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Are OLED TVs overrated?

MaestroMike

Gold Member
Glad I wasnt alone in this. I think they are out of the box...what they are. You cant copy other people's white balance tweaks. They are static out of the box. I could be highly uninformed though.

I actually found a unique calibration tool online. It is a pc program that uses a camera's white balance to let you gauge what 2point adjustments you need to do. It got me to my final tweaks on this ks8000 4 years in.

The colors are about as on point as my plasma with 200 hours of break in slides and applying other users tweaks to the technician menu.

Cool link to the program?
 
Behold, the fantastic black levels of my mere TCL R617, captured via my Fujifilm X-T3. OLED is unnecessary.

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The stream (Legion Season 3) isn't even in 4K-HDR; it's in 1080p-SDR streamed via Amazon Prime.

Come on now, if you're rocking a $1000+ camera like that Fujifilm surely you must know that simply messing around with exposure can make it appear to have inky blacks. Or on the opposite end, over exaggerate issues fald typically have like blooming.

The TCL 617 (really all TCL's) have a mediocre at best algorithm for their dimmable zones. The 617 is the perfect example that throwing shitloads of zones at the tv won't necessarily make it better. I've owned TCL's and sure it may punch above it's class in a value for what you pay for sense, but it doesn't compare at all to a midrange Sony or Samsung let alone an OLED. The technology of OLED inherently makes the black level performance superior. Whether or not it is deemed unnecessary is subjective really. I'm not some OLED disciple, I don't even own one, but I've owned enough tcl and Vizio's to understand they are budget tv's. Budget brands as a whole.
 
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BluRayHiDef

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Come on now, if you're rocking a $1000+ camera like that Fujifilm surely you must know that simply messing around with exposure can make it appear to have inky blacks. Or on the opposite end, over exaggerate issues fald typically have like blooming.

The TCL 617 (really all TCL's) have a mediocre at best algorithm for their dimmable zones. The 617 is the perfect example that throwing shitloads of zones at the tv won't necessarily make it better. I've owned TCL's and sure it may punch above it's class in a value for what you pay for sense, but it doesn't compare at all to a midrange Sony or Samsung let alone an OLED. The technology of OLED inherently makes the black level performance superior. Whether or not it is deemed unnecessary is subjective really. I'm not some OLED disciple, I don't even own one, but I've owned enough tcl and Vizio's to understand they are budget tv's. Budget brands as a whole.
So, you're accusing me of lying/ frauding? That picture is representative of how that scene looks on it, which is why I chose to take the picture in the first place. Also, the R617 was released two years ago, which means that TCL has had time to improve the local dimming algorithm via firmware updates.
 
So, you're accusing me of lying/ frauding? That picture is representative of how that scene looks on it, which is why I chose to take the picture in the first place. Also, the R617 was released two years ago, which means that TCL has had time to improve the local dimming algorithm via firmware updates.

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Eh, I'm not going to sit here snd accuse you of anything. I'm just saying it is laughable to compare how a tcl 617 handles black levels to an OLED. The same website you're linking gave the TCL 617 a 6.0 out of 10 for local dimming performance. The majority of the grunt work regarding contrast in an LCD tv will be it's backlighting and the algorithm controlling it. TCL ain't it.

You subjectively feel it has good enough performance to render OLED unnecessary and that's good. But once you leave the objectivity behind the data shows otherwise.
 

BluRayHiDef

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Eh, I'm not going to sit here snd accuse you of anything. I'm just saying it is laughable to compare how a tcl 617 handles black levels to an OLED. The same website you're linking gave the TCL 617 a 6.0 out of 10 for local dimming performance. The majority of the grunt work regarding contrast in an LCD tv will be it's backlighting and the algorithm controlling it. TCL ain't it.

You subjectively feel it has good enough performance to render OLED unnecessary and that's good. But once you leave the objectivity behind the data shows otherwise.
I was being facetious in regard to it rendering OLED obsolete. However, that photo is accurate; I swear to you. Also, Rtings gave its local dimming performance a 6/10 because there is visible clouding on moving subjects; however, for static subjects, such as in the picture that I provided, there is minimal or no clouding for subjects that aren't smaller than its local dimming zones.
 
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