible. They'll just go to the PlayStation Store and browse what it shows as available. Should make for a great indie games box, a great retro box, a great streaming box and a great PS4 companion. The Vita name barely has a footprint so trying to go into, "well, you know some games for Vita will work, others won't some are getting patched and future games are being clearly labeled" will just confuse people compared to saying "hundreds of games across 6 different PlayStation platforms available to stream or download!".

 

[charlequin]

Why do I get the feeling that they are going to drop Vita cartridge support in the western version?

I dunno, because you've trained yourself to engage in completely illogical cynicism, I guess?

Why would they do that? What would lead Sony to spend the money to redesign the system solely to remove functionality that costs them nothing and has no downside to the consumer?

The question is: How will they market the ability of the PlayStation TV to play the compatible Vita games in a way that isn't confusing to the customer?

In practice approximately no one will play physical games on this who doesn't own a Vita already.

 

[xDUMPWEEDx]

I'm surprised this is actually getting localized, considering the limited success it saw in Japan.

Day 1 for me though.

 

[baphomet]

Why do I get the feeling that they are going to drop Vita cartridge support in the western version? I know the specs on the official site indicate a cartridge slot, but that can change...

They seemed pretty careful not to show the side of the box that contains the slot.

So you actually expect them to drop the main way of playing games on the console before release?

 

[zeopower6]

Well, the problem with the device, is they can't really market it as a vita device. If you put the vita functionality first and foremost in your marketing, people are going to expect it plays all vita games. Even so, there's going to be a lot of people who are gonna buy this, and be angry that it doesn't play a certain game.

I never expected that it would be first and foremost especially given that the "Vita" was removed from the name, but they could at least mention that it has the card slot outside of the technical specifications section, you know? It's just a bit of a mystery slot at the moment given the way it's being presented.

 

[Number45]

However, I am a bit worried that they COMPLETELY ignore that it is there in the marketing. The marketing is basically pushing it as a PS Now/PS4 remote.

That's pretty much how they positioned the Vita in the conference, as far as I could tell.

 

[Matt]

I'm surprised this is actually getting localized, considering the limited success it saw in Japan.

Well Sony has always had a very clear policy of throwing good money after bad.

 

[jwk94]

I had the chance to talk to Warner Brothers today as they were demoing Lego Ninjago on the PlayStation TV. They didn't know about it until after the announcement and Sony just casually was like "oh yeah, you'll be showing this on the PS TV, not a Vita."

From what they told me, it worked flawlessly. What really surprised me was when the game's programmer paused the game and used the DualShock 4's touchpad as if it were the PS Vita's front touchscreen. I asked him about this and he said that's going to be a feature that will be supported in the game and not something the devs just put in for the E3 demo. This makes me wonder if more games could do this.

 

[dock]

It's a shame this is still hamstrung by their ridiculous memory card prices.

 

[boredandlazy]

I bought a 64GB card recently and I was just about to put my 32GB up on eBay, I'm glad Sony reminded me this thing existed.
$150AUS is a bit steep though... These are region free I assume?

 

[kiguel182]

For those with a Vita: How does remote play with direct connection work across divisions?

My PS4 is connected to the internet via the ethernet cable so I can't remote play using my router.

 

[Widge]

SO. Is this thing going to be account/region locked too? I have a whole bunch of PSone games I don't play on my Vita as I don't want to go through the faff of resetting and going to my US account.

 

[Number45]

I bought a 64GB card recently and I was just about to put my 32GB up on eBay, I'm glad Sony reminded me this thing existed.

This is a good idea. Are they ever going to release the 64GB in Europe?

SO. Is this thing going to be account/region locked too? I have a whole bunch of PSone games I don't play on my Vita as I don't want to go through the faff of resetting and going to my US account.

If you mean does it support multiple accounts at once, I don't believe so.

 

[ExitPlanetDust]

I dunno, because you've trained yourself to engage in completely illogical cynicism, I guess?

Why would they do that? What would lead Sony to spend the money to redesign the system solely to remove functionality that costs them nothing and has no downside to the consumer?

I would think that cutting out the cartridge slot would save money. The only redesign would be not soldering in the cartridge slot on the assembly line and leaving the cartridge flap out of the molding.

But apparently:

Hardware has been confirmed to be 100% the same (apart from the color) as the Japanese version according to Shu on Giant Bomb.

And yes, I was a bit cynical. My post was made shortly after a double shift on 2 hours of sleep.

 

[impetuous_silly]

Wait...you can play PSP games too right?

I was contemplating buying a second Vita (or a PSP) to download "the PSP classics" I have, since my 32GB is full and to avoid switching cards.

But with this, now I can put the PSP games on the PTV and use it to play PSP games, some Vita and Remote Play.

Heck, could technically buy 2 (for the price of one Vita) and have one in the living room for Remote Play and the other one in the room for PSP games....hmmm...

How many devices are you allowed to have paired to your PSN account?

 

[flipswitch]

For those with a Vita: How does remote play with direct connection work across divisions?

My PS4 is connected to the internet via the ethernet cable so I can't remote play using my router.

Have you tried the "connect directly through playstation vita system" in remote play connection settings?

 

[boredandlazy]

This is a good idea. Are they ever going to release the 64GB in Europe?

Don't know. I bought mine off of eBay.

 

[OgaKratos]

I can see the appeal for this. However I'll get a vita first. Perhaps this may be an acquisition down the line. I've suddenly been hit by a sudden urge to own the vita. Ps plus might have something to do with that.