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Sports are becoming more and more specialized now (especially baseball) with the top guys playing all year around from a young age, that I'm not so sure what Bo Jackson did could be replicated again. What he did and what makes him so amazing isn't his counting stats, it's that he played two very difficult professional sports at a fairly high level at the same damn time. He walked off a baseball diamond and onto a football field with no training camp and beasted. Of course he wasn't as great as the greatest running backs, nor was he as great as the greatest baseball players, but he did both and did them well. That was pretty damn amazing. When you consider how hard it is just to break into the majors in baseball, for example, doing it while being an NFL player also is fucking mindboggling. Don't get me wrong, there is a little bit of tall tale with Bo. He's like a modern day real life Paul Bunyan or John Henry (or I guess, to be a bit more modern, Chuck Norris or the Dos Equis guy) and that helps to build his legend. I don't think he was one of the greatest football players of all time, and he was far from one of the greatest baseball players of all time, and even without injury, I wonder how long and at what level he could have kept playing both. I think eventually something would have to give. But as far as an athlete? I think he's far from overrated. He was an amazing athlete.
 
Sports are becoming more and more specialized now (especially baseball) with the top guys playing all year around from a young age, that I'm not so sure what Bo Jackson did could be replicated again. What he did and what makes him so amazing isn't his counting stats, it's that he played two very difficult professional sports at a fairly high level at the same damn time. He walked off a baseball diamond and onto a football field with no training camp and beasted. Of course he wasn't as great as the greatest running backs, nor was he as great as the greatest baseball players, but he did both and did them well. That was pretty damn amazing. When you consider how hard it is just to break into the majors in baseball, for example, doing it while being an NFL player also is fucking mindboggling.
More impressive than Cedric Ceballos dunking blindfolded or AC Green being a virgin on the Showtime Lakers?
 
Nah he is what he is. A good player, not a generational talent, and about 4 rings far from all time great.

Lebron not a generational talent, hahahaha.
We wont see anyone with his combination of strength, speed, physical coordination and basketball IQ in a long time, maybe never.
 
Guys who are 6'8" and build like Karl Malone, but can see the floor and create offense like a point guard, and defensively guard every other player on the floor...yup those guys are a dime a dozen.
 
which makes it awkward to measure Jeter, who ONLY played SS, against a bunch of guys who spent up to half their careers at a different position.

The issue is that Jeter should have moved off of Shortstop 10 years ago, when the Yankees got a better Shortstop.
The fact that he didn't is a negative against him, not a positive in favor of him.

You need six rings to be considered an all time great? You must think Bird is a bum.

And if championships are the measure of greatness, Bill Russell is clearly the GOAT.

Bill Russell is clearly the GOAT.
 
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I think it was mostly because he looked slick.
 
Andrew Bynum - bum

Manny Pacquiao - gained fame from beating people at the end of their career, coming off losses or making people fight at catch weights. When was the last time pacquiao best someone at their natural weight, in their prime?

Kevin Love - Monster stats on a bad team that he can't even get Into the playoffs. Once hes traded he will be with better players and he won't be the same
 
Lebron not a generational talent, hahahaha.
We wont see anyone with his combination of strength, speed, physical coordination and basketball IQ in a long time, maybe never.

By this logic Andrew Wiggins should already be crowned.

It takes more than physical tools to be a generational talent. Lebron's results (or lack thereof) speak for themselves. He's a career underachiever who fails more often than he succeeds when a team needs him most.
 
Ronaldinho was never world class, he was a good player that did too many tricks and was too greedy.

I disagree, he was on another level in regards to just about anyone in the game at that time - he was world class, his problem was his attitude in his final season at Barcelona, he had no desire to apply himself to his craft anymore, and his career took a nosedive from then on. He had 3 or 4 seasons at the top of his game where he was untouchable and then he threw it all away.
 
I have a silly question.

what do soccer fans think of beckham? I know next to nothing about soccer and beckham but always wondered if his fame was justified by his skill on the field or if it is hype.
 
I have a silly question.

what do soccer fans think of beckham? I know next to nothing about soccer and beckham but always wondered if his fame was justified by his skill on the field or if it is hype.

He was a very good player, he just wasn't world class like a lot of the popular media statements' at the time would have you believe. His fame came from the fact that he married a spice girl, not his ability on the pitch.
 
I have a silly question.

what do soccer fans think of beckham? I know next to nothing about soccer and beckham but always wondered if his fame was justified by his skill on the field or if it is hype.

He wasn't the best player but he was pretty fucking good. I've always been a fan.

Free kick goals and beautiful curved crosses look good on TV. Plus it helps to marry a Spice Girl.
 
He wasn't the best player but he was pretty fucking good. I've always been a fan.

Free kick goals and beautiful curved crosses look good on TV. Plus it helps to marry a Spice Girl.

I think what helped with him too was he always had the right attitude towards football; great ambassador for the game. He was a solid player with outstanding ability on dead ball situations/set pieces.
 
He was a very good player, he just wasn't world class like a lot of the popular media statements' at the time would have you believe. His fame came from the fact that he married a spice girl, not his ability on the pitch.

He wasn't the best player but he was pretty fucking good. I've always been a fan.

Free kick goals and beautiful curved crosses look good on TV. Plus it helps to marry a Spice Girl.

Thanks guys. Interestingly, bleacherreport has him as the 7th best free kicker:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...greatest-free-kick-takers-of-all-time/page/12

Did a little googling.
 
For those that say Tom Brady hasn't done shit since Spygate:

2007 Stats- (The year after Spygate) 4800 yards 50 TD's 8 Int and one super glue one handed helmet catch away from going undefeated.

Just sayin.
 
By this logic Andrew Wiggins should already be crowned.

It takes more than physical tools to be a generational talent. Lebron's results (or lack thereof) speak for themselves. He's a career underachiever who fails more often than he succeeds when a team needs him most.

Wiggins can't dribble or pass anywhere near Bron. He's closer to Harrison Barnes than LeBron James. Calling him a career underachiever is one of the dumbest things ever typed.
 
For those that say Tom Brady hasn't done shit since Spygate:

2007 Stats- (The year after Spygate) 4800 yards 50 TD's 8 Int and one super glue one handed helmet catch away from going undefeated.

Just sayin.
Yeah but if he was elite he would have played better defense on tyree.
 
Wiggins can't dribble or pass anywhere near Bron. He's closer to Harrison Barnes than LeBron James. Calling him a career underachiever is one of the dumbest things ever typed.

Whoa, personal insults over stating the obvious. Nice.

Anyone who gets compared to Jordan while losing three finals is absolutely overrated and that shouldn't even be controversial.
 
Whoa, personal insults over stating the obvious. Nice.

Saying a guy with 2 championships, 4 MVP awards and who has put together some of the greatest statistical seasons in NBA history....and isn't even 30 years old yet...is a career underachiever. Not sure what else to call a statement like that other than dumb.
 
Saying a guy with 2 championships, 4 MVP awards and who has put together some of the greatest statistical seasons in NBA history....and isn't even 30 years old yet...is a career underachiever. Not sure what else to call a statement like that other than dumb.

And it took him a trip to south beach to get those 2 rings lol.
 
Saying a guy with 2 championships, 4 MVP awards and who has put together some of the greatest statistical seasons in NBA history....and isn't even 30 years old yet...is a career underachiever. Not sure what else to call a statement like that other than dumb.

He's had five chances at a ring and failed three times, that makes him pretty good but nowhere near all-time great. I'm sorry that hearing this upsets you so much that you feel the need to get personal.
 
He's had five chances at a ring and failed three times, that makes him pretty good but nowhere near all-time great. I'm sorry that hearing this upsets you so much that you feel the need to get personal.

errr Barkly did not win a ring does that mean he is not an all time great? Or Malone? The number of rings is not a factor of being an all time great.
 
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