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Destiny developer Bungie and Sony have been partners for longer than you think
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Michael F. Assbender
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Lemme pull a theory out of my ass real quick.
Maybe Sony was aware of how buddy-buddy Respawn and Microsoft were. Maybe they were afraid of the details of the PS4 being leaked to Microsoft. Maybe they trusted Bungie because there exists some bad blood between the folks at Bungie and the folks at Microsoft.
Totally a product of my imagination, but it seems plausible. Not that that's worth anything.
Angelus Errare
Banned
I think the simple answer is Respawn was a brand new studio with no games under its belt and was a small team. Sony was going to developers for input on the console from hardware to coding/tools to controller and felt Respawn really wouldn't be able to give viable feedback due to them being relatively new.
Respawn approached Sony before MS and EA got together. There was a thread on it.
Respawn approached Sony before MS and EA got together. There was a thread on it.
ElRenoRaven
Member
Not surprising. I know Bungie had input into the controller and other stuff. It's nice when someone will listen and actually work with developers to give them the platform that they want. At one time MS did that too.
Oh I have no doubt there is some bad blood there even if anyone won't admit to it. I think MS wanted nothing but a Halo factory and well the Bungie folks were wanting to try something new. I still to this day wish that project Phoenix hadn't been killed. The rumors of what it was sounded interesting as all hell.
Oh I have no doubt there is some bad blood there even if anyone won't admit to it. I think MS wanted nothing but a Halo factory and well the Bungie folks were wanting to try something new. I still to this day wish that project Phoenix hadn't been killed. The rumors of what it was sounded interesting as all hell.
GoofsterStud
Member
Doesn't matter. The deal went through EA bypassing Respawn.
PhoenixFyre
Member
Titanfall is relatively cool but outside of the MS faithful it's not making that big of a splash. All reports point to the sequel going multiplatform so clearly it didn't have the impact MS wanted.
Even if Destiny isn't exclusive it's being marketed as such and comes from one of the biggest names in shooters. Sony survived the Titanfall onslaught and still came out on top. Having Destiny marketed on their console isn't going to hurt.
Netherscourge
Banned
So, the second they left Microsoft, they became partners.
Well Respawn was going behind Activisions back with EA, do you let snakes into your yet to be unveiled garden? Of course not
PhoenixFyre
Member
Do you have an article or anything talking about this? That sounds really interesting.
Black Mantis
Member
The deal was only for the 1st game, no way the sequel was going to be anything other than multi-platform.
Bungie make great games and Destiny did deserve to go onto multiple formats. Just sticking to Xbox was always going to hinder their overall progress but I do dislike the way Bungie went with Sony and pretty much ignore the Xbox versions. Sony are probably throwing money to make sure the marketing heads in that direction but it can feel like Bungie are forgetting their Xbox fans.
PhoenixFyre
Member
EA has rights to the sequel and first game. When Microsoft init ally bought the rights to the first game, there was talk of picking up the sequel if the first did well enough. And with the "unprecedented partnership" between MS and EA, MS could have made the deal for the sequel if they wanted it bad enough.
Bungie has a better track record and for the most part their studio was intact after the deal with MS
Old IW was stuck in legal cases and studio imploded literally months after shipping a title
Which is safest and probably smoother to deal with?
Well Microsoft fans was their only support base because it was the only system their games launched on.
They wanted to expand, Microsoft wanted more Halo's
You don't want Bungie becoming like Rare and getting so horned into just one thing. I can see Microsoft fans being mad if it wasn't coming to your system, but it is. So I don't get the hate, if you love Bungie you want to see them do their best.
I remember that. It going away i$ probably a big reas$on why they are partner$.
It's between Activision and Sony.
Bungie is being very open about the game coming to multiple platforms and that they haven't forgotten their Xbox fanbase and maybe even PC.
Developers have to do some things that the money giver demands of them.
Probably with Activision being involved with Destiny as the publisher there was probably some clause about getting involved with Respawn, or Sony just didn't want to be facing pressure from Activision about it considering the lawsuit between the two companies.
The Lamonster
Member
I'm not going to risk posting articles from sites that may get me banned here. Even if it isn't legit, that's what people on the Internet and industry heard, that was the rep at the time they had. So facts or not, it was the perceived notion. Just like it's perceived by the general population that Microsoft is the 'weaker' system when in actuality they are almost very similar to sony. Just a lot of their power and ideas was focused on things other than games.
I ran into more cases than I'd have liked where the auto-aim pulled my reticle off a headshot I had lined up to try to track an unrelated enemy elsewhere. I thought overall the game controlled well, but I think of that like a cardinal sin when it comes to aim-implementation.
Hrmm...more of a Sony thing then. I am sure Bungie will make an awesome game on all fronts. To be honest, Sony fans deserve to see what all the Bungie fuss was about.
Felix Lighter
Member
I always looked at the way Bungie regained their independence as an intact studio from MS as an exceptional good end to what could have been an Infinity Ward style disaster but I wonder how partnerships like this are viewed from MS.
Rats Off To Ya
Banned
But for whatever reason they did. Maybe Microsoft was more actively pursuing Respawn and they didn't feel it was worth the fight? I don't know. Destiny definitely feels like more of a PlayStation game than Titanfall, anyway.
I guess they could be a little salty from it but all the marketing Sony do works in MS's favor as well. As the game gets bigger, I am sure MS might throw money at Bungie for Destiny sequels or content etc.
Suzushiiro
Banned
As someone already said, it could be worse- Bungie was originally a Mac developer, and while they eventually went Mac/PC they were still at the time one of the few developers who released the Mac version of their games at the same time as the PC version. Halo was originally unveiled at MacWorld expo in 1999.
Then MS bought them. Mac users had to wait until 2003 to play a shitty port of Halo.
Then MS bought them. Mac users had to wait until 2003 to play a shitty port of Halo.
funkystudent
Member
I still think that Respawn story is sugar coated.
It just seems a little convenient that they wouldnt say the company would benefit from pushing for a end to used games as well giant partnership with your publisher and MS didnt play a part in your game being exclusive? Yeah.... Ok pal.
And slightly off topic but I still think the Bungie / MS split is super interesting and I do hope someone writes a book about the lead up and aftermath someday. That story is about as silly as Naughty Dog randomly deciding to go independent. It was nuts! Then you had all those rumours of maybe Gearbox being brought in to take over Halo if the stuff with Bungie went south.... There is a real cool story there.
It just seems a little convenient that they wouldnt say the company would benefit from pushing for a end to used games as well giant partnership with your publisher and MS didnt play a part in your game being exclusive? Yeah.... Ok pal.
And slightly off topic but I still think the Bungie / MS split is super interesting and I do hope someone writes a book about the lead up and aftermath someday. That story is about as silly as Naughty Dog randomly deciding to go independent. It was nuts! Then you had all those rumours of maybe Gearbox being brought in to take over Halo if the stuff with Bungie went south.... There is a real cool story there.
FlyStarJay
Member
Lol thought same as well
PhoenixFyre
Member
I really don't understand the reaction to the fact that Respawn didn't get the same access Bungie did. If two people want to borrow something you care about, who are you more likely to lend it to? Someone you barely know or someone you've known for a long time?
GifGafIsTheBestGaf
Member
im sure they will, most big hits always do. the app got stealthy updated with watch dogs custom config.
Oh shit, didn't even know that! Thanks.
Oni Link 666
Member
Oh, Destiny developer Bungie. I thought it was the other Bungie.
cripterion
Member
Well pillars aligned or not, they failed to helped them make a good controller for FPS imo, those shoddy triggers, I just can't...
king grimlock
Member
And just like that the thread is now about the DS4
Yeah, seems it was a Game Informer article. Bungie was mentioned specifically over all others.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=57212386#post57212386
Traitorous? Jesus man, chill out and think about the whole situation. Bungie became independent in 2007, probably because they weren't interested in churning out Halo forever. They then design and create a new IP that is exciting for them, and that is coming out to BOTH Xbox and Playstation platforms. This is not an exclusive.
Insomniac went ahead and made an Xbox exclusive after making a ton of PS3 exclusives, and I still don't think it's "treacherous". Developers are just trying to make a living and do good work. They're not sitting in their cubicles laughing maniacally about their fan bases and how they're "allied" with x, y, or z company.
You have to keep in mind that, whatever choices an independent developer makes is for their own benefit. If they decided to partner with Sony, it's because it made sense for their studio. Same for Insomniac -- it must have benefited them creatively/economically to make an exclusive for the Xbox. Why do you have to bring stuff like "traitor" into this?
Hibiki Kurosawa
Member
Same.....
HORRORSHØW
Member
you just can't what, learn to use another controller like toddlers can?
GifGafIsTheBestGaf
Member
you are welcome.
and i agree it would be interesting how their independence happened, when the news began popping in media outlets i thought it was crazy (it practically was like ND decided to leave sony level of megaton)
No doubt. I still can't believe that Mattrick interview with Keighly at E3 last year. Total arrogance.
I have a cooking spray by a company called "Bunge" whose font looks oddly similar to the Bungie wordmark.
NavyPharaoh
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FlyStarJay
Member
Did sony hate respawn due to bad blood in mw series? With them working close with MS while been 3rd party? Just speculating
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