Tried to keep it as realistic as possible here. I also did my best to arrange characters as I would imagine they would be arranged. Random at the end of course. lol
I wouldn't exactly say krystal, claus and diskun are realistic.
Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 10: Against the Odds, We Choose to Hype!
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I wouldn't exactly say krystal, claus and diskun are realistic.
Red Arremer
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Electroplankton isn't really a game that lends itself well to, well, anything (heck I'd argue it's not even a game lol). Yet we got Hanenbow as a stage in the last game.
Perhaps Sakurai likes Rhythm Heaven and wanted to acknowledge it in some way, or perhaps it was suggested by somebody on his team, or perhaps they thought it's an enemy that just works but comes from a series that isn't one of the well-known ones.
I know, but a lot of people treat it like a fact.
Personally I treat the Gematsu "leak" as I treat any rumor: I don't believe it. If it turns out true, that's cool, but unlike the vast majority of smashGAF, I don't take the "leak" as a gospel that has to come true 100%. After all, there have been inconsistencies, as well as outright wrong information, from this "leaker".
theprodigy
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on the other hand, the enemies that don't belong to a series with a playable character are less likely to be shown (although of course this works both ways here)
There's a separate article from the Robin/Lucina/Falcon pictorial that's apparently written by Sakurai himself. Nobody's scanned the whole thing yet, though.
Sakurai usually has a column in Famitsu, so it could come from there.
That's where he talked about Miyamoto wanting to add Pac-Man. So it's not unheard of for famitsu to have some behind the scenes info like that.
However, we haven't seen hide nor hair of this, so it's rumor until we get confirmation. Like I said, I don't care if it's proven to be true or not, I just want to have the final word.
That's where he talked about Miyamoto wanting to add Pac-Man. So it's not unheard of for famitsu to have some behind the scenes info like that.
However, we haven't seen hide nor hair of this, so it's rumor until we get confirmation. Like I said, I don't care if it's proven to be true or not, I just want to have the final word.
There's no attempt to save face or any such thing. Nor any mental gymnastics. It's a simple understanding of the fact that people can have varying levels of access during the development of a game (or varying levels of access to people who do), and things can change from one phase of development to another. It's also an acknowledgment of the fact that some truths can be accompanied by inaccurate or misconstrued information. There has been enough in the Gematsu leak/rumor that has been uncannily accurate, against all odds, to make people think there is still more truth than not. Thus, there may still be some value to it in terms of deducing what we can expect next. In this case, that may be Shulk and/or a Rhythm Heaven character. But yes -- caution should be exercised and it should not be taken as gospel, so much as a possibility.
IntelliHeath
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Oh yeah. That's good suggestion, and hopefully he would pick up the magazine and see if there is any missing page.
And yet it seems we've seen no Xenoblade enemies in Smash Run. How does that not make people question the inclusion of Shulk?
IntelliHeath
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Yeah, I had a suspense that informations probably came from Sakurai's column, so it might be a long waiting before we finally get a verification.
Waluigilicious
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Sakurai is so unpredictable that I bet even now no one will get the complete roster correct.
Distresssss
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Don't know if you guys know yet but my main woman Lucina can put on or remove her mask with a taunt.
Every enemy in Smash Run is from a series with a playable character. Not every series has enemies in Smash Run though (Punch-Out!, Fire Emblem, etc.).
Who said it was a two-way street? The theory is that the enemies who appear come from series represented by playable characters -- but that doesn't mean every playable character will have enemies from their series in Smash Run.
Gone. Here's copy paste info on Robin's moves:
Robin's Forward Smash
This move strikes your opponent with Robin's Thunder Sword. However, as you can only use Robin's Thunder Sword attacks a certain number of times, once you've run out of uses, this attack will hit with a regular bronze sword instead.
Forward air attack
When performing this move, if you were to smash the analog stick in the forward direction, Robin will attack with his Thunder Sword for additional electric damage. But like all of Robin's Thunder Sword attacks, you can only use the improved version a finite number of times.
Down+B: Nosferatu
Purple-black smog in the shape of a snake appears right in front of Robin when this move is used. If your opponent is hit by it, he or she will be "cursed" by the spell. When a cursed opponent is hit, Robin's health meter will recover. What's also interesting is that if the cursed opponent is struck from the back, the amount of health Robin recovers will be larger.
Neutral B: Thunder
Hitting the button once will activate a charging period for Robin's Thunder spell, and hitting it again will cast it. The amount of time Robin charges will determine the version of the spell cast (Thunder, L Thunder, Giga Thunder, or Tron).
While charging, you can also hit the shield button to cancel the move and store the charge -- the next time you hit the B button, Robin will resume charging from wherever you left off previously.
Up+B: L Wind
When this special move is performed in the air, Robin produces two green projectiles that he sends flying downwards, which simultaneously propels him upwards. However, you can only use this move a limited number of times. Once you've exceeded the number of uses, Robin will not produce the projectiles or jump higher.
Side+B: Giga Fire
Robin produces a projectile that flies diagonally downwards. When the projectile comes into contat with the stage, an opponent, or an item, it will generate a pillar of fire that spreads upwards, and deal area damage to anyone nearby.
Robin's Forward Smash
This move strikes your opponent with Robin's Thunder Sword. However, as you can only use Robin's Thunder Sword attacks a certain number of times, once you've run out of uses, this attack will hit with a regular bronze sword instead.
Forward air attack
When performing this move, if you were to smash the analog stick in the forward direction, Robin will attack with his Thunder Sword for additional electric damage. But like all of Robin's Thunder Sword attacks, you can only use the improved version a finite number of times.
Down+B: Nosferatu
Purple-black smog in the shape of a snake appears right in front of Robin when this move is used. If your opponent is hit by it, he or she will be "cursed" by the spell. When a cursed opponent is hit, Robin's health meter will recover. What's also interesting is that if the cursed opponent is struck from the back, the amount of health Robin recovers will be larger.
Neutral B: Thunder
Hitting the button once will activate a charging period for Robin's Thunder spell, and hitting it again will cast it. The amount of time Robin charges will determine the version of the spell cast (Thunder, L Thunder, Giga Thunder, or Tron).
While charging, you can also hit the shield button to cancel the move and store the charge -- the next time you hit the B button, Robin will resume charging from wherever you left off previously.
Up+B: L Wind
When this special move is performed in the air, Robin produces two green projectiles that he sends flying downwards, which simultaneously propels him upwards. However, you can only use this move a limited number of times. Once you've exceeded the number of uses, Robin will not produce the projectiles or jump higher.
Side+B: Giga Fire
Robin produces a projectile that flies diagonally downwards. When the projectile comes into contat with the stage, an opponent, or an item, it will generate a pillar of fire that spreads upwards, and deal area damage to anyone nearby.
Red Arremer
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I would be cool with all of this.
The Great Gonzales
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Have we seen an enemy from every series that is confirmed on the roster? Absence of evidence =/= evidence of absence, whereas a shot of an enemy from a series without any reps constitutes some evidence for a rep.
Cosmic Dreams
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who knows? he'd be quite a random last surprise. besides, im sure if mr.g&w was never in smash and someone were to tell you he'd be in this game, most people would be like "lol nah".
it's smash though...you never know. hell it might look like im completely off by the time the 3ds game drops.
There's clear scans there, I'd remove it.
I'd still love for a costume choice to include the mask. Also, still not sure if that's a taunt or her opening animation
Done. Thanks for the heads up. Here's the text content of the page:
Apart from the scoops on the new characters coming to BlazBlue: Chrono Phantasma and Persona 4 Arena Ultimax, the latest issue of Weekly Famitsu magazine has also furnished additional details on the move sets for the Super Smash Bros. for Wii U/3DS characters Nintendo announced on Monday.
Let's start with Lucina. She has the exact same set of special moves that Marth does, and like Masahiro Sakurai explained, the main difference between Lucina and Marth is that the former's moves will do the same damage regardless of which part of her blade hits, whereas Marth's attacks will only do maximum damage if the tip of his blade brushes the opponent.
One very important detail that both the character reveal trailer and Sakurai left out, however, is that you can actually start a match as Lucina with her mask on. In fact, Lucina has a taunt that lets her put on or remove the mask, in a similar fashion to Guile's "sunglasses" taunt in Ultra Street Fighter 4.
The second image you see above from Famitsu provides a brief overview of Captain Falcon's moves. It would appear that not many changes has been made to Captain Falcon's move set from Super Smash Bros. Brawl to the new verison for Wii U and 3DS.
One detail that might be new, however, is that if you activate Captain Falcon's neutral-B special, Falcon Punch, and immediately push the analog stick in the direction opposite of the character is facing, Captain Falcon will actually unleash this signature move in the opposite direction -- which does more damage. Please let me know in the comments if this was already possible in past Smash Bros. games.
Famitsu also provided a very detailed rundown of Robin's special moves in the game. Check out the images below, as well as our translation of the details.
Robin's Forward Smash
This move strikes your opponent with Robin's Thunder Sword. However, as you can only use Robin's Thunder Sword attacks a certain number of times, once you've run out of uses, this attack will hit with a regular bronze sword instead.
Forward air attack
When performing this move, if you were to smash the analog stick in the forward direction, Robin will attack with his Thunder Sword for additional electric damage. But like all of Robin's Thunder Sword attacks, you can only use the improved version a finite number of times.
Down+B: Nosferatu
Purple-black smog in the shape of a snake appears right in front of Robin when this move is used. If your opponent is hit by it, he or she will be "cursed" by the spell. When a cursed opponent is hit, Robin's health meter will recover. What's also interesting is that if the cursed opponent is struck from the back, the amount of health Robin recovers will be larger.
Neutral B: Thunder
Hitting the button once will activate a charging period for Robin's Thunder spell, and hitting it again will cast it. The amount of time Robin charges will determine the version of the spell cast (Thunder, L Thunder, Giga Thunder, or Tron).
While charging, you can also hit the shield button to cancel the move and store the charge -- the next time you hit the B button, Robin will resume charging from wherever you left off previously.
Up+B: L Wind
When this special move is performed in the air, Robin produces two green projectiles that he sends flying downwards, which simultaneously propels him upwards. However, you can only use this move a limited number of times. Once you've exceeded the number of uses, Robin will not produce the projectiles or jump higher.
Side+B: Giga Fire
Robin produces a projectile that flies diagonally downwards. When the projectile comes into contat with the stage, an opponent, or an item, it will generate a pillar of fire that spreads upwards, and deal area damage to anyone nearby.
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Tried to keep it as realistic as possible here.
you have a weird understanding of "realistic as possible".
Distresssss
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100% confirmed taunt. It was likened to being similar as Guile putting sunglasses on in SF4.
The thunder move would make sense, iirc, when the thunder move was shown to have different symbols, it seemed like a charge move
Oh, didn't see that earlier, my bad. On a side note, that Kirby Lucina is cute
kuroneko0509
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So you can start Lucina with her mask on, but I still feel it's a bit wierd seeing her wearing that mask with her hair brought down :x
theprodigy
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nah, if someone can land Germany 7-1 Brazil with Khedira scoring, someone can land the final roster when we already have 36 confirmed characters and a bunch of obvious ones (Meta Knight, Ice Climbers, Mr. Game and Watch, etc.)
IntelliHeath
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I really like what I'm hearing about Robin's moves. You have to play smarter with him, which is fine with me.
Okay, thought that might be it. Hopefully someone will pick up the magazine and we can get a full translation.
I've seen enough real leaks to know that sometimes not everything is completely correct. One inaccuracy out of a handful of legitimate details doesn't automatically discredit the entire thing. Call it mental gymnastics, call it denial, or call it whatever else you want -- all six of the initial Gematsu characters have since been confirmed, including the incredibly unpredictable Wii Fit Trainer, and the most recent leak specifically named the Mii Fighter. Those kinds of explicit details make it difficult to ignore the whole thing. Sal's source obviously knows something, and that's why the leak is more likely to contain outdated or misconstrued information rather than being flat-out "wrong."
I was thinking the exact same thing when I read that!
Alternatively, getting way too excited and yelling "THIS IS GONNA BE THE BEST FUCKING GAME EVER"
That's practically every chargeable special in the game though, most people should have already assumed you'd be able to store it.
Exactly. If you lay out everything objectively, it'd be dumb to discount the Gematsu leak entirely based on Chrom, when everything else (including some truly inexplicable details, like Wii Fit Trainer and the name "Mii Fighters") were 100 percent accurate.
I'm inclined to believe the leaker saw something, at some point, which is forming the basis of his leaks. And clearly he didn't get everything 100% right, or if he did, things have since changed, which is not unheard of in game development.
kuroneko0509
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So Famitsu didn't tell whether the tomes would regenerate or not 
Lucina is guile and has charge moves confirmed.
Masked Lucina is great news. I thought she would had the mask only when she entered.
About Robin, I really love these two moves. Nosferatu was one of my favourite spells along with Thoron.
So Famitsu didn't tell whether the tomes would regenerate or not
They likely regenerate on death.
My point is, people are acting like Shulk is equally as likely as Chorus Men. We have actual evidence of RH representation in the game. There has not been a trophy, a stage, a snippet of music our a single character model to indicate Shulk (or any Xenoblade rep) is a reality, yet there is no discussion that it might not be accurate.
I do believe he'll be in, but his chances are still less than the Chorus Men.
theprodigy
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nah screw that, Shulk is a charge character /s
IntelliHeath
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So Famitsu didn't tell whether the tomes would regenerate or not
I think it might just like sword, right?
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