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[-Horizon-]

Just so we are clear, in that episode Homer learns the duel consists of shooting his opponent and doesn't do it right? Either way I remember him losing.

I'm all for it then.

Quiet you, I only have so many slapping gifs to use!

 

[balladofwindfishes]

And even on the mobile version (and on her character page), there's no art! It's really strange all around.

Mii doesn't have art either. Mii is an alt of Mario, confirmed!

 

[Busaiku]

But his phone is just an alt of his computer.

Oh my days.

 

[Beelzebufo]

-_-

... This is true. His model doesn't change at all, just textures.

Mii doesn't have art either. Mii is an alt of Mario, confirmed!

Miis also aren't really "full" characters. They aren't even playable in most modes. Maybe Lucina isn't a "full" character either?

 

[MrSaturn99]

A toy for the new Pac-Man cartoon. That green stuff is edible slime.

 

[PKrockin]

lol

Anyway, the argument has run its course. It's literally everybody vs. one poster.

I'm also of the opinion she could be an alt, but I'm just smart enough not to continue the argument when it literally doesn't matter a bit. Don't know what you guys got so worked up about that some people want him banned. Sheesh.

 

[HawthorneKitty]

Didn't know that... that is quite odd.

Not really; it should be a standard for any competent website IMO.

 

[SoaringDive]

Didn't Sakurai state in an interview that he wouldn't do alt. costumes that made them an entirely different character?

 

[georly]

The real reason Sakurai decided to reveal Captain Falcon with the Fire Emblem characters: http://youtu.be/37ER1zpg_F4

Someone needs to recut today's trailer to use this version of the song.

 

[diaspora]

He did it. He actually put one of the worst FE leads ever into Smash. And she's a fucking clone. Smh.

 

[Jaeger]

I predicted someone would do that. I think you missed my point by reading only the first sentence.

Yea, I read it. Just having some fun with all this Alternate Costume talk.

 

[SmithnCo]

Wow I cant believe the leak didnt pan out. This is crazy. Lucinas model looks really bad tho.
Can someone post the supposed 4chan Rabbids rumor?

 

[Beelzebufo]

I'm also of the opinion she could be an alt, but I'm just smart enough not to continue the argument when it literally doesn't matter a bit. Don't know what you guys got so worked up about that some people want him banned. Sheesh.

Wait, people want me banned? Why? I haven't seen any of that. That's ridiculous if true, it's a legitimate issue about the trailer we saw today. And like you said, I'm definitely not the only one.

At any rate, it's better than "Too many Fire Emblem characters".

 

[The Great Gonzales]

Miis also aren't really "full" characters. They aren't even playable in most modes. Maybe Lucina isn't a "full" character either?

The only mode they're unplayable in is online with anyone. That's hardly "most modes."

 

[Tathanen]

Yeah, even if she does get her own slot it's going to be a weird character, like a fake character or something. It's really a strange situation.

Dr. Mario, Falco, Roy, Pichu confirmed as weird and fake.

 

[theprodigy]

He did it. He actually put one of the worst FE leads ever into Smash. And she's a fucking clone. Smh.

I wasn't aware Chrom was playable

 

[omegashockwave]

And even on the mobile version (and on her character page), there's no art! It's really strange all around.

It definitely is. That said, the Mii fighters also don't have any art, and they're a new character too.

 

[BassForever]

Link to this rabbids rumor?

 

[diaspora]

Didn't Sakurai state in an interview that he wouldn't do alt. costumes that made them an entirely different character?

Lucina's a clone, she's not an entirely different character.

I wasn't aware Chrom was playable

Is Chrom a she? No. At least Anna is a proper FE rep having been in most games in the series.

 

[Distresssss]

Quiet you, I only have so many slapping gifs to use!

I guess now we just have to.. Share?


I'm hyped for this game again now.

 

[Beelzebufo]

Dr. Mario, Falco, Roy, Pichu confirmed as weird and fake.

They have distinctions from the originals, so not really.

The only mode they're unplayable in is online with anyone. That's hardly "most modes."

They're also not playable when customization is off. They also don't have their own symbol or anything. I think they're pretty clearly meant to be an extra.

 

[mentallyinept]

Not really; it should be a standard for any competent website IMO.

It's not odd that the website adjusts itself, it's odd that they decided not to give her the full newcomer rectangle when the website is self-adjusting.

Spoiler

sorry for the confusion.

 

[greycolumbus]

On both sides? I think it's safe to say all the hostility is on the "100-0 she's a clone" side.

Damn, that's hostile.

 

[Mr. Smiley]

I'm also of the opinion she could be an alt, but I'm just smart enough not to continue the argument when it literally doesn't matter a bit. Don't know what you guys got so worked up about that some people want him banned. Sheesh.

No one wants or cares for him to get banned. Stop trying to make this a bigger, personal issue than it is.

 

[SmithnCo]

I'm also of the opinion she could be an alt, but I'm just smart enough not to continue the argument when it literally doesn't matter a bit. Don't know what you guys got so worked up about that some people want him banned. Sheesh.

It does matter in that clones have different properties to their moves, speed, percentage, hitboxes, etc. An alt would just be Marth with a different skin. So it would preferably be a clone for the gameplay variety.

Also, nobody wants him banned, lol.

 

[Linkhero1]

I'm left wondering how many surprise unlockable characters will be left for us to discover on our own in the 3DS game. I'm also thinking this will be a huge ass roster in the end.

 

[Waluigilicious]

We've had a Fire Emblem clone before, and it's fine if we have it again. The only clone I'm against is Ganondorf/Captain Falcon

 

[PKrockin]

Wait, people want me banned? Why? I haven't seen any of that. That's ridiculous if true, it's a legitimate issue about the trailer we saw today. And like you said, I'm definitely not the only one.

At any rate, it's better than "Too many Fire Emblem characters".

I agree it's stupid, but nothing came of it, so let's just forget about it and talk about something else.

 

[Berordn]

I'm left wondering how many surprise unlockable characters will be left for us to discover on our own in the 3DS game.

Characters: 0 unlockables
Everything else: a billion unlockables

 

[Distresssss]

I'm left wondering how many surprise unlockable characters will be left for us to discover on our own in the 3DS game.

None because Japan will unlock them all first and spoil the fun.

 

[User 73706]

Dr. Mario, Falco, Roy, Pichu confirmed as weird and fake.

Well to be fair...

 

[rawktapus]

Lucina's a clone, she's not an entirely different character.

I don't think he means "fighting style" character, but rather, "unique individual" character. Like, even though Fox and Falco were clones in Melee, they each had their own selectable space and are considered seperate characters.

 

[Toxi]

I don't really like how there are so many generic anime looking faces in the game. It's not that I'm against the anime style, but I feel like they needed to gear those types of characters(Fire Emblem guys, Palutena, Zero Suit, and possibly others) towards the original art they were taken from. Instead they seem to be trying to match that genre of character to one bland anime-ish face look. Smash Bros is supposed to be about different aesthetics and art styles all being juxtaposed besides each other. I think this art direction they've gone for with these types of characters is just a little too boring and it's making characters from completely different franchises look like they belong in the same universe/world together. I have no complaints about most characters and how they've stylized and rendered them and they've actually done a pretty good job with most characters. Just kind of upset that the FE guys/girls don't look enough like the great art style they originated from :/

I'm not fond of the movement towards a more anime art style in Metroid in general. If you look at Super Metroid's aesthetics and compare them to Zero Mission's, it feels like something was lost by making them so cartoony.

 

[Starfish Hero]

Link to this rabbids rumor?

I don't think it was a fleshed out rumor, just speculation between the Rayman trophy and the character reveal.

 

[georly]

They're also not playable when customization is off. They also don't have their own symbol or anything. I think they're pretty clearly meant to be an extra.

That's news to me. Source?

 

[Tathanen]

They have distinctions from the originals, so not really.

Lucina's Up-B in the trailer is different from Marth's. It travels on a different angle and seems to cut in a different way.

Discussion over.

 

[PadWarrior]

Don't you mean you'll main Marth?

Apparently I'm going to be maining a "costume."

Lol!!

 

[Speedwagon]

What if Lucina is the Pichu of Marth?

 

[Beelzebufo]

That's news to me. Source?

http://www.smashbros.com/us/howto/entry2.html

Mii Fighters use custom parts, and have no default moveset.

Lucina's Up-B in the trailer is different from Marth's. It travels on a different angle and seems to cut in a different way.

Discussion over.

It doesn't though. It's exactly the same.

 

[Kriken]

Quiet you, I only have so many slapping gifs to use!

Problem solved, keep Horizon out of arm's length

Spoiler

I wish I had a better gif

 

[Hatchtag]

I'm wondering if we're going to have anymore random veteran reveals. The last one we had was in May, and it seems likely we're going to get a new video in August and possibly early September. I'm guessing whoever's left that they want to reveal will just be integrated into those videos.

 

[Baron von Loathsome]

What if Lucina is the Pichu of Marth?

Don't even joke like that.

 

[-Horizon-]

He did it. He actually put one of the worst FE leads ever into Smash. And she's a fucking clone. Smh.

ok

I guess now we just have to.. Share?


I'm hyped for this game again now.

First we have to get her back from Palutena!

 

[Mr. Smiley]

What if Lucina is the Pichu of Marth?

We already had Roy.

 

[Azure J]

I almost forgot, someone showed me this during this past EVO weekend.

Spoiler

I lost it at Tricky.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

They're also not playable when customization is off.

Source?

 

[Spinluck]

This has me thinking very deep thoughts... thoughts beyond video games... beyond Smash Bros.

Am I an alt of my brother...? Are we all alts of each other... ? I don't think I want this game anymore. Life is short and pointless. We are all headed down the same path.

 

[diaspora]

I don't think he means "fighting style" character, but rather, "unique individual" character. Like, even though Fox and Falco were clones in Melee, they each had their own selectable space and are considered seperate characters.

IIRC, Sakurai's reasoning for no transformations was to prevent one character from turning into a radically different one. Lucina is Marth with less of a personality and longer hair.

 

[Neoxon]

So what's the consensus on Lucina? Clone or alt?

 

[Qurupeke]

We've had a Fire Emblem clone before, and it's fine if we have it again. The only close I'm against is Ganondorf/Captain Falcon

Is Lucina indeed a clone? In any case, I'm completely fine with it. I'm against clones, even to something like Lucas and Ness but she seems perfect. She is a character that needs to be like Marth.