I'm disappointed to be honest. I've been concerned ever since we saw the original footage and these pictures do little to convince me it's worth buying again.
Jumping in to the graphics debate; I think both God of War 3 and Uncharted 2 looked more pleasing on the eye than TLoU.
Never as bad as The Last of Us though. Only happened in one area for me as well, that didn't look so hot anyway. All of the insane parts ran pretty flawlessly while TLoU often takes a dip. Not that it really matters, both are great technical achievements on their hardware.Beyond: Two Souls - Definitely, but ran like crap in a lot of areas
You picked the wrong image, because this one has great IQ [which was the point of the TLOU Remaster image discussion]. Just 1 year ago, 99% of us here would call this Infamous screenshot as pure bullshot.
Looks good, maybe not 50$ good or TRE good (yep, i said it)
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The IQ in Infamous is great, but it's not perfect like the TLOU screens in the OP, as that screen shows.
I never said it was bad.
No jaggies on power lines confirmed!
Actual gameplay shots of Infamous do show little bits of aliasing here and there. Its nothing super noticeable, but its there. Certainly not 'perfect'. I'm not sure 'perfect' is possible at 1080p without an incredible amount of AA in general. Just a limitation of the resolution and the PS4 hardware.But some screenshots of ISS indeed have perfect IQ. ND could have hand-picked the similar set of HQ screens for TLOU Remaster promotion.
This is GAF man. We are all grasping for even smallest of chances.
I am not, I will be happy no matter what the IQ is.
Looks like the Ps3 game with higher resolution to me.
Nothing to get excited about (imo!!!)
I'm speechless. Even if the power lines are a little jagged, do you really care enough to complain? Will it detract from your experience enough to not buy the game because some black lines 10 meters higher than your head are jagged? Christ, Gaf!![]()
People actually think that those photos are bullshots?
After inFAMOUS: Second Son, I don't doubt that the PS4 could run a PS3 game (emphasis on PS3), at 1080p/60fps, with some solid anti-aliasing and improved textures. I can understand the skepticism for the Uncharted 4 trailer, but TLOU Remastered? What?
It's not like we're seeing a graphical paradigm shift with TLOU:R. It's just an updated PS3 game, running on vastly superior hardware than a PS3.
Ha.Man, those comparisons. I feel like you could even add WELCOME TO PC GAMING to them, it's that good.
Ha.
A PC gamer only needs to buy a game once.
And they can do it with pretty much every game, not just the select ones that a manufacturer decides to 'remaster'.
I'm glad Sony are doing this, but don't get carried away here. This is everyday stuff on the PC, and without having to rebuy anything.
Sony hasn't 'bullshot' us yet with the PS4, so I can give them the benefit of the doubt here.
Ha.
A PC gamer only needs to buy a game once.
And they can do it with pretty much every game, not just the select ones that a manufacturer decides to 'remaster'.
I'm glad Sony are doing this, but don't get carried away here. This is everyday stuff on the PC, and without having to rebuy anything.
I don't know what you mean by that. I've seen plenty of downsampled shots of PS4 games.
But Naughty Dog have also been known to downsample screenshots for promoting their games so there's that.
Anyways, you can just analyze the images a bit. The powerlines are pretty much a dead giveaway. The bit of ringing around the edges implies there's a bit of sharpening in the downsampling algorithm.
The amount of AA required at 1080p for this IQ would be insane. But that's the last I'll comment on it until people post their own shots in the console screenshot thread.
Also, while Infamous does look damn good, you can still notice subpixel, shader, and even edge aliasing in some shots. They don't really compare to the perfectly clean downsampled shots prior to release.
It was especially weird with Second Son because they didn't even bother hiding it, you could easily find the 4K shots around.
How can people not recognize how better the PS4 version looks. The PS3 version is fucking ugly on a 1080p screen. The image quality is garbage, there are jaggies everywhere, lots of smear looking textures. Its a game that had a very technically impressive base but tried to much on limited hardware. The PS4 version is going to literally fix everything wrong with the PS3 version. The IQ alone will make a staggering difference.
Actual gameplay shots of Infamous do show little bits of aliasing here and there. Its nothing super noticeable, but its there. Certainly not 'perfect'. I'm not sure 'perfect' is possible at 1080p without an incredible amount of AA in general. Just a limitation of the resolution and the PS4 hardware.
That said, TLOU isn't as graphically impressive as Infamous is. They could afford to go a bit more extreme with the AA solutions.
Sony hasn't 'bullshot' us yet with the PS4, so I can give them the benefit of the doubt here.
But BioShock 1 looks better in 4k than 1080p... same for Ryse if they for example use a PC to run it at 1080p with the same XB1 assets.1080p doesn't automatically make a game look better than every 900p game.
Bioshock 1 at 4k still doesn't look as good as Infamous at 1080p. There's more to graphics than resolution.
Well, you say its a given, but I'm not sure many console gamers quite appreciate this aspect of PC gaming.Also, the sky is blue. It's a given but honestly has little place in this particular thread. It wasn't you who brought it up but things like that are the last things I expected in this thread.
I guess I've just missed those.I don't know what you mean by that. I've seen plenty of downsampled shots of PS4 games.
Read the post I responded to for context.But BioShock 1 looks better in 4k than 1080p... same for Ryse if they for example use a PC to run it at 1080p with the same XB1 assets.
I'm speechless. Even if the power lines are a little jagged, do you really care enough to complain? Will it detract from your experience enough to not buy the game because some black lines 10 meters higher than your head are jagged? Christ, Gaf!![]()
1080p doesn't automatically make a game look better than every 900p game.
Bioshock 1 at 4k still doesn't look as good as Infamous at 1080p. There's more to graphics than resolution.
I was specifically addressing the 'plus' part of it. It wasn't the only thing he said, but that part of it was misleading/inaccurate. A game doesn't automatically look worse than another game because it has a slightly lower resolution.Nor does it mean nothing. That's why he said, "Plus...". It was an added detail, not the only.
lol jakes on you, shadow fall actually looks like that son.
It does. The resolution on Sony's screenshot is crazy high thoughlol jakes on you, shadow fall actually looks like that son.
Ha.
A PC gamer only needs to buy a game once.
And they can do it with pretty much every game, not just the select ones that a manufacturer decides to 'remaster'.
I'm glad Sony are doing this, but don't get carried away here. This is everyday stuff on the PC, and without having to rebuy anything.
Well, you say its a given, but I'm not sure many console gamers quite appreciate this aspect of PC gaming.
Well, you say its a given, but I'm not sure many console gamers quite appreciate this aspect of PC gaming.
I guess I've just missed those.
Read the post I responded to for context.
lol jakes on you, shadow fall actually looks like that son.
Yea, and you have to buy a PS4 to get this 'remastered' version of TLOU.I would not have chimed in but you brought it up.... Console gamers cannot appreciate it because it is not true..... You may only have to buy a game once but you do have to rebuy several things to get better performance out of the same game which is generally a lot more than $50usd. I have a very hefty rig myself but my wife is using my hand me down graphics card (HD 7790) because it simply would not give me the performance I wanted on newer games. So yes some of the same games I purchased run much better but only after a few hundred dollar investment. There are pros and cons to Console just as there are to PC. Lets not get carried away here.