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Phil Spencer says he doesn't care about console wars

They don´t , they care about sales figures and profit

Precisely. Wanting your preferred company to succeed is the same fucking thing except you have money at stake as opposed to your brand loyalty. Can't believe this needs to be explained here. I assure you people who have skin in the game in the financial markets care about which companies are leading this industry.
 
Bill Gates does.
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The console they are chasing shares 99% of the games, consolewaring over first party titles is splitting hairs, and features never ever really mattered significantly so yeah.
 
Right, they don't care if the companies they are invested in do better than the competition. /sarcasm

What fantasy world are you guys living in?

12 year olds care about the console wars out of brand loyalty. Investors care because they want their investments to grow. What the fuck GAF.

Do better how? Sony sold more consoles last gen than Microsoft. Guess which stockholders were happier?
 
The stockholders care

The stockholders only care if his not being a fanboy directly impacted profits in a negative fashion. If showing up in a banana hammock would increase profits, then I imagine they would care about that.
 
Right, they don't care if the companies they are invested in do better than the competition. /sarcasm

What fantasy world are you guys living in?

12 year olds care about the console wars out of brand loyalty. Investors care because they want their investments to grow. What the fuck GAF.
Um... What fantasy world do you live in where the number of consoles sold equals stock value?
 
Did I miss something? I watched the entire video and he doesn't actually say that. He actually says, "we're in this to win."
 
Um... What fantasy world do you live in where the number of consoles sold equals stock value?

Sony Corp (ADR)
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Microsoft Corporation
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Nintendo Co., Ltd
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Clearly!
 
I always had the feeling that Sega and Sony have been the most invested in consolewar-PR. Microsoft seems pretty chill in that regard.
 
What does that make GAF then?

There are a lot of members that don't participate in mud slinging. I always assumed the ones that do it are children and handicapped adults.

I'd be pretty embarrassed to be a part of the community if I learned grown men were talking shit to each other about video games.
 
Do better how? Sony sold more consoles last gen than Microsoft. Guess which stockholders were happier?




You think Phil Spencer is happy Sony ultimately outsold Xbox last gen or this gen for that matter?

Spencer saying he doesn't care about the console wars is a load of shit especially since his compensation, bonuses and job is tied to how well the xbox division performs. Get real GAF

Um... What fantasy world do you live in where the number of consoles sold equals stock value?

It doesn't. Strawman much?
 
I always had the feeling that Sega and Sony have been the most invested in consolewar-PR. Microsoft seems pretty chill in that regard.

Never read any Aaron Greenburg PR tweets have ya? =)

You think Phil Spencer is happy Sony ultimately outsold Xbox last gen or this gen for that matter?

Spencer saying he doesn't care about the console wars is a load of shit especially since his compensation, bonuses and job is tied to how well the xbox division performs. Get real GAF

I don't think he cares. MS put a strong effort into winning two big regions of the world, and in doing so they made a tidy sum. Sony attempted to compete everywhere and they lost billions. Yes, I think Phil was happy. I think Phil is upset now that in those regions he used to own he's now in a distant second place.
 
I was a little taken back when he said "Sony" and "Nintendo" on-stage, it almost felt taboo.

Me too. Companies NEVER, not, RARELY mention competitors explicitly like that. That was a gesture of humility by actually referring to Sony and Nintendo by name. It shows that MS understands that the competition is real and that they don't exist in a vacuum. It shows they know they need to pay attention to whats going on around them. And in a way, it kind of also shows this attitude of, "we're in this together" and that all three platform holders can truly learn from one another to make themselves better in the end.

MS overall had really good and consistent messaging this year
 
I can't tell if praising the competitors is shtick or not, but it was a welcome change from the "GOTCHA!" stuff of late.

I imagine PR managers realize this, so it's likely not all genuine, but we can hope.
 
I like Phil. And when you've got guys like that Yusuf bloke flapping his gums about how he was right all along just makes you appreciate him that little bit more.

There are a lot of members that don't participate in mud slinging. I always assumed the ones that do it are children and handicapped adults.

That's a bit OTT, isn't it?
 
Right, they don't care if the companies they are invested in do better than the competition. /sarcasm

What fantasy world are you guys living in?

12 year olds care about the console wars out of brand loyalty. Investors care because they want their investments to grow. What the fuck GAF.

Do better how? Sony sold more consoles last gen than Microsoft. Guess which stockholders were happier?


You guys might want to check which one of those companies actually makes a profit.
 
I like Phil. And when you've got guys like that Yusuf bloke flapping his gums about how he was right all along just makes you appreciate him that little bit more.

Phil said the same things Yusuf has said before though. It's not as though he just came in out of nowhere to lead MS. He's been there for a lot of the bad decisions.
 
You think Phil Spencer is happy Sony ultimately outsold Xbox last gen or this gen for that matter?

Spencer saying he doesn't care about the console wars is a load of shit especially since his compensation, bonuses and job is tied to how well the xbox division performs. Get real GAF

I think some people realize that you can be successful while still not being #1 in NPD's. There is clearly room in the market for more than one console (thank God).

I think there is a difference between caring about "the console wars" and caring about "His job".
 
You think Phil Spencer is happy Sony ultimately outsold Xbox last gen or this gen for that matter?

Spencer saying he doesn't care about the console wars is a load of shit especially since his compensation, bonuses and job is tied to how well the xbox division performs. Get real GAF

The Xbox Division can perform AMAZINGLY and still be outsold by Playstation, doesn't mean he'd be fired.
Look at Iwata...I kid
 
Right, they don't care if the companies they are invested in do better than the competition. /sarcasm

What fantasy world are you guys living in?

12 year olds care about the console wars out of brand loyalty. Investors care because they want their investments to grow. What the fuck GAF.

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And so shouldn't many others ...

At the Media briefing he even mentioned Sony and Nintendo. Haven't seen that for years.

Yea I agree, I really liked that he talked about Sony and Nintendo with respect at the start of the conference. Phil is a really likeable imo.

I also don't give a rats ass about the console wars. Just that it is bloody annoying seeing people talk negatively about things they obviously haven't even tried.

Agreed.

Did Sony make a comment on Xbox on their conference? I can't really remember.

They made some remarks that could be picked up as such yes. Mostly things like; every game is better looking on our console I think.
 
I think there is a difference between caring about "the console wars" and caring about "His job".

Caring about xbox division and caring about his job are mutually inclusive. He can pretend this shit doesn't matter to him but at the end of the day if xbox performs poorly they will replace his ass. GAF seems to be delusional about this fact based on the replies to me in this thread.
 
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