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[Odrion]

It's hard to say Marth isn't iconic, he's the frontman for the FE series, which has been around as long as stuff like Metroid and Kirby.

The others are a bit more debatable, especially Lucina seeing as she, at best, the third most important character in her game (behind Robin and Chrom).

I'd argue that Marth over in the west is more known for being "that powerful dude in the Smash games" than for Fire Emblem. Up until the success of the 3DS version, Fire Emblem has been rather obscure outside of Japan.

but my argument is all anecdotal and gut feeling and I could easily be owned by the sales figures of some GBA title or whatever

 

[mrhej]

Now Ike has many friends to fight with

 

[NeonZ]

Wait a minute, I checked the official site and see that Lucina is her own character. Isn't she just a clone of Marth? Why the hell isn't she an alt skin? I thought they were trying to cut back on clones in this game?

They attempted that in Brawl (giving many unique animations to the clones), it was pointless and people still complained about clones.

Don't see how people are getting that they were attempting to cut clones here when we had Toon Link revealed here fairly early, and he was the most cloneish character in Brawl, seemingly with no big changes here.

 

[SilverLunar]

No, but it claimed Chrom was a playable character. He's not. It also claimed we were gonna get Shulk today. We didn't.

It's still not completely debunked--it's ridiculous to assume everything they've said up to now have been nothing but guesses--but you can expect some people will treat it as such and dismiss anyone who thinks it still has any truth to it.

I am one of the believers of the leak.
But come on, of course it will be useless at this point if not everything was accurate, I was waiting for Shulk, but got something even better!

It is unreliable now.

 

[bobawesome]

Pokemon is worth over 1.5 billion dollars.

No, it's not overrepresented.

I don't care how much it's worth, I think it is overrepresented.

Are you saying that Pokemon should have less than 4 characters?

I think there are several more on the way and yes.

Relax, there's still several characters to go. It'll even out more.
That said, Pokemon, Zelda, and Mario should be about the same. They're ninty's biggest franchises, especially Pokemon and Mario. Pokemon rotates characters in and out of the spotlight more than Mario does, which is why it has a more unique cast from each game to game than Mario does.

Relax? I was relaxed. I was giving my opinion after watching the latest video.

It is the second most financially successful franchise Nintendo has, what are on good sir?
It deserves it more that any other series in Smash Bros.

Again, I couldn't care less how successful it is for Nintendo. I've never cared for Pokemon as characters in any of the Smash Bros. games.

 

[Crayolan]

Even if it was a genuine leak, it clearly wasn't up to date with development and is therefore useless.

I'd say it's not useless simply because it puts the possibility of the Chorus Men on the table, which close to no one would have ever even considered without the leak. Shulk is still likely and highly requested with or without the leak, so it doesn't really "help" with that.

 

[BY2K]

I love how Captain Falcon was kicking Lucina's ass with hand-to-hand parries and stuff.

It's also pretty much implied he kicked Chrom's ass before she started fighting him.

It also got me thinking that Nintendo should consider having some "rivals" in Smash, the same way Street Fighter does them..

Like Pit vs Link, or Captain Falcon vs the Fire Emblem characters. We could easily say that Captain Falcon was after them because there was a bounty on Chrom's head.

 

[The12thGripper]

First leak was obviously true while the second leak is fake. How is that hard to comprehend?

 

[Hatchtag]

I love how Captain Falcon was kicking Lucina's ass with hand-to-hand parries and stuff.

It's also pretty much implied he kicked Chrom's ass before she started fighting him.

It also got me thinking that Nintendo should consider having some "rivals" in Smash, the same way Street Fighter does them..

Like Pit vs Link, or Captain Falcon vs the Fire Emblem characters. We could easily say that Captain Falcon was after them because there was a bounty on Chrom's head.

Rivals add to much of a story to what is literally just figurines fighting.
Plus they were terrible in PSASBR.

 

[Neiteio]

Captain Falcon looks so smexy in the FEA animation style

 

[chaosblade]

They attempted that in Brawl (giving many unique animations to the clones), it was pointless and people still complained about clones.

Don't see how people are getting that they were attempting to cut clones here when we had Toon Link revealed here fairly early, and he was the most cloneish character in Brawl, seemingly with no big changes here.

I still don't understand the "Wolf is a Fox clone" sentiment. I can only assume those people never played with or against Wolf at any point, ever. Final Smash is the same, specials are similar but definitely not the same, and every attack using the A button is unique.

 

[Moonlight]

I think Fire Emblem and Pokemon are too overrepresented at this point.

Cool. I think FE has been tragically underrepresented for the past four games and I'm happy that it's getting some actual spotlight that extends a little past its' plethora of blue-haired male Lords. I'd be happier still with even more FE characters - it's a diverse enough franchise with diverse enough characters to merit that.

I don't really get 'over-representation', anyways. At four characters, FE would represent like a twelfth of the total roster at most, and I hardly think their omission would make longshots like Mach Rider or whatever else 'possible'.

 

[Spinluck]

Actually, I do wonder if Sakurai ever asks his wife to dress up as the various characters in his game

I know someone who ate at a Japanese fast food restaurant once and they said that's tradition

lets not....

 

[MisterLuffy]

Again, I couldn't care less how successful it is for Nintendo. I've never cared for Pokemon as characters in any of the Smash Bros. games.

Whether you like them or not, that's your opinion. However, there are those, who are fans of the pokemon, are glad that they're in smash.

 

[Neiteio]

First leak was obviously true while the second leak is fake. How is that hard to comprehend?

If the Chorus Men turn out to be playable (which looks likely, based on Rhythm Heaven enemies in Smash Run), I'll say the second leak was legit, as well, but somehow got the bit about Chrom incorrect.

 

[Toxi]

I don't care how much it's worth, I think it is overrepresented.

I think there are several more on the way and yes.

Relax? I was relaxed. I was giving my opinion after watching the latest video.

Again, I couldn't care less how successful it is for Nintendo. I've never cared for Pokemon as characters in any of the Smash Bros. games.

I don't care for any of the Zelda characters. Doesn't mean I'm going to call it overrepresented.

Pokemon is one of Nintendo's most prominent franchises. It makes sense for it to have a lot of characters.

 

[Htown]

I don't care how much it's worth, I think it is overrepresented.



I think there are several more on the way and yes.



Relax? I was relaxed. I was giving my opinion after watching the latest video.



Again, I couldn't care less how successful it is for Nintendo. I've never cared for Pokemon as characters in any of the Smash Bros. games.

Sounds to me like they're not over-represented, they're represented exactly the right amount and you just don't like them.

 

[sorakirosaki]

You serious? The hair looks really bad, and they even messed up her eye.

i thought her emblem could only be seen if u look like directly into her eye lol

 

[Firemind]

I have to admit I'm kind of bothered by the thread title. Makes it look like male Robin is default. Robin is a gender neutral name!

 

[BY2K]

Looking at reaction videos, I'm noticing that a lot of people don't know crap about Fire Emblem.

 

[CorvoSol]

I don't care for any of the Zelda characters. Doesn't mean I'm going to call it overrepresented.

Pokemon is one of Nintendo's most prominent franchises. It makes sense for it to have a lot of characters.

I actually think Zelda is underrepresented, considering how big of a deal the franchise is. Ought to have a fifth rep by now.

 

[OceanBlue]

I have to admit I'm kind of bothered by the thread title. Makes it look like male Robin is default. Robin is a gender neutral name!

To be fair, the intro trailer kinda implies that male Robin is the default.

 

[Toxi]

I actually think Zelda is underrepresented, considering how big of a deal the franchise is. Ought to have a fifth rep by now.

Sheik, Zelda, Link, Toon (Or young) Link, Ganondorf. It's had five reps since Melee.

 

[chickdigger802]

I actually think Zelda is underrepresented, considering how big of a deal the franchise is. Ought to have a fifth rep by now.

wishful thinking that because of WWHD, Toon Ganon could be possible


don't really care whos represented or not, give me new interesting characters with unique mechanics.

 

[Neiteio]

Looking at reaction videos, I'm noticing that a lot of people don't know crap about Fire Emblem.

Yeah, it's like Greninja all over again.

"WHO DAT"

"WHO IZ DAT"

"WHO DAT I SAY WHO DAT"

 

[daydream]

Hot damn, so many announcements! Female Robin, nice! :O

 

[leatherhat]

Yeah, it's like Greninja all over again.

"WHO DAT"

"WHO IZ DAT"

"WHO DAT I SAY WHO DAT"

Should have been Mewtwo

 

[Cuburt]

Robin brings the thunder!?

Too many thunder users now. Pichu/Pokemon loses slot to Robin/Fire Emblem

Preorder cancelled!

/sarcasm

 

[mrhej]

Looking at reaction videos, I'm noticing that a lot of people don't know crap about Fire Emblem.

The funny thing is I don't know shit about Fire Emblem but I'm still excited.

 

[Spinluck]

The Chrom FS model looks really good lol.

EDIT: I usually do not listen to who people think is over or under represented. There is usually some strong bias.

 

[James Scott]

I actually think Zelda is underrepresented, considering how big of a deal the franchise is. Ought to have a fifth rep by now.

Ganon and maybe something like Vaati or Ghirahim will probably be confirmed before launch...probably just Ganondorf.

Spoiler

And someone else will be let loose #believe

Link, Toon Link, Zelda, Shiek, Ganondorf

I count 5

Ganondorf isn't confirmed yet

 

[Boney]

I actually think Zelda is underrepresented, considering how big of a deal the franchise is. Ought to have a fifth rep by now.

Link, Toon Link, Zelda, Shiek, Ganondorf

I count 5

 

[superbank]

Golden Falcon. :O

I'd like to point out that his shirt button positions have been changed to not look like golden nipples. Preorder canceled.

 

[Vire]

Ganon and maybe something like Vaati or Ghirahim will probably be confirmed before launch...probably just Ganondorf.

Spoiler

And someone else will be let loose #believe

Ghirahim would be a really cool addition, would love that.

 

[entremet]

Who is that other dude in the video? Looks like Lucina's brother or something. I never played FE.

 

[leatherhat]

I actually think Zelda is underrepresented, considering how big of a deal the franchise is. Ought to have a fifth rep by now.

I would have loved if they replaced Toon link with Majora's mask link. He could switch between deku, goron and zoro forms with Fierce Deity as a final smash.

 

[Neiteio]

Golden Falcon. :O

I'd like to point out that his shirt button positions have been changed to not look like golden nipples. Preorder canceled.

It's not about the golden nipples on the outside

It's about the golden nipples, on the inside

 

[Solid SOAP]

I loved Awakening, so this is a nice surprise

 

[Crayolan]

Looking at reaction videos, I'm noticing that a lot of people don't know crap about Fire Emblem.

It's Japan's reaction to Little Mac all over again.

The funny thing is I don't know shit about Fire Emblem but I'm still excited.

Same here. Never heard of Robin before today, but we now have a badass looking magic user in smash and I'm excited to try him out.

 

[Face it Tiger..]

Man, ninty really couldn't tease any of these characters at evo.

Fucking hell.

 

[tim_pkmn89]

Who is that other dude in the video? Looks like Lucina's brother or something. I never played FE.

That's Captain Falcon. He's from an old racing series called F-Zero apparently.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

No joke I'll probably exclusively play as either villager or Robin while I play this game. Master the avatar.

 

[Spring-Loaded]

Did Lucina's mask show up in the trailer? Wonder if it's part of a taunt or stage entrance.

 

[PK Gaming]

Browsing through the thread, FE haters stay hating. Best Nintendo franchise gets best Nintendo treatment. I'm cruising on good vibes and good feelings. RIP in peace, Anna, but home-girl, you died for a good cause.

Robin will carry on her righteous legacy with the Levin Sword

 

[entremet]

That's Captain Falcon. He's from an old racing series called F-Zero apparently.

No, the other Fire Emblem like dude. The one in the trailer laying on the ground.

 

[789shadow]

No, the other Fire Emblem like dude. The one in the trailer laying on the ground.

Chrom, on of the main characters of Awakening.

 

[BassForever]

Did Lucina's mask show up in the trailer? Wonder if it's part of a taunt or stage entrance.

For sure it's her stage entrance, and I assume like Little Mac her alt will let her still wear her mask

 

[Cody_D165]

Golden Falcon. :O

I'd like to point out that his shirt button positions have been changed to not look like golden nipples. Preorder canceled.

I'm gonna use this color so hard

 

[SkyOdin]

If the Chorus Men turn out to be playable (which looks likely, based on Rhythm Heaven enemies in Smash Run), I'll say the second leak was legit, as well, but somehow got the bit about Chrom incorrect.

Well the second leak hasn't exactly had a good track record so far. The ones it had correct were also in the original leak. However, it had a generic "Pokemon from X/Y" listed which was useless as a prediction, and it got Chrom completely wrong.

I'm still inclined to think that the leaker is someone who saw some of the newcomer trailers early in the lead-up to E3, but doesn't have any direct access to the game's development. The second leak might be filled out by educated guesses rather than any real insider information.

The reason that the leaker claimed Shulk would be revealed today might be because the leaker saw the same Monolith Soft re-tweets everyone else picked up on. It was a good reason to expect Shulk to appear.

I actually think Shulk is going to be in, but I don't think that would be any reason to believe the leaker. I predicted Shulk on my roster prediction last year; it isn't really an unreasonable guess.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

This clearly means that SMT x FE and F-Zero for Wii U will be shown in the next Nintendo Direct.