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[BassForever]

I must have missed the boat on this, but why does Takamaru's name keep coming up? Did Sakurai say something to imply he would be/could be in?

Funky Kong confirmed? With the same absurd voice actor he had in MKWii?

Nothing Sakurai has said is why people are speculating Takamaru, but the fact that since Brawl he has

1- Been referenced in Captain Rainbow along with Little Mac as characters forgotten by Nintendo

2- Had his own playable mode in Samurai Warriors 3 on the Wii

3- Had a mini game based upon his series in Nintendo Land

4- We've seen numerous reports that Takamaru's game is being brought over (Mysterious Castle Masamune) to US/PAL

A lot of us are speculating him being in Smash Bros 4 could be part of an attempt to revive the series the way Pit in Brawl lead to the return of Kid Icarus as a franchise.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

Makes me wonder if perhaps the Pokemon Company also informed him of ORAS ahead of time and we have a "Pokemon from ORAS" slot open.

Greninja is the only Pokemon new comer. This was confirmed at the round table.

 

[Beelzebufo]

You're so fixated with this new info about the original working name you're not reading what is being said. You're saying they could not give the name for a Pokémon that had no name, but with that logic neither could anyone else so of course no one predicted Greninja much like the leaker. People however did guess a Pokémon from X and Y may make the cut so it was a prediction people made. Thus once again it can still be classed under the lucky guess label if people so wish.

Wii Fit Trainer is still the most out of the hat prediction which is why the first leak is the most credible.

The thing is though, everything else about the list has been right, including Greninja. The only complaint you could make is that it's strange that he said "Pokemon from XY" instead of Greninja, but now it makes perfect sense, because that's what the character was called. It's not an isolated incident. Now that we have proof of RH characters being in, and had confirmation that the leaker knew about "Mii Fighter", its nothing less than denial to not expect the remaining characters.

But I also have a friend who was with me who was very into the series explain that there presence was not strong enough to him to qualify them as playable and he was extremely knowledgable if the series. It really doesn't matter if anyone from the series can do what they can. Especially if he has the resorting to refrencing minigames from some of the other characters.

I guess its mainly opinionated, but as far as I can tell from reactions, it wasn't a good idea.

Nobody cares what your friend thinks though. And what do you mean anyone from the series can do what they can? They're presumably a three-in one set of characters that attack through song, and they're also a significant reoccuring character, of which RH has very few.

 

[Watch Da Birdie]

Takamaru seems kinda redundant in a roster with Greninja and Shiek.

(Yeah I know he's a samurai and not a ninja but between the two of them they cover most of his abilities)

I think him being a samurai is more of an issue since we have plenty of sword characters (Link, Toon Link, Marth, Ike, Chrom, Shulk, Meta Knight, Sword Mii Fighter)

But of course in his own game he had a lot of ninja moves, like the invisibility cloak, shurikens, thunder scroll.

Greninja is the only Pokemon new comer. This was confirmed at the round table.

When? I don't think Sakurai would mention if there was a new Pokemon or not, he just said they had a Pokemon Slot open for X/Y. That doesn't necessarily rule out another slot.

 

[Azure J]

Takamaru seems kinda redundant in a roster with Greninja and Shiek.

(Yeah I know he's a samurai and not a ninja but between the two of them they cover most of his abilities)

Nope. We still don't have a lithe swordsman based entirely around sharp draws with big knock back and I won't rest until I gets one.

 

[CaptainSchwann]

Not gonna lie, as a big fan of DK64 and heavy characters, K.Rool would get me really hyped.

 

[Village]

Nope. We still don't have a lithe swordsman based entirely around sharp draws with big knock back and I won't rest until I gets one.

Ask capcom to put marvel 3 vergil in as is.

 

[Spinluck]

I don't believe the Chunky thing one bit. Haven't seen him in allllll of the videos nor has anyone else reported seeing him. Sakurai please don't ignore the new Dankey Kings. I want Grassland Grove music. I was sour on Dixie Kong, but after playing Tropical Freeze, I wouldn't mind seeing her make some kind of appearance at all!

I guess by that logic it makes sense to cut any character that share specials. Luigi, Falco, Tink.

I mean Lucas has no reason to be cut because of the way he represents Mother. You wouldn't cut Falco just because you can give his B move properties to Fox. You keep him because he's important to Starfox, and Smash fans.

Hey I'm with you, I've grown to love all the Smash characters and wasn't them all back. Unfortunately we know that won't be the case for a select few. I think Ganondorf will be the most changed out of the bunch, following Falco, and maybe Lucas.

 

[DaBoss]

I hope there is no more shit-slinging and generalizations.
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So this is just something I thought of regarding Sal Romano's source.

Sal Romano's source has info that is old. As in source had this info from the early stages of development (before E3 last year). They may have been planning to reveal 6 newcomers at E3 last year, but the plans have changed and it definitely couldn't have been extremely close to E3. This would explain Pokémon from X/Y. When Sal Romano posted the article, the source would have known Greninja's by that time. There was also Animal Crossing Guy which was also vague. The source did not mention alts at all either. It would explain the accuracy and inaccuracy of things. But then there is the issue of Mii Fighter being an accurate name.

I'm not saying the leaks are fake here, saying that the source obtained the info a long time ago.

 

[Watch Da Birdie]

Makes me wonder if Rosalina was actually decided upon later in development due to her growing popularity.

 

[Neoxon]

I think him being a samurai is more of an issue since we have plenty of sword characters (Link, Toon Link, Marth, Ike, Chrom, Shulk, Meta Knight, Sword Mii Fighter)

But of course in his own game he had a lot of ninja moves, like the invisibility cloak, shurikens, thunder scroll.


When? I don't think Sakurai would mention if there was a new Pokemon or not, he just said they had a Pokemon Slot open for X/Y. That doesn't necessarily rule out another slot.

And that slot was taken up by Greninja. And if my memory is correct, he also explicitly said no more Pokémon newcomers in another question.

 

[georly]

Would glitches be fine to mention?

If so here's two:

Instance of Kirby's Final Smash glitching on the final hit leaving victim trapped in mid-air unable to move and constantly spinning.

Right at the start of a sudden death match Samus falls through the solid floor and is KO'd

I was on spirit tracks level and DK grabbed little mac. After which, little mac just kept floating up and off the stage until he KOd.

 

[Berordn]

Nope. We still don't have a lithe swordsman based entirely around sharp draws with big knock back and I won't rest until I gets one.

Sure we do!

 

[GiantBreadbug]

Hey I'm with you, I've grown to love all the Smash characters and wasn't them all back. Unfortunately we know that won't be the case for a select few. I think Ganondorf will be the most changed out of the bunch, following Falco, and maybe Lucas.

I'm just hoping the only cut characters are PT's other two Pokemon and Snake. And I really don't want those cut, they're just the ones I'm worried the most about. Hopefully the veterans you listed aren't cut, and have some good changes made to them. I have hope seeing how Sakurai has handled other vets.

 

[BGBW]

I'm not saying the leaks are fake here, saying that the source obtained the info a long time ago.

No, you are doing the smart thing and being pessimistic. But apparently not believing them 100% means you're in denial.

 

[Beelzebufo]

I hope there is no more shit-slinging and generalizations.
----------------------------

So this is just something I thought of regarding Sal Romano's source.

Sal Romano's source has info that is old. As in source had this info from the early stages of development (before E3 last year). They may have been planning to reveal 6 newcomers at E3 last year, but the plans have changed and it definitely couldn't have been extremely close to E3. This would explain Pokémon from X/Y. When Sal Romano posted the article, the source would have known Greninja's by that time. There was also Animal Crossing Guy which was also vague. The source did not mention alts at all either. It would explain the accuracy and inaccuracy of things. But then there is the issue of Mii Fighter being an accurate name.

I'm not saying the leaks are fake here, saying that the source obtained the info a long time ago.

Yeah, that fits in line with the idea that they're still deciding if Lucas will be included or not, it seems a little late to make a decision like that at this point. I would also assume that Mii Fighter was decided relatively early, he just didn't really care about getting the names perfect at first (animal crossing guy).

No, you are doing the smart thing and being pessimistic. But apparently not believing them 100% means you're in denial.

There was nothing pessimistic about his post, he's saying the same thing I was. You however, are in denial if your posts have been serious.

 

[Azure J]

Sure we do!

STOP. IT.

Ask capcom to put marvel 3 vergil in as is.

That dude is the clunkiest sword draw character ever. No please.

 

[Hyperactivity]

I hope there is no more shit-slinging and generalizations.
----------------------------

So this is just something I thought of regarding Sal Romano's source.

Sal Romano's source has info that is old. As in source had this info from the early stages of development (before E3 last year). They may have been planning to reveal 6 newcomers at E3 last year, but the plans have changed and it definitely couldn't have been extremely close to E3. This would explain Pokémon from X/Y. When Sal Romano posted the article, the source would have known Greninja's by that time. There was also Animal Crossing Guy which was also vague. The source did not mention alts at all either. It would explain the accuracy and inaccuracy of things. But then there is the issue of Mii Fighter being an accurate name.

I'm not saying the leaks are fake here, saying that the source obtained the info a long time ago.

Perfect
Isaac and Takamaru might still be in, and Shulk is in

 

[Ryce]

Makes me wonder if Rosalina was actually decided upon later in development due to her growing popularity.

In the panel, Sakurai said the entire roster was decided years ago at the start of development (just like Brawl). Lots of characters weren't in Sal's first leak -- Rosalina is no different than Shulk, Chrom, Palutena, or the others.

 

[Watch Da Birdie]

Would glitches be fine to mention?

If so here's two:

Instance of Kirby's Final Smash glitching on the final hit leaving victim trapped in mid-air unable to move and constantly spinning.

Right at the start of a sudden death match Samus falls through the solid floor and is KO'd

It seems there's a lot of issues with the transformation stages still, during the Tournament Mushroom Kingdom U seemed really akward whenever it transformed, as did footage of the Reset Bomb Forest.

Also during the Tournament, I recall Moltres being summoned in one match and just flew off without doing anything. Even the commentators noticed it.

Perfect
Isaac and Takamaru might still be in, and Shulk is in

No one's seen Isaac as an AT yet I saw on that Smashboard thread. Although he was unlockable in Brawl so maybe he is here as well.

 

[Karsticles]

Nope. We still don't have a lithe swordsman based entirely around sharp draws with big knock back and I won't rest until I gets one.

Have you thought about posting the suggested change list we made in FGW? Once we finalize a list for Sakurai, we should give it its own thread.

Maybe we should also request an adjustable "speed" setting for the gameplay. That would be fun for casuals and would make the competitive community happy.

 

[R0ckman]

The thing is though, everything else about the list has been right, including Greninja. The only complaint you could make is that it's strange that he said "Pokemon from XY" instead of Greninja, but now it makes perfect sense, because that's what the character was called. It's not an isolated incident. Now that we have proof of RH characters being in, and had confirmation that the leaker knew about "Mii Fighter", its nothing less than denial to not expect the remaining characters.


Nobody cares what your friend thinks though. And what do you mean anyone from the series can do what they can? They're presumably a three-in one set of characters that attack through song, and they're also a significant reoccuring character, of which RH has very few.

Yet, you are arguing that the presence of them in the game is important and that a bigger fan of the series can easily see that. I'm giving you a situation where someone who meets that criteria doesn't agree with you and even suggested better reacurring characters for which he said there were several. And "no one cares what A thinks" isn't a good argument, like at all.

I haven't seen the character, but I'm more inclined to believe he is going to have them reference the minigames they don't appear in, in which means any character from the series can do what they do. Game and Watch wasn't in DK junior, he has a move called DK Junior.

 

[Berordn]

Also during the Tournament, I recall Moltres being summoned in one match and just flew off without doing anything. Even the commentators noticed it.

Moltres didn't actually do anything in Brawl unless an opponent of whoever threw it came into contact with it. Probably the same thing here, but I don't remember how it went down in the invitational.

 

[Beelzebufo]

In the panel, Sakurai said the entire roster was decided years ago at the start of development (just like Brawl). Lots of characters weren't in Sal's first leak -- Rosalina is no different than Shulk, Chrom, Palutena, or the others.

Exactly. Sal's leaker likely got his info a while ago, but all of those characters were locks to be playable. One character who wasn't was Lucas, who I guess is up in the air now. Unless there was a huge delay that we didn't know about to add in a last minute character, that's probably our final roster.

Basically, realizing that the info is probably old only tells us two new things:
1. We have no idea if Lucas is in or not
2. "Pokemon from XY" is a legitimate character name

Yet, you are arguing that the presence of them in the game is important and that a bigger fan of the series can easily see that. I'm giving you a situation where someone who meets that criteria doesn't agree with you and even suggested better reacurring characters for which he said there were several. And "no one cares what A thinks" isn't a good argument, like at all.

I haven't seen the character, but I'm more inclined to believe he is going to have them reference the minigames they don't appear in, in which means any character from the series can do what they do. Game and Watch wasn't in DK junior, he has a move called DK Junior.

"My friend said this" isn't a good argument. Your friend is an exception, most people are aware of the Chorus Men. And like I said, out of the recurring characters available, the Chorus Men:
1. Are the sole characters appearing on the best selling game in the series (and appeared in all promotional materials)
2. Are musicians
3. Appear in games outside of the Rhythm Heaven series

There's not another character that can do that.

 

[Watch Da Birdie]

I must have missed the boat on this, but why does Takamaru's name keep coming up? Did Sakurai say something to imply he would be/could be in?

Well, and I haven't seen this sourced, but I've seen claims Sakurai mentioned in an early interview that he'd probably be "re-inventing" a classic character like he did with Pit. Some think this might be Takamaru.

Takamaru was requested to be in Brawl quite often, but didn't even appear as an Assist Trophy, just as a Sticker. A lot of people were hoping to see him in Smash 4.

Since Brawl, Takamaru has had a bit of a resurgence---in Captain Rainbow, in Samurai Warriors 3 (some think he'll pop up in Hyrule Warriors too since it's by the same company and him and Link were "born" the same year), and, the biggest one, his own game in Nintendo World which is the first time he's really been recognized in a 1st-party Nintendo game overseas. And now we have his game finally coming to Europe soon, and presumably America.

Some people even joke that he's the one who keeps cutting the Smash Logo into the screen at the beginning of each Character Trailer.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

Hey I'm with you, I've grown to love all the Smash characters and wasn't them all back. Unfortunately we know that won't be the case for a select few. I think Ganondorf will be the most changed out of the bunch, following Falco, and maybe Lucas.

Roy still stings

A clone that was more popular in Smash than his own series, but I'd love for him back. He was a unique design, even if his moves were Marth's.

I wouldn't even mind Doc or Pichu back, even if they were kind of entirely pointless in Melee. I think they could have a lot of fun with Pichu's moves, but I think Doc and Pichu (and probably Roy's) time has passed.

Mewtwo still has a chance though.

But it is sad to see characters cut. My brother loved Ivysaur and he's really disappointed he probably won't be in the next Smash.

 

[Watch Da Birdie]

Yet, you are arguing that the presence of them in the game is important and that a bigger fan of the series can easily see that. I'm giving you a situation where someone who meets that criteria doesn't agree with you and even suggested better reacurring characters for which he said there were several. And "no one cares what A thinks" isn't a good argument, like at all.
.

I think the issue is you're being anecdotal.

I mean, you said you showed a picture to people at the demo, including "casuals" and "girls", but we weren't there so we can't really judge the reactions, we just have to take your word for it that everyone was disappointed. And then we just have you saying a friend who knows Rhythm Heaven was disappointed as well.

It's just not really a good basis to go on when deciding Chorus Men is an undeserving character that people will be disappointed in. I imagine attitudes will change, for better or worse, when we actually see what he can do.

 

[Dr.Hadji]

Again, that is just one example of a movement option. Another example that wouldn't hurt casual players is one that exists in all platformers: momentum being carried from your run into your jump.

No it isn't. It actually isn't in a lot of popular platformers. It isn't in Mega Man. And most importantly it isn't in Kirby games. You know the game the Sakurai just so happened to create.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

Chorus Men being three characters and being heavily implied to be in makes "Ice Climbers must be cut because 3DS!" kind of not an issue any more.

 

[Revven]

Here i'm not sure. How good does momentum work with Project M Online-Mode (does it still have one?)? I could see the team behind Brawl changing it, because it makes it harder to create a stable Online-Mode. With fixed momentum you don't need to send too much information to the other console. The game can guess, which direction the character will move and only needs to check for small corrections. With non-fixed momentum there coming a lot of variables and possibilities in the mix, which could slow down the connection.
It is the main reason, Nintendo doesn't want to including an Online-Mode for there platformers, since it would need to change the known physics of there games. Shooters, Racing-games and other genres go around those problem with the already mention guesswork.

Jumps retaining momentum is 100% fine in online for PM. I very seriously doubt they cut that out in Brawl because of online. I don't know how it works but that isn't a concern they should have at all. Smash hugely relies on tons of calculations for knockback and other physics-variables as it is. Momentum being retained during jumps would be such a small task to keep track of compared to everything else that the game has going on already.

There is a difference between making vocalized constructive criticism or bringing up concerns, of which your post is, and what the majority of competitive players are saying on various forums of the internet right now. Those people are whiners and they can whine all they want, I don't care about them.

Calling them 'whiners' doesn't make you look any better. You can keep that comment to yourself is all I'm saying. All you're doing is encouraging the idiocy.

 

[Watch Da Birdie]

Chorus Men being three characters and being heavily implied to be in makes "Ice Climbers must be cut because 3DS!" kind of not an issue any more.

Perhaps. Chorus Men are pretty simplistic looking, perhaps they wouldn't be as difficult as the Ice Climbers who are more detailed with the fur and such.

 

[georly]

Well, and I haven't seen this sourced, but I've seen claims Sakurai mentioned in an early interview that he'd probably be "re-inventing" a classic character like he did with Pit. Some think this might be Takamaru.

Now I think those comments might be referring to pac-man. What's the source on that?

 

[DaBoss]

My post does not indicate I think the leaks are 100% real, nor does it say I think they are 100% fake either. Just proceeding with caution and thinking of a reason why there is some inconsistency when Sal Romano posted the leaks. For all we know there could be a change of plans and they dropped one of the characters they were going to introduce.

My post is viewed as optimistic for another reason which Hyperactivity did.

In the panel, Sakurai said the entire roster was decided years ago at the start of development (just like Brawl). Lots of characters weren't in Sal's first leak -- Rosalina is no different than Shulk, Chrom, Palutena, or the others.

It does not indicate the source had the finalized list of characters.

Why didn't the source say more? Why did the source only just mention DLC and Lucas/Ness debacle? Why not specify the Mii Fighters are 3 different characters? There are so many things we can ask that questions when this info was obtained and if it is the only info.

Calling them 'whiners' doesn't make you look any better. You can keep that comment to yourself is all I'm saying. All you're doing is encouraging the idiocy.

Thank you. If people are whining, ignore them.

 

[Beelzebufo]

Chorus Men being three characters and being heavily implied to be in makes "Ice Climbers must be cut because 3DS!" kind of not an issue any more.

I don't think ICs are cut, but I don't agree with this. There's no reason to assume that the Chorus Men would act independently of one another like R&L or ICs.

It does not indicate the source had the finalized list of characters.

It kind of does, the most recent leak suggests that the remaining newcomers are the only remaining ones.

 

[Watch Da Birdie]

Now I think those comments might be referring to pac-man. What's the source on that?

I can't find it either, but I've seen it brought up many times---like one of Rockman's posts mentioned Sakurai talking about "reviving a classic" as well.

I guess it could be Pac-Man, in fact this was even before Mega Man was revealed, I think it was posted quite awhile back, so it could even be him.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

Perhaps. Chorus Men are pretty simplistic looking, perhaps they wouldn't be as difficult as the Ice Climbers who are more detailed with the fur and such.

They managed to give DK fur, and he has way more fur than probably both the ICs combined.

They also have very simple animations and simple models. They're small characters, they'll be fine on the 3DS.

 

[Azure J]

Have you thought about posting the suggested change list we made in FGW? Once we finalize a list for Sakurai, we should give it its own thread.

Maybe we should also request an adjustable "speed" setting for the gameplay. That would be fun for casuals and would make the competitive community happy.

I think that list is good enough honestly. The game has a solid speed already, it just needs these little tweaks and all sides will be content.

As for the visibility, I honestly don't know the right venue for the list to be posted since I'm clearly not in contact with any Nintendo reps and don't know how they're handling feedback. That said, I'll probably make a note of it in the FGW thread and see what happens.

 

[R0ckman]

Actually now that I think about it, Rhthym Monkey would have been cool. I loved that guy and he appeared in a shit ton of the games and would have a great selection of alts to choose from like the shades ones on the clock. I think there was a hat of him in the Mii Plaza as well. I think people overall would have appreciated him more honestly.

 

[Beelzebufo]

They managed to give DK fur, and he has way more fur than probably both the ICs combined.

They also have very simple animations and simple models. They're small characters, they'll be fine on the 3DS.

It's not about the graphical capabilities, the problem arises in Nana having her own AI. So it's not necessarily comparable to Chorus Men.

Actually now that I think about it, Rhthym Monkey would have been cool. I loved that guy and he appeared in a shit ton of the games and would have a great selection of alts to choose from like the shades ones on the clock. I think there was a hat of him in the Mii Plaza as well. I think people overall would have appreciated him more honestly.

While this would be good as well, the monkeys are too generic for my tastes, its like adding Toad.

 

[IntelliHeath]

http://smashboards.com/threads/k-ro...r-at-any-second.324259/page-241#post-16886665

Chunky Kong is an AT and Cranky is a regular trophy.

I would like to see pictures or movie first, or at least more than three people verifying that. I found it odd that only one pointed it out.

Would glitches be fine to mention?

If so here's two:

Instance of Kirby's Final Smash glitching on the final hit leaving victim trapped in mid-air unable to move and constantly spinning.

Right at the start of a sudden death match Samus falls through the solid floor and is KO'd

Feel free to put it in the list yourself.

 

[TheSlySoul]

Yeah, I got a feeling Ganondorf is going to be changed since his moveset was a copy.
After making a list of franchise per characters that I think will be in, it is close to what Brawl had. The biggest change is the Misc. section. There are many characters just from one franchise.

My prediction is we will get one reveal per month until October. July will be Ice Climbers, August will be Captain Falcon (not unlockable anymore), and September will be Ganondorf (also not unlockable). The remaining (at most 10 IMO) will be unlockables including Game & Watch. 4 of the 33 revealed will also be unlockables (Pacman, Sonic, Luigi, and Greninja is my guess).

 

[balladofwindfishes]

It's not about the graphical capabilities, the problem arises in Nana having her own AI. So it's not necessarily comparable to Chorus Men.

It can't be much different than Luma. Nana mirrors everything Popo does, and if separated, does whatever she can to return to him, unless he issues a command, which she then tries to duplicate.

I don't see it being a show stopper. If the 3DS version can handle 4 CPU only fights with much more complex AI required, it can probably easily handle 4 IC fights.

 

[Green Mamba]

Yeah, I got a feeling Ganondorf is going to be changed since his moveset was a copy.
After making a list of franchise per characters that I think will be in, it is close to what Brawl had. The biggest change is the Misc. section. There are many characters just from one franchise.

My prediction is we will get one reveal per month until October. July will be Ice Climbers, August will be Captain Falcon (not unlockable anymore), and September will be Ganondorf (also not unlockable). The remaining 10 will be unlockables including Game & Watch. 4 of the 33 revealed will also be unlockables (Pacman, Sonic, Luigi, and Greninja is my guess).

I would think Ice Climbers, Wario, and Meta Knight would be the highest priority veterans to reveal as they are the only non-unlockable characters left from Brawl to confirm that aren't Squirtle, Ivysaur, or Lucas.

 

[JB-the-Hunter]

Omg

Has anyone called Pac-man? Cause I want him if no one has. He's the character I wanna try the most now!

I called him

 

[Beelzebufo]

It can't be much different than Luma. Nana mirrors everything Popo does, and if separated, does whatever she can to return to him, unless he issues a command, which she then tries to duplicate.

I don't see it being a show stopper. If the 3DS version can handle 4 CPU only fights with much more complex AI required, it can probably easily handle 4 IC fights.

Doesn't she have to do her own movements to get back to him though? She can't just fly through the air like Luma. I don't think it'll be a problem, but they're in a unique situation.

 

[Ryce]

Regarding the Chorus Kids:

Rhythm Heaven is a music game, and its series logo will likely be a musical note. The Chorus Kids most immediately portray the appeal of the series and its genre. Look at Wii Fit Trainer -- she's not the protagonist of that series (Miis are), and she's not even the "mascot" (the sentient Wii Balance Board is), but because she portrays "fitness" at first glance with all of her yoga poses and exercises she's a perfect Wii Fit representative.

Unlike Mario or Link, Sakurai isn't obligated to include a character as obscure as the Chorus Kids. Obviously he had something clever/fun in mind at the onset or else he wouldn't have bothered with them. He shut a lot of people up with his implementation of Little Mac, the Mii Fighters, and Pac-Man, so why not just wait and see what he did with the Chorus Kids?

 

[TheSlySoul]

I would think Ice Climbers, Wario, and Meta Knight would be the highest priority veterans to reveal as they are the only non-unlockable characters left from Brawl to confirm that aren't Squirtle, Ivysaur, or Lucas.

Could be. I am still going with my gut feeling we are only going to get 3 more characters until the 3DS release.

 

[Watch Da Birdie]

Wonder if we'll have the every-once-in-awhile Friday reveal tonight.

 

[Cse]

At this point, I feel like we should just have someone create a universally agreed upon short list of enhancements and have a big twitter RT campaign or have someone Nintendo:

Movement:

- Increase in the window of time to dash back and forward
- Ability to cancel dash animations into crouches
- Ability to keep all forward momentum when jumping out of a dash

Offense

- Cast wide reduction in landing lag frames when using aerials close to the ground
- Cast wide reduction on cool down frames after throws for easier followups

This should be enough right? Just package it together in a nice text file link in a tweet with #MakeTheBestSmash or some encouraging thing like that, maybe with an eloquent foreword and let it out.

The voices of the community need to be unified behind a hastag or some other platform. Everyone is currently complaining online, but there really needs to be some unification behind the concerns so that the message can be effectively conveyed to Nintendo.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

Doesn't she have to do her own movements to get back to him though?

Anything that's required for this is even more taxing on an AI Character Bot, which the 3DS certainly has because it has a single player mode.

4 IC Bots might be kind of taxing, but I'm sure they can figure it out.