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[Jorok Goldblade]

Including male and female versions of the same character as 2 entries:

Brings the roster up to 40 if you include male/female versions of the same character as 2 separate characters, meaning 12/40 are female, or 30%

This assumes that all the pokemon are inherently male. So far, we have yet to see a sigle-gender pokemon type.

The breakdown right now is:

20 male
8 female
4 select-able gender
4 Pokemon of non-specified gender

I'm also assuming for this that Yoshi is main-character Yoshi and not a representative of the Yoshi species.

 

[-Horizon-]

lucina is driving us apart

we have to share our waifu with care

You get your own waifu, she's mine!

...That could easily be her mom

That's kinky.

 

[kuroneko0509]

OST dress or bust

My wallpaper 1000% agrees with you

 

[Distresssss]

If Isaac isn't in the game I'm 100% going to main Lucina. I love the idea of a faster Marth and she is cool looking (as far as Fire Emblem Characters go).

 

[Beelzebufo]

Yep, he'll throw off his pink sweatshirt and reveal he had on another pink sweatshirt on underneath it, Little Mac is just that studly he wears two pink sweatshirts at the same time while training.

This is definitely less ridiculous than suggesting two characters that move exactly the same might be alts of one another lol.

So anyway, what do you guys think the F-Zero stage will be? They have zero new material.

This assumes that all the pokemon are inherently male. So far, we have yet to see a sigle-gender pokemon type.

The breakdown right now is:

20 male
9 female
4 select-able gender
4 Pokemon of non-specified gender

I'm also assuming for this that Yoshi is main-character Yoshi and not a representative of the Yoshi species.

Pikachu is male.

 

[Toxi]

Lucina seems to an alternate costume that will be implemented as a clone, or more accurately something partway in between a traditional Smash Bros. clone and a costume. Her attacks look much more similar to Marth's than any clone's ever has to the character they were pulling from (except maybe Pichu), to the point where the moves may actually be exact copies. But then she has her own voice acting and possibly some unique animations, and also will clearly have her own tile on the menu select.

Basically it seems like Sakurai's way to address his previously discussed aversion to making characters into costumes, without require the extra development work and time spent balancing that would be required of a traditional Smash clone. So she's basically a "free" character, and for once the clone thing is justified, given the canon.

Falco.

Plus, we've only seen five moves from her so far.

 

[SmithnCo]

Exactly lol, I don't even really think she'll be an alt, but it's definitely a possibility. I have no idea why this is such a personal issue for some people.

It's not a personal issue and nobody is hostile. You saying it is an issue is honestly condescending to everyone in the discussion. And a good sign that the argument is going to go nowhere productive.

Anyway, Robin is cool.

 

[OricWindstar]

Does anyone have a link to that like 20 minute Captain Falcon video with a bunch of modified Final Smashes?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QghzltwLm8

 

[Tathanen]

I'm super-sure we'll be getting a Lucina alt where she keeps the mask on, at least, ala jumpsuit Mac. I had always hoped there'd be a Marth alt where he just has that mask, but this is sure better!

 

[georly]

I'm hoping that's her alternate costume, too; just like little mac.

She takes off the mask to reveal another mask?

We can only hope.

Character intro:

Picture of the day

The pink sweatshirt looks really cool on Little Mac, so you can use that outfit in this game... How can a pink sweatshirt look so cool? Looks like some of you noticed that this version of Little Mac wasn't shown at E3. There are many things, like Link's Skyward Sword tunic design I posted earlier, that haven't been revealed yet.

 

[Jaeger]

So, when are we getting Wireframe and Sweatshirt Little Mac dedicated pages on the official site? Or Male Wii Fit Trainer dedicated pages? Alts are serious business, now.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

Lucina seems to an alternate costume that will be implemented as a clone, or more accurately something partway in between a traditional Smash Bros. clone and a costume. Her attacks look much more similar to Marth's than any clone's ever has to the character they were pulling from (except maybe Pichu), to the point where the moves may actually be exact copies. But then she has her own voice acting and possibly some unique animations, and also will clearly have her own tile on the menu select.

Basically it seems like Sakurai's way to address his previously discussed aversion to making characters into costumes, without require the extra development work and time spent balancing that would be required of a traditional Smash clone. So she's basically a "free" character, and for once the clone thing is justified, given the canon.

There's no evidence she's any different than toon link or falco. We've seen literally 5 of her moves in roughly 5 seconds of footage. She could be lighter and faster than marth for all we know.

However, there's absolutely 0% chance she's just an alt costume of Marth. The mental gymnastics needed to come to that conclusion are insane.

 

[BassForever]

If Isaac isn't in the game I'm 100% going to main Lucina. I love the idea of a faster Marth and she is cool looking (as far as Fire Emblem Characters go).

Don't you mean you'll main Marth?

 

[Spinluck]

How is this even a debate?

She is clearly going to have her own slot, or else, she wouldn't be in the game. Lol.

 

[Distresssss]

Don't you mean you'll main Marth?

Apparently I'm going to be maining a "costume."

 

[omegashockwave]

If Isaac isn't in the game I'm 100% going to main Lucina. I love the idea of a faster Marth and she is cool looking (as far as Fire Emblem Characters go).

Well technically Ike is a nickname for Isaac so...

Spoiler

Isaac will be an assist trophy, sorry

 

[Busaiku]

4 Pokemon of non-specified gender

Pikachu is male.

 

[MrSaturn99]

You get your own waifu, she's mine!

FINE lissa is cuter anyway

 

[-Horizon-]

Apparently I'm going to be maining a "costume."

That's my waifu you're talking about!

 

[Zubz]

I also re-arranged the bottom row to include all the dead franchises

Spoiler

I'm sorry

Yeah, but at least there's still SOME life down there!

Also, huge surprise here, but I'm totally cool with it! Just means more room for Ridley.

Spoiler

And he needs a lot.

The only downside is that, out of every character I didn't want playable, FE:A Avatar was literally the only one. Well, until this morning. Then it became Robin & The Raving Rabbids. Here's hoping we just get Rayman down the line instead.

 

[Spring-Loaded]

We can only hope.

Character intro:

Picture of the day

Damn, what if she can wear it in-game and one of the taunts is her tossing the mask off.

And it does 1% damage if it hits someone

 

[Tazz]

The real reason Sakurai decided to reveal Captain Falcon with the Fire Emblem characters: http://youtu.be/37ER1zpg_F4

 

[Beelzebufo]

So, when are we getting Wireframe and Sweatshirt Little Mac dedicated pages on the official site? Or Male Wii Fit Trainer dedicated pages? Alts are serious business, now.

Wireframe Mac is a texture swap, not an alt. Those other characters don't get new pages because they're the same character still. It's not very hard to understand.

We can only hope.

Character intro:

Picture of the day

Do you think that quote was teasing Lucina? It could have been.

 

[jph139]

Lucina being a lighter/faster Marth would certainly explain why he feels much more sluggish this time around.

 

[FloweryMarston]

gematsu leak got destroyed as it should have since rosalina.
lucina gets her OWN slot, get wrecked nay sayers
more FE representation
captain falcon is back

why is sakurai so based?

 

[SmithnCo]

We can only hope.

Character intro:

I hope when he has the sweatsuit, his intro is reversed so that it descends from the sky and envelops him.

 

[Troubled Bat]

Have you seen all of her moves? I saw uair, nair, up B, and side B. (Did I miss any? Please correct me if so.)

I think she was doing a counter at the end. Same way as Marth, of course.

 

[MrSaturn99]

Yeah, but at least there's still SOME life down there!

LMAO WHAT IS THAT?

 

[BassForever]

That's his intro? Oh then they don't even need to change it if Little Mac wears the pink sweat shirt, he can just do his pose and not throw/have the sweat shirt disappear

Just further proves that Lucina is her own slot

 

[Mr. Smiley]

Lucina being a lighter/faster Marth would certainly explain why he feels much more sluggish this time around.

Malarkey! Why should Marth get the Roy circumcision?

 

[Distresssss]

That's my waifu you're talking about!

I was actually the first person in any smash Gaf thread to actually call dibs so...

And we all know the power of dibs.

 

[Beelzebufo]

gematsu leak got destroyed as it should have since rosalina.
lucina gets her OWN slot, get wrecked nay sayers
more FE representation
captain falcon is back

why is sakurai so based?

Actually, we're not quite sure what Lucina's situation is. She might not actually have her own slot. And most people are still expecting Shulk and Chorus Kids.

 

[Aβydoς]

I love Jay Douglas' new design, he looks older and even more badass.

 

[kuroneko0509]

was this posted before? :lol
EDIT: woops ignore me

 

[Busaiku]

I wonder if it's too late for Pikachu to get cosplay.
Though I guess I'd get it as DLC.

 

[Warchamp7]

Look, when someone tells me why they didn't just do this:

Then I'll get off the 'Lucina Marth Alt' train.

Until then, choo choo

 

[exfatal]

EDIT: Wait person were saying she's an alt for marth? Yeah, fuck that noise.

there fixed that for you, and also who else here has renewed hope for Issac!!

Spoiler

or Matthew..

 

[georly]

I hope when he has the sweatsuit, his intro is reversed so that it descends from the sky and envelops him.

HAHA

 

[BY2K]

That's his intro? Oh then they don't even need to change it if Little Mac wears the pink sweat shirt, he can just do his pose and not throw/have the sweat shirt disappear

Just further proves that Lucina is her own slot

What's up with his arm!?

 

[Aaronrules380]

Actually, I'm not quite sure what Lucina's situation is. She might not actually have her own slot. And most people are still expecting Shulk and Chorus Kids.

Fixed

 

[Toxi]

This "Lucina is an alt" discussion is the stupidest thing I've ever read in a Smash OT, and I've read a lot of stupid things.

 

[Beelzebufo]

there fixed that for you, and also who else here has renewed hope for Issac!!

Spoiler

or Matthew..

Dude, I'm definitely not the only one, and I'm not even saying it's a sure thing. Come on now.

Fixed

I doubt anyone else on this board has the final game

 

[SmithnCo]

HAHA

LOL

 

[OrangeGrayBlue]

The more I think about it, the funnier I find it to be that the "canon" for why Chrom isn't playable in Smash Bros 4 is because Captain Falcon incapacitated him.

 

[Vashzaron]

Lmao just imagine if Z character got it's own character select slot but was exactly the same as Y gameplay-wise.

There would be no agreement if it's an Alt or Clone.

 

[BassForever]

gematsu leak got destroyed as it should have since rosalina.
lucina gets her OWN slot, get wrecked nay sayers
more FE representation
captain falcon is back

why is sakurai so based?

At that time we only had one leak that said "these are the e3 reveals", all 6 of those characters have been 100% confirmed, the first leak is genuine regardless of how wrecked the second leak is.

 

[kuroneko0509]

HAHA

:lol

 

[mentallyinept]

Look, when someone tells me why they didn't just do this:

Then I'll get off the 'Lucina Marth Alt' train.

Until then, choo choo

Open the Smash Bros. page on your smartphone.

You will see what you desire.

 

[Busaiku]

Male Wii Fit Trainer and Female Villager didn't get their own boxes.

 

[Azure J]

Lucina being a lighter/faster Marth would certainly explain why he feels much more sluggish this time around.

The only reason I'd have to be upset about Lucina's inclusion. Lucina mains would instantly become the Pink Gold Peach mains of Smash and move up the hit list for the One True King Marf.