Tom Nook Sawyer
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Since the videos are done, it's entirely possible. Although coordinating that with the website updates might throw a slight wrench into the works
Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 10: Against the Odds, We Choose to Hype!
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Since the videos are done, it's entirely possible. Although coordinating that with the website updates might throw a slight wrench into the works
When did we become go to sources for Smash news over Smashboards? :lol
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Yeah, I just noticed that but there is one or two members that verified that it was mistranslation.
I wonder if there is any missing page because Ryce is one that found those informations.
Green Mamba
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Yeah, every source I'm seeing that claims that there is no mention of a character being cut in the scan all source the same post here in this topic. Similarly the opposite.
I have no idea what to believe right now.
I have no idea what to believe right now.
kuroneko0509
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oh dear GAF<internet<GAF again
PadWarrior
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May the force be with you over there.
Just to make sure it's clear, I only looked at the very small excerpt that was posted (with the red text). I haven't had the chance to look at the big scans either.
(In case people start going crazy... heh)
Mr. Smiley
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The cycle is overloaded. The information is corrupt.
Storm Kyleis
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If it's credible and I had to guess, I'd say Rayman was cut. There was a deal between Nintendo and Ubisoft back in 2012, they made Rayman Legends and ZombiU as Wii U exclusives, plus various ports like Assassin's Creed 3. It was basically the same relationship they have now with Sega and Sonic.
They also had a 3D model ready, made specifically for Smash, which is now relegated to the first and (so far) only third party trophy.
I can't imagine a problem that could lead to Chrom being cut. "Being a clone" isn't a problem, because he was replaced by a clone. He's popular enough if they decided to include him in the first place. Maybe Lucina is more popular, but this character wasn't cut because of her -- she was added because this character was cut.
Also, on a side note, if they had to create a new clone to fill the void... does this mean every old clone (Lucas, Wolf) was already back?
Professor Beef
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Techie: Talking doll, take eight.
Lisa: "When I get married, I'm keeping my own name." Oh, no, that should probably be "If I choose to get married."
Techie: Uh, look, little girl, we got other talking dollies to record today.
Krusty: [barging in with cue cards] All right, you poindexters, let's get this right!
One: "Hey, hey, kids, I'm Talking Krusty."
Two: "Hey, hey, here comes Slideshow Mel" -- again -- "Here comes Sideshow Mel. Sideshow Mel."
Three: [does a Krusty laugh]
Badda-bing, badda-boom, I'm done. Learn from a professional, kid. [walks out, tires screech away]
Techie: OK, Krusty, we are ready to roll any -- what the...?
theprodigy
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It never stops!
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Yeah, CAW Evolution aka Ryce. He usually don't get information wrong.
I still think we are since there's a Rhythm Heaven enemy that was spotted in Smash Run.
Although the same logic can be used for King K. Rool since the Kremlings are in Smash Run.
haha yea. Especially with his [reading intensifies] look. I wonder though if Nosferatu will temporarily stun opponents or was it just for show in the trailer.
Red Arremer
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Our point is that there goes a lot more than just "an hour" (or even "10 minutes") into voice acting, even if it is just a few grunts.
It's not only the speed that has to suit the lip movement of the character if applicable, but also delivery and the director's vision. Additionally to that every voice actor records multiple takes of the same sentence with slightly different intonations because sometimes a voice sample sounds much better in the studio than it does in the final product (and vice versa).
That doesn't of course even consider the aspects of audio mixing, implementing the sound files into the game and programming the code to play the soundfiles at the certain points. This is all things that Lucina already had present as a Marth alt costume.
I've worked in the field before as an audio engineer, and was also interested in professional voice acting myself. It is an incredibly exhausting and detailed job, and saying "well, I'm just so good I could do it in 10 minutes" is also pretty disrespectful towards the people who do this. There's a reason why Japanese voice actors are as popular as movie/music/TV stars in Japan.
And while Roy would've been not as much work as a completely unique character made from the ground up in terms of moveset programming, and have lighter work in terms of animations, he would've been as much work in basically every other regard beyond those 2 aspects.
Tom Nook Sawyer
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But there are already Kremling-source representations, being Donkey Kong and Diddy. Rhythm Heaven has no such character yet, so I would disagree the logic applies to K.Rool.
Particularly as Kremlings have also appeared in Mario spin-off games, like Strikers.
And he got that information from people talking on japanese bulletin boards rather than an actual source, correct?
I'm going to believe bankslammer until any further information (i.e. the bit about a cut character being on a different page or something) arises.
The Great Gonzales
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The difference is, Kremlings already have two confirmed characters from their series - DK and Diddy. Those could be the only two DK characters, and nothing would be amiss. But Rhythm Heaven doesn't have any playable characters confirmed yet, so it would be strange to have just the enemies without a rep on the roster.
The leaker never specifically said that the next newcomer to be revealed is blank until he predicted Shulk. The leaker just listed a few characters every so often. Maybe Sora disseminated wrong information internally to the Smash teams to narrow down where the leak is coming from? I'm sure they're aware of the Gematsu list by now.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I don't really care about Gematsu Leak, but I'm more concerned about cut character, etc.
Donkey Kong and Diddy Kong are in the game, so it's not necessary to have K Rool to include those Kremlings in the game.
Exactly. Every enemy in Smash Run is from a series that has a playable character on the roster. The only one we haven't seen a playable character for yet is Rhythm Heaven. Since a Rhythm Heaven is in Smash Run, it stands to reason there will be a playable character from Rhythm Heaven.
Whether it's Chorus Men as foretold in the Gematsu leak, or Marshall as foretold in the GameFAQs rumor correcting the Gematsu leak, or something else altogether, remains to be seen. And of course, there's always the possibility Sakurai just threw in an RH enemy without any playable reps from that series, but I'd say it's unlikely.
The difference with that, however, is that Kremlings are representatives of the Donkey Kong Franchise. Rhythm Heaven enemy is the only representation of the series so far, so Chorus Boy's chances sort of shoot up.
Of course that may not be the case, either. SmashVille in Brawl represented Animal Crossing without there being an Animal Crossing playable character, etc.
Edit: Mega Beat.
Oh, huh, didn't realize that. What about the polar bear?
I know, I know, Ice Climbers ain't cut.
Storm Kyleis
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Real or not, I think he mentioned Shulk just because everyone else assumed he was the next newcomer.
Kor of Memory
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Technicality I know, but we haven't seen Ice climbers yet, but we've seen the polar bear.
Did the retweet from the xenoblade writer come before or after the leaker saying it would be shulk.
Because I could see him seeing that and thinking it was a sure thing in place of actual knowledge of what was happening.
Tom Nook Sawyer
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JB-the-Hunter
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Yeah, I'm guessing it was more "I know Shulk is in the game and it's safe to assume he'll be revealed tomorrow, so enjoy." and less "Shulk is being revealed tomorrow, enjoy."
The Great Gonzales
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Yep. Many, many people were totally convinced Shulk would be revealed because of the Monolith retweet. The alleged leak came after all that, which makes me think the "leaker" just made it up because he thought he was safe.
foxuzamaki
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what info did ryce get?
Red Arremer
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But do we know that an enemy in Smash Run automatically means a playable character? That is just an assumption, after all. I doubt we know the entire enemy roster of Smash Run so far, and even if we do, there's been precedent of series that don't have a playable character tied to them being represented in stages, assist trophies, trophies, usable items, music and stickers in the past 3 games.
theprodigy
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I don't get this, I swear this exact thing has happened before....
kuroneko0509
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Famitsu scans, there's 3 where 2 covering about the 3 characters while last one just a text excerpt where it saying some stuff about Lucina.
Thanks Kuroneko, I'll google for it.
You mean when sakurai tweeted that sword, and people just assumed shulk in smash?
You mean when sakurai tweeted that sword, and people just assumed shulk in smash?
Tom Nook Sawyer
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With Little Mac and Next level Games, in which case it was accurate. So, huh?
Tathanen
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I cannot believe the mental gymnastics some of you are going through to explain why the leak could be wrong and still right. It's like you all have some kind of stake in its legitimacy, and are desperately trying to not lose face.
Just let it be bullshit. You should all be so much more skeptical than this, by default. Do not try to help out this random internet troll and convert his lies into misunderstandings for him.
Just let it be bullshit. You should all be so much more skeptical than this, by default. Do not try to help out this random internet troll and convert his lies into misunderstandings for him.
JB-the-Hunter
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We don't know that for sure, but why include a Rhythm Heaven enemy in Smash Run if there aren't any playable characters? It's not really a series that lends itself well to enemies. Sneaky Spirit seems forced due to a playable rep.
I can agree with that. He may have seen all the hubbub over the Xenoblade dev retweeting the character trailer announcement despite the dev always retweeting Smash announcement info.
I tend to side with the leak being real as both Melee and Brawl had their rosters leaked. Fighting games in general can't keep rosters a secret. We're getting close to release and it's crazy that we don't know the full roster even now.
Cosmic Dreams
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Tried to keep it as
MrSaturn99
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They're one and the same? I had no idea.
Tried to keep it as realistic as possible here. I also did my best to arrange characters as I would imagine they would be arranged. Random at the end of course. lol
I love Mother, but there's no way we're getting a third character.
QUOTE=Tathanen;121325146]I cannot believe the mental gymnastics some of you are going through to explain why the leak could be wrong and still right. It's like you all have some kind of stake in its legitimacy, and are desperately trying to not lose face.
Just let it be bullshit. You should all be so much more skeptical than this, by default. Do not try to help out this random internet troll and convert his lies into misunderstandings for him.[/QUOTE]
One does not simply guess Wii Fit Trainer.
Did I seriously forget about Donkey and Diddy Kong? I am dumb.
Tried to keep it as realistic as possible here.
In a post-robin and lucina world.. keeping it realistic is pointless.
I acknowledged this at the end of the post.
The Great Gonzales
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You're right, nothing is known for sure, but I think there's good reason to think at this point that Smash Run enemy = playable rep: every Smash Run enemy so far revealed has a rep from its series (except, as Kor pointed out, the Polar Bear, but really, how likely is it that Ice Climbers have been cut?) Moreover, the second Gematsu leak, which still has some credibility, called for an RH rep. To be sure, that's not proof of anything, but I think it's enough to justify believing in an RH rep.
Tried to keep it as realistic as possible here. I also did my best to arrange characters as I would imagine they would be arranged. Random at the end of course. lol
Krystal, Claus, and Diskun? I wouldn't hold my breath.
Yeah, but he said his information was from Japanese message boards, but didn't specify if it was from a different page of Famitsu or what. All we know is that it's not on the two pages everyone else has seen.
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