Vivian from TTYD
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Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 10: Against the Odds, We Choose to Hype!
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Captain Syrup was in Wario Land Shake It on Wii, right?
Maybe you guys aren't so crazy after all
Maybe you guys aren't so crazy after all
Irony is the only Smash discussion going on is in response to the topic I started about possible new female characters in Smash, lolshunxsato said:
there's nothing "ethnocentric," relax
Vivian is a she.
JediLink
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Oh dear...Vivian from TTYD
ArchedThunder
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Forgot about Captain Syrup. Would be pretty neat and would be another villain.
It's too bad Dark Samus was confirmed for assist trophy, that would be another female villain.
I would consider Dark Samus genderless.
They could easily have 5 reps.
And to think that all we had in Melee and Brawl were the standard trio of Samus, Peach, and Zelda and sometimes along with Jigglypuff and half an Ice Climber.
MaverickHunterAsh
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Wow, really late pic today. That means it's probably filler, though. 
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
You should go get a drink.Wow, really late pic today. That means it's probably filler, though.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
We seriously burnt up 1/4th already? lol
She was a "she" in the English version, right? If so, that's canon to me.
Wow, really late pic today. That means it's probably filler, though.
3DS pic, yes.
stop
Dimitri LH
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I TRUSTED YOU SMASH GAF! ;-; Quit toying with me.
7-11
What in heavens name.....that looks tempting.
I think
ON TOPIC: I WOULD LOVE VIVIAN IN SMASH <3
Dagobert Duck
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Wow, really late pic today. That means it's probably filler, though.
My prediction is a megaman-item!
She's a she in every version. The circumstances are a little different in the English version because of censorship.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Wow, really late pic today. That means it's probably filler, though.
It's more likely.
Give Famicom Detective Club a try if you can. The second game was fan-translated a long time ago by the same guy who translated Mother 3. Good times.
Pop-O-Matic
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Vivian from TTYD
This is not gonna end well...
Transgender =/= Transvestite
ArchedThunder
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She was a trans-girl in the Japanese version, that still makes her a she.
She's a she both physically and gender identity-wise, is what I was getting at
Poltergust
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Slowly but surely, Palutena is making that dream a reality
I saw this earlier. Love how the Mii Swordfighter is Nikki.
RIP in peace, Swapnote. =(
SUPERJEM94
Banned
What if there is no pic of the day today?!
8 X 11 Printer Paper
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Yeah forgot about the whole gender debate about her...in my defense it has been a good 9 years since I've last played.
Jill Valentine sandwiches herself into the competition.
ArchedThunder
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Oh boy...
OrangeGrayBlue
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Vivian from TTYD
I would love this.
SenorArdilla
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Dimitri LH
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Uh oh......POISON FOR SMASH!?
ill stop
JediLink
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Regardless of whether of not she may be hiding a penis, if she identifies as female, then it's proper to regard her as female either way.
She was a "she" in all versions. She was censored in the North American version of the game, but she identifies as a girl in the non-ENG versions too.
EDIT: Wait a sec, you said the same thing last time too!
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
What if there is no pic of the day today?!
I seriously doubt that.
Look at that delicious green grape.
Which one? The one from Pac-man or the one with the stripes?
Fun fact: both grapes and melons are berries! Strawberries, raspberries, and blackberries are not!
The Great Gonzales
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It's a little more complicated than that. In the Japanese version, Vivian is described as "one of the Shadow Trio, Vivian appears to be a girl but is really a boy," and Goombella says, "that's Vivian. Of the Shadow Trio, she's the youngest sister... er, brother." But then, at the end, apparently Beldam and Marilyn start identifying her as female. The English version eliminates all the back-and-forth and just says she's female throughout.
Lore too complex.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
She identify's as a she regardless
Of course. I'm just saying that in the English version, there's nothing to suggest such a backstory, so to me, she's mentally and physically female.
Vivian would make an awesome female addition to the cast.
Where the is regular Samus?
Slowly but surely, Palutena is making that dream a reality
Where the is regular Samus?
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
omg I didnt know that, how come he didnt do the first game? And also did anyone else translate the first game
Yeah, the terminology is still not really common knowledge. I don't think many people realize the distinction between being one gender physically, another mentally, etc., and the proper terminology for each combination. I'm not sure I have the terms right myself.
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