kuroneko0509
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At the very least, I would be okay with this as a roster layout:
Edit: Actually I would swap the boys for (ZS)Samus
I think I saw this somewhere, where'd you get it?
It's already been translated by a fellow gaffer
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I think I saw this somewhere, where'd you get it?
It's already been translated by a fellow gaffer
balladofwindfishes
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At the very least, I would be okay with this as a roster layout:
Edit: Actually I would swap the boys for (ZS)Samus
I know he said random and Mii are on a different menu, but there are 2 blocks on that layout missing, one from the top and one from the bottom. Wouldn't a layout where the Mii and Random buttons are actually on the layout be better than having space for them and instead adding them to a separate area?
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Unless that's what you already skimmed. Then idk if there any good scans around. I wouldn't be able to understand them.
Tathanen
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Baron von Loathsome
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Miis are only enabled when customization is turned on, anyway.
RomanceDawn
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Wowzers! Mewtwo, Ridley and King K Rool relegated to playable bosses? It hurts so much.
At the same time me getting Dixie and Little Mac is huge just not has huge as Ridley...
This boss thing has been coming up a few times and I'm sure someone is just piggy backing off another rumor but I won't disregard it entirely. People have responded to me else where saying "if there is boss mode why didn't Sakurai show it during the direct?!" My response is it would explain the Ridley tease so well and the Wii U version won't be out for a while. There is still so much to announce and discuss in future directs.
At the same time me getting Dixie and Little Mac is huge just not has huge as Ridley...
This boss thing has been coming up a few times and I'm sure someone is just piggy backing off another rumor but I won't disregard it entirely. People have responded to me else where saying "if there is boss mode why didn't Sakurai show it during the direct?!" My response is it would explain the Ridley tease so well and the Wii U version won't be out for a while. There is still so much to announce and discuss in future directs.
Source? Everyone keeps spouting that without a source. AFAIK that's just interpretation.
peanutbutterlatte
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Yknow what's fun? Imagining the intonation of the announcer saying new character names. They'll get burnt into our minds!At the very least, I would be okay with this as a roster layout:
Edit: Actually I would swap the boys for (ZS)Samus
Kor of Memory
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Just some silly rumor floating around gamefaqs.
balladofwindfishes
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It's never been sourced, and Miis appear to have default moves, so there's no reason to assume they wouldn't be allowed. Banning them online isn't because of their moveset, it's to prevent lewd Miis or bullying through Miis.
I think it's just speculation that spiraled into fact that never had a source for the speculation to start.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
At the very least, I would be okay with this as a roster layout:
Edit: Actually I would swap the boys for (ZS)Samus
Yeah, I would be happy with the roster.
That's what I was thinking. I thought all we knew was that neither will be enabled online with randoms.
Do the Miis have any default moves? I've seen that conversation come up a few times too.
Ouiji...?!
NeonZ
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But Miis can be used online in Mario Kart. I don't think that excuse holds. The Miis not being playable with custom moveset isn't confirmed, but it's also not confirmed that they have a default moveset at all. We don't know how the three types of Mii are even chosen at this point. We lack a lot of information about them.
They have 3 different moves (according to the direct, they're numbered), so I assume if customization is off, they get move "1" for all of their specials. They also might wear no costume parts, but I think customization is strictly relegated to moves, not costumes.
You can't have hitler beat you up in mario kart, either. Imagine the headlines "Man playing as hitler beats up jewish child in Nintendo video game. Are your kids safe? More at 11"
Tathanen
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So yeah, this:
This is what seemed fishy to me. He makes it sound like he's okay with alts that are totally different characters here, but then he lists all of the existing examples, which AREN'T different characters. They're just sex changes on the same character. The names aren't different.
Despite his examples not actually being proper examples of the point he's trying to make, though, it does sound like he's okay with different-character alts. I don't really... believe him, though. Let's say, for the sake of argument even though it won't happen with these characters, he made a Falco alt for Fox. If he did that, when you finish the battle it'd say WINNER: FOX!!! with Falco standing there. I just don't see him ever letting something like that happen.
I kinda think that he considered making Lucina a Marth alt, but ran up against that exact issue. And so the game never has to deal with handling different names for alts, he made the tiniest of edits to Lucina to "justify" her being her own character, and getting her own slot.
I mean maybe I'll be proved wrong eventually when we see an alt that's not just a gender/occupation swap for the same character, but I doubt I will be.
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This is what seemed fishy to me. He makes it sound like he's okay with alts that are totally different characters here, but then he lists all of the existing examples, which AREN'T different characters. They're just sex changes on the same character. The names aren't different.
Despite his examples not actually being proper examples of the point he's trying to make, though, it does sound like he's okay with different-character alts. I don't really... believe him, though. Let's say, for the sake of argument even though it won't happen with these characters, he made a Falco alt for Fox. If he did that, when you finish the battle it'd say WINNER: FOX!!! with Falco standing there. I just don't see him ever letting something like that happen.
I kinda think that he considered making Lucina a Marth alt, but ran up against that exact issue. And so the game never has to deal with handling different names for alts, he made the tiniest of edits to Lucina to "justify" her being her own character, and getting her own slot.
I mean maybe I'll be proved wrong eventually when we see an alt that's not just a gender/occupation swap for the same character, but I doubt I will be.
NeonZ
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You can have a Hitler Mii throwing bombs on the other players though.
If the voice can be changed, why couldn't the narrator call and name be altered too? He specifically mentions voice and name there. So I'd think we could get costumes that change the name, just like how we already have ones that change the voice. His examples are odd though, but to me, it just suggests that he does have more proper example, but couldn't say it because that example hasn't been unveiled yet.
But he's not punching, kicking, 'killing' you. He's just racing against you. Throwing a shell at you. It's still bad, but not as bad as the context of a fighting game.
The Great Gonzales
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Raphael the Raven or bust.
I'm sure they will; you'll go into the character customization screen, and whichever moves are on the top row/first column will be the default setting. They need default moves, because what if I want to play against an AI Mii but haven't bothered to go in and set up a moveset for my Miis? Would Miis just be locked until you go into character customization and set one up? Unlikely.
Well I'm constantly being shelled by germans anyway, I thought it was supposed to be an accurate representation of WW2.
Tathanen
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Well now that I'm thinkin about it, Sheik and ZSS were exactly this, huh. Two differently-named characters sharing a single slot. Obviously they had totally different movesets and were actually transformations but nonetheless: different names on the victory screen. So maybe it's not THAT impossible. You can't track their stats independently if they aren't separate slots (according to Sakurai's post), but I guess it doesn't REALLY matter if you track the stats separately if the characters are literally identical other than appearance.
WE'LL SEE. I wouldn't mind a ton of different-character alts.
OricWindstar
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I feel like we speculate on characters and assist trophies all the time, but not that much on potential items. Anyone have an item they're really hoping is included?
IntelliHeath
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Man, that rumor hits so many things right. Playable bosses is such a cool concept and would fall under the "making more games to utilize the gamepad" statement Iwata's made earlier this year.
Also if it's true, Heath will get his Takamaru wish
Haha, yes but I will lose Snake ;_;
PadWarrior
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Make a snake mii lol
It feels like it's just putting some wishful thinking in with the Gematsu stuff to call it a day. While I'm skeptical, that would honestly be a lovely roster.
Taka bros gotta stay strong!
Edit: I've forgotten about Snake. ;_;7
IntelliHeath
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This seems like the most realistic take so far.
I think I'm gonna try and redo my ideal roster now.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
But no mines, c4, grenades and rocket launchers. They are so much fun to set up the traps so I can controlling the stages that would suit me. Sometime!
SuperAngelo64
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The menu fake would've been more convincing if it used Japanese names and bizarre romanizations like the melee debug menu.
kuroneko0509
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hopefully the artist will update with Robin & Lucina version
Karsticles
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It could be fun, but ask yourself: wouldn't it be more fun if those bosses were just playable characters?
Lucina and Robin soon I hope.
The Great Gonzales
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Those stained glass portraits are incredible. I can't wait to see the Robin one.
Am I remembering correctly and that artist did a chrom one already in anticipation? Or did I make that up?
PadWarrior
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Dlc grenades for miis? J/k
Just play as sheik and only use side-special and then cry and eat some rations.
SuperAngelo64
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They did non-buff Ike beforehand and had to make another.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
He said that he will do ALL announced characters so y'all shouldn't worry about it. He like to take his time with the arts to make sure that it's so gooooood
Nope, it was Ike.
I would buy Grenade, C4, Mines and Rocket Launcher DLC.
OricWindstar
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Same here. I actually had a small exchange with the artist on Deviantart and he seems really nice.
Stop that.
SuperAngelo64
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ShockingAlberto
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The real question about the Famitsu article: did Sakurai ever use "?!" within its pages
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