It's still baffling that they waited until the private conference to reveal Pac-Man.
Actually I think Nintendo and Sakurai come to an agreement on when to reveal characters. There's an obvious reason most veterans are revealed along with the release of a new game in their series and newcomers are revealed in Nintendo Directs (or at E3). I doubt that's Sakurai alone.Sakurai decides what gets revealed when, and I doubt he cares about Evo. He wouldn't even throw a bone to Nintendo of America's E3 tournament.
They will probably announce a veteran character and show some new gameplay before (or after) the Melee final.
They will probably announce a veteran character and show some new gameplay before (or after) the Melee final.
The man came out and spoke to the audience, flying all the way from Japan just to do so before returning. You are not being fair to him.Sakurai decides what gets revealed when, and I doubt he cares about Evo. He wouldn't even throw a bone to Nintendo of America's E3 tournament.
and hopefully show off the Gamecube controller adapter.
The reason why Pac-Man was shown at the roundtable instead of the tournament was because he was shown at the roundtable. Do you see the problem with this logic? You're saying the only reason they made a poor decision was because they made it.Also, there's a reason nothing was shown at the tournament. Pac-Man's reveal was specifically intended for the roundtable, and Miis and Palutena bookended their Digital Event.
This sounds more plausible, the fact that he showed up at the tournament at all shows some respect towards the competitive scene.The man came out and spoke to the audience, flying all the way from Japan just to do so before returning. You are not being fair to him.
Likely, he just thought the event drew enough attention as it is, and it was better to spread the hype around to multiple events at E3. Maybe he was wrong in that decision, but I think that's more likely than "he doesn't care" given his actions. I wouldn't hold my breath for an Evo reveal, but I wouldn't discount it, either.
The point I was trying to make is that there was no room for a reveal during the Invitational because each reveal was done in a specific place. If the roundtable hadn't happened, or if Nintendo had decided to end the Digital Event with Zelda intstead of another Smash character, who's to say priory wouldn't have shifted to the invitational and Pac-Man or Palutena been revealed there? They probably would have.The reason why Pac-Man was shown at the roundtable instead of the tournament was because he was shown at the roundtable. Nice circular logic there.
Capcom revealed USF4 at EVO 2013, and also did a number of reveals for other fighting games at the event in the past.Do the other sponsors do/show anything at EVO?
Do the other sponsors do/show anything at EVO?
Given the amount of viewers Melee had during last years evo and the fact that Nintendo is sponsoring this year, it'd be absurd if Nintendo didn't take this opportunity to advertisement Smash 4 though out evo.
I don't know if they'll reveal a new character, but a new trailer seems plausible.
Capcom revealed USF4 at EVO 2013, and also did a number of reveals for other fighting games at the event in the past.
We saw Tekken Tag Tournament 2 and Killer Instinct during the last couple of years.
" hey smash bros, and 2 vets re back, but before you get to play.... Let me tell you about smash run. Because you TOTALLY wanna hear about that right"
How could you not expect thousands of viewers? It's a live demonstration of your highly anticipated game by some of the best players in the world during E3 hype.From what I understand , they didn't expect as many people as they did at that thing. Maybe if they did, pacman would have been revealed then. Its likely that they had already made arrangements for the roundtable, and things couldn't be changed around.
And they should have planned the reveal in a different specific place. Again, you're using circular logic here.The point I was trying to make is that there was no room for a reveal during the Invitational because each reveal was done in a specific place. If the roundtable hadn't happened, or if Nintendo had decided to end the Digital Event with Zelda intstead of another Smash character, who's to say priory wouldn't have shifted to the invitational and Pac-Man or Palutena been revealed there? They probably would have.
What happened at E3 doesn't really say anything about how Nintendo would handle (or not handle) EVO.
I'm not expecting a character reveal, not until August, but maybe a feature that caters to competitive players.I doubt Nintendo is going to unveil anything at EVO, so don't get your hopes up.
He flew from Japan for the roundtable discussion. His cameo at the tournament was a bonus.The man came out and spoke to the audience, flying all the way from Japan just to do so before returning. You are not being fair to him.
I am glad you know his mind.He flew from Japan for the roundtable discussion. His cameo at the tournament was a bonus.
How could you not expect thousands of viewers? It's a live demonstration of your highly anticipated game by some of the best players in the world during E3 hype.
And if not the tournament, how about the Digital Event? Pac-Man is gonna drum up way more hype than Mii Fighter or Palutena ever could.
And they should have planned the reveal in a different specific place. Again, you're using circular logic here.
Counter point: Ike was revealed two weeks before E3 and in a POTD.Actually I think Nintendo and Sakurai come to an agreement on when to reveal characters. There's an obvious reason most veterans are revealed along with the release of a new game in their series and newcomers are revealed in Nintendo Directs (or at E3). I doubt that's Sakurai alone.
Also, there's a reason nothing was shown at the tournament. Pac-Man's reveal was specifically intended for the roundtable, and Miis and Palutena bookended their Digital Event.
EVO is a different story, there's nothing really keeping Nintendo/Sakurai from revealing a veteran if they wanted to. Unless a Nintendo Direct is happening around the same time, in which case, it's serving the same purpose as revealing a character during EVO.
No disagreement there.Nintendo puts faith in odd areas and a lack of faith in other odd areas
The Smash Bros. roundtable required Sakurai's presence -- he revealed Pac-Man, talked about the game, and held a Q&A session. He didn't need to be at the tournament. Flying out from Japan "just to" speak to the audience is false either way.I am glad you know his mind.
From what I understand , they didn't expect as many people as they did at that thing. Maybe if they did, pacman would have been revealed then. Its likely that they had already made arrangements for the roundtable, and things couldn't be changed around.
I'm not using circular logic. It only seems that way from your point of view because you're talking about something completely different than I am. What I'm talking about is the Invitational in relation to EVO. You're talking about the Invitational in relation to the Roundtable.And they should have planned the reveal in a different specific place. Again, you're using circular logic here.
Again, you're using circular logic here.
If the people at Nintendo think like this, it's no wonder they're accused of being out of touch.I'm guessing this + slight nervousness at how the crowd would react. All 3 characters they had shown this E3 were already leaked. And while I'm 99% sure the crowd would've been thrilled regardless, that 1% chance of being booed, or having a quiet crowd, would still be too high of a risk to take for the biggest game of the year across both a company's systems.
That's something else entirely.I'm not using circular logic. It only seems that way from your point of view because you're talking about something completely different than I am. What I'm talking about is the Invitational in relation to EVO. You're talking about the Invitational in relation to the Roundtable.
Whether or not Pac-Man should have been shown at the Invitational has nothing to do with my argument. My argument is that the fact that Pac-Man wasn't shown at the Invitational doesn't mean that a character won't be shown at a similar event in EVO. Sakurai/Nintendo decided not to show a character at the Invitational because the Digital Event and the Roundtable is where they were specifically decided to be shown. At EVO, however, there is no Digital Event/Roundtable equivalent. There's nothing holding them back from showing something there.
There's a good chance Pac-Man may have not been well-received by the Invitational crowd.
Those people would have been hyped to see anything at that point. The atmosphere was thick with the stuff.
If the people at Nintendo think like this, it's no wonder they're accused of being out of touch.
Pac-man is the arcade icon. There is no way a Pac-Man announcement is getting booed offstage.
2/3 of which are most likely gonna remain unlockables.Since Nintendo did research on the competitive community prior to the Smash Invitational, revealing a few veterans that have a reputation in the competitive community would be fitting.
A new trailer with Captain Falcon, Falco, and/or Meta Knight perhaps.
Are you crazy? Pac-Man is a pop-culture icon that makes Mega Man look obscure. The crowd would have exploded.There's a good chance Pac-Man may have not been well-received by the Invitational crowd.
There was no risk.Why? It didn't make much difference in the long run. They got cheers for saying there'd be news tonight, and then they all found out about Pac-man and were happy. If something were to be badly recieved, they wouldn't have to have ever shown the live footage of Pac-man's reveal. They avoided taking a risk and managed to get roughly the same pay off.
Well For me personally Pac-Man is boring and generated no hype. So it doesn't surprise me that others aren't that hyped either
But would you have booed his reveal and/or acted violently?
There was no risk.
There was no risk. Why do you think the crowd would boo a Pac-Man reveal? It's fucking Pac-Man.They may have felt there was a small, small amount of risk, and it'd be unfair to say there's no risk. People will boo or make a big deal out of anything during E3. There might have been a slight risk, and for something where it made almost no difference, it's not stupid of them to have done what they did instead.
2/3 of which are most likely gonna remain unlockables.
