2014 FIFA World Cup Final |OT| Germany defeats Argentina 1-0 after extra time

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Someone update this with Argentina

Nah, the Argentinian team was far more than a stunned Loki. They fought bravely and were dangerous when they managed to get the ball. They delivered quite an amazing fight, and I was at the edge of my seat quite a few times thanks to them.

Next time we meet, let's foul less and play more, Argentina. That's the only thing about this match that left a stale aftertaste. Both teams were a bit too focused on fighting. The knee kick or Neuers defence attack weren't really necessary, and Schweini already looks homely enough even without that punch to the face. Still, awesome match.
 
Well, ok then. My teams are HSV and Panathinaikos but I don't really care about club football. See you next year for the Women World Cup 2015 (Germany will win) and in two years for Euro Cup 2016 (Greece will win, of course).

Gute Nacht.
Viel Spaß beim Feiern.
 
Ronaldo's records and achievements are comparable to Messi's. They've won everything at club level and broken numerous awards. Both have won nothing at international level, yet Messi is considered the GOAT.

Why?

Why aren't players like Iniesta considered GOAT when he's literally won everything you can as a player.
 
My favorite in memory. Such a fun tournament, filled with lots of surprises and upsets. Bittersweet over the final, but Brazil 2014 now stands as my favorite Cup yet.

Amazing tournament overall.
To me it's either 2014 or 1998 as the best ever.

Older people seem to think 1970 is still the best tho.
 
I can't believe people are whinging about Messi not smiling for the camera or providing therapeutic consolidation for his teammates. He doesn't owe anyone anything and even if he does who fucking cares
 
Was rooting for Germany since Australia's exit, awesome to see them get up. A very good side. Both teams had their chances. Good match!
 
Ronaldo's records and achievements are comparable to Messi's. They've won everything at club level and broken numerous awards. Both have won nothing at international level, yet Messi is considered the GOAT.

Why?

Why aren't players like Iniesta considered GOAT when he's literally won everything you can as a player.

Iniesta isn't an individual player. He plays as an assistant to the likes of Messi.
 
Messi is such a little bitch. Waaaaah, I didn't win, I'm going to visibly pout about it like a little bitch the entire way up and down the stairs, twice.

Fans trying to high-five me? Fuck you, I don't care about you. I care about me.

This is why I'm so happy they lost. He's such a fuckbag.
soccer expert right here
 
I agree with him, on championships like CL you can buy your best team and get through, you can't do that in a WC.

That's not the point he made though, he said that Messi is almost capable of winning games by himself and turn around matches, but not capable.

He didn't win the world cup final by himself. He's won plenty of Barcelona matches by himself. He's won three matches in this World Cup pretty much single handledly.

As for your other point, that's taken. But look at players like Bale. If he scores one hundred goals next season and every season for the next ten years, is he automatically not the GOAT because he hasn't won a World Cup? Because his country are shit?

It's a bit of a silly argument. I'm not arguing that Maradona or Pele aren't the greatest, but Maradona didn't score any of the goals in the final, and one of his goals against England was a cheat, and he was not the only good player in the side. Pele was part of some stunningly good teams, he was injured in 62 and all his goals came in Brazil and America.

Cryuff never won a World Cup and people will still think he's one of the greatest. Did George Best even play at one? Di Stefano didn't.

It's just an odd reductive argument to make that he cannot be the greatest player purely because he hasn't won it. Is Klose a better player than Messi because of all his World Cup goals and the fact he's won it? No, because we take the rest of their career into consideration.

And of course, Pele and Maradona had sterling careers. But I think Messi's has certainly been above Pele's club career. Argument can be made for Maradona's achievements with Napoli, but another thing is Messi's consistency. He's been the best player in the world for probably eight years now. He's been in Barcelona's first team for around ten. He's got three champions leagues and scored in two finals. He's got the la Liga scoring record. Last season was probably his worst since he was 20 and he scored 40 goals.

It's really not as reductive as many make out.
 
Congrats to Germany, we both played very well and it could have gone either way. Can't say i am not mad about the clear penalty we did not get, but both teams played very well.

Argentino y con la frente en alto.
 
Confirmed that every 24 years a team can be four-times world champion.

Brasil 70-94
Italy 82-2006
Germany 90-2014

We won't be seeing this happen again for a long fucking time because only Uruguay and Argentina at 2 WC championships, 20 WC cups played and only 8 nations have won it all, all those nations that have played in it and 8 nations controls the WC..
 
Ronaldo's records and achievements are comparable to Messi's. They've won everything at club level and broken numerous awards. Both have won nothing at international level, yet Messi is considered the GOAT.

Why?

Why aren't players like Iniesta considered GOAT when he's literally won everything you can as a player.

None of the players you mentioned are the GOAT
 
Oh no, I missed the game. I thought the finals were going to be held tomorrow.

Oh well, there's always the next world cup.
 
That's not the point he made though, he said that Messi is almost capable of winning games by himself and turn around matches, but not capable.

He didn't win the world cup final by himself. He's won plenty of Barcelona matches by himself. He's won three matches in this World Cup pretty much single handledly.

As for your other point, that's taken. But look at players like Bale. If he scores one hundred goals next season and every season for the next ten years, is he automatically not the GOAT because he hasn't won a World Cup? Because his country are shit?

It's a bit of a silly argument. I'm not arguing that Maradona or Pele aren't the greatest, but Maradona didn't score any of the goals in the final, and one of his goals against England was a cheat, and he was not the only good player in the side. Pele was part of some stunningly good teams, he was injured in 62 and all his goals came in Brazil and America.

Cryuff never won a World Cup and people will still think he's one of the greatest. Did George Best even play at one? Di Stefano didn't.

It's just an odd reductive argument to make that he cannot be the greatest player purely because he hasn't won it. Is Klose a better player than Messi because of all his World Cup goals and the fact he's won it? No, because we take the rest of their career into consideration.

And of course, Pele and Maradona had sterling careers. But I think Messi's has certainly been above Pele's club career. Argument can be made for Maradona's achievements with Napoli, but another thing is Messi's consistency. He's been the best player in the world for probably eight years now. He's been in Barcelona's first team for around ten. He's got three champions leagues and scored in two finals. He's got the la Liga scoring record. Last season was probably his worst since he was 20 and he scored 40 goals.

It's really not as reductive as many make out.

is this the follow up to the moyes defense?

messi is the player version of moyes

RIP
 
Argentina had key decisions go against them like that clear Neuer penalty on Higuain, but really they had many clear chances to make this game not go to extra time.
lol, these tears are delicious.

Can you let us know how you REALLY feel? lol
 
Are they gonna wait until UEFA 2016 to release four star apparel? I assume, this being western capitalist culture and all, that we'll be able to order them in a few hours?
 
As for your other point, that's taken. But look at players like Bale. If he scores one hundred goals next season and every season for the next ten years, is he automatically not the GOAT because he hasn't won a World Cup? Because his country are shit?
that's the thing, messi's country isn't shit, its a world super power Argentina and he still can't win

he will never be like zidane who carried a 90 year old French team to the final by himself in 2006
 
Posting in this thread has taken me from Junior Member to Member. This plus Germany's win makes this a wonderful evening.

Argentina played a good tournament. There is no shame in losing to Germany in extra time.
 
I had a lot of fun this World Cup.

The best I have seen since '98.

It was great being in this thread with you guys.

There were differences of opinion.

There were laughs and there were tears.

But in the end we had an absolute terrific football month.
 
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