Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 10: Against the Odds, We Choose to Hype!

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So, doesn't anyone else think it's shitty that Robin's specials are straight up unusable after the tomes are used up? Like, when the tomes run out, you just can't use specials?
Well, they apparently regenerate after a bit.

But it could be really frustrating if up B runs out while you're trying to recover.
 
man this game needs more love

You know what game needs more love than any Golden Sun game (since Golden Sun gets plenty of love anyway)?

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Explain.
No this is not a thinly veiled "make a moveset" request. >_> <_<

Greninja has shuriken stars, so does Takamaru. Greninja disappears in smoke, and I'm pretty sure Takamaru can become invisible as well. Greninja has a freakin' water sword, while Takamaru uses a katana.

That's just off the top of my head, mind you.
 
So, doesn't anyone else think it's shitty that Robin's specials are straight up unusable after the tomes are used up? Like, when the tomes run out, you just can't use specials?

I assume that you'll actually have to try REALLY HARD to make it so that all 4 specials are unusable. The balance is probably that his specials are slightly more powerful than most. His Up B looks insanely good. If I had to guess, you'll lose your stock more often than you'll lose your ability to use a special. The only important one you don't want to lose is your up special, so you just have to be a bit conservative of how you use that one.

Greninja has shuriken stars, so does Takamaru. Greninja disappears in smoke, and I'm pretty sure Takamaru can become invisible as well. Greninja has a freakin' water sword, while Takamaru uses a katana.

That's just off the top of my head, mind you.

Seems possible, but I think the likeness will be more like Fox/Wolf, or maybe even less so, at Mewtwo/Lucario (Both have a shuriken neutral B... and... that's it!)
 
So, doesn't anyone else think it's shitty that Robin's specials are straight up unusable after the tomes are used up? Like, when the tomes run out, you just can't use specials?

Yup. I wonder how long the timer will be and how many uses you get. Not that his specials look great anyway.
 
Greninja has shuriken stars, so does Takamaru. Greninja disappears in smoke, and I'm pretty sure Takamaru can become invisible as well. Greninja has a freakin' water sword, while Takamaru uses a katana.

That's just off the top of my head, mind you.

My favorite part of Takamaru's game was when he gained the power to fart out water to reach higher platforms

:P
 
My favorite part of Takamaru's game was when he gained the power to fart out water to reach higher platforms

:P

My favorite part of Zelda games was when Zelda used magic from the 3 goddesses, and Peach's ass being a bomb in Mario was great. I'm also a fan of Jigglypuff using rest to make other Pokemon faint instead of healing herself.
 
I assume that you'll actually have to try REALLY HARD to make it so that all 4 specials are unusable. The balance is probably that his specials are slightly more powerful than most. His Up B looks insanely good. If I had to guess, you'll lose your stock more often than you'll lose your ability to use a special. The only important one you don't want to lose is your up special, so you just have to be a bit conservative of how you use that one.

I agree. I'd wager the recharge time is pretty quick too! I would think it's mostly there as a novelty than to restrict power
 
Yeah, camera tilt is really bad on Pokemon Stadium. I always see the icons get in the way on Dreamland in Melee, too. Fixing those kinds of issues is the bigger thing. The picture next to the percent doesn't really get in the way any more than the normal UI, but I still think it looks really bad.
I wish it would just be translucent all the time. That would be a simple fix and makes it so it isn't obtrusive. If they can make it an adjustable setting, that would be even more amazing.
His up-B looks like it might be really good for edgeguarding.
It seems to send opponents upwards, so it probably won't be.

The way it is worded, it seems like Robin won't become helpless after using his/her up special.
 
I agree. I'd wager the recharge time is pretty quick too! I would think it's mostly there as a novelty than to restrict power

In the interview he says it comes back quickly, I thought. Probably 10-20 seconds TOPS. I bet you get like 3-5 charges per tome, then 10 seconds where you can't use them. I can totally imagine scenarios where you get knocked off the stage a 3rd/4th time and - uh oh - you're out of recovery special.

But seriously, though, how good does his up special look.
 
man this game needs more love
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especially Karis I would lvoe to have her playable...

If not as playable characters would love to see them become AT or hell i'll settle for just a trophy of them so i can read. Dark Dawn was awesome sadly no one liked it :(

No one liked it because it wasn't very good. Any love would be wasted on this.
 
What if his tomes can regenerate uses even if you havent used all of them

Like, lets say each tome has 4 uses.

If you use one, it has 3 uses, but the timer starts. Then after 5 seconds you get the 4th use back.
But if you run out of uses, you have to wait for it to gerenerate fully (20 seconds in this case) to use it again.

Kinda like MP in Kingdom Hearts 2
 
I'm guessing that "Fire Emblem Awakening Protagonist" was on the original design docs, in a similar way that "Pokemon from XY" was there.
 
What if his tomes can regenerate uses even if you havent used all of them

Like, lets say each tome has 4 uses.

If you use one, it has 3 uses, but the timer starts. Then after 5 seconds you get the 4th use back.
But if you run out of uses, you have to wait for it to gerenerate fully (20 seconds in this case) to use it again.

Kinda like MP in Kingdom Hearts 2

I could see this being true so that tomes rarely even do break unless you are just hammering on the same special move
 
I'm guessing that the Gematsu leaker had access to the original E3 reveal beforehand, and has been bullshitting his way ever since.



No it really doesn't.


Shulk and Chorus men (rhythm heaven rep) will be in the game.

No it doesn't. Chrom wasn't planned. He was hardly even considered.

Sorry if you're just being jokey. But Gematsu has been dealt a blow. I'm not saying it's 100% wrong, but the confidence that backed it before is gone.

I'm not saying everything the Gematsu leak claimed is true. Obviously Chrom was wrong, but the leaker does have some inside info. This isn't black and white.
 
It seems to send opponents upwards, so it probably won't be.

The way it is worded, it seems like Robin won't become helpless after using his/her up special.

But you can get multiple hits in from a safe distance. Like how easy it is to hit with Sonic's spring except this looks a lot better.
 
Shulk and Chorus men (rhythm heaven rep) will be in the game.

Yeah but one can't point to Gematsu as the end all on the final roster now. I believe those characters will be in, accompanied by more. Which Gematsu said wouldn't happen.

It's not as robust as it once was. It was profoundly wrong about Chrom, and Shulk being revealed on Monday.
 
No it doesn't. Chrom wasn't planned. He was hardly even considered.

We don't know what the leaker saw, assuming he was right. What we do know is he's gotten a ton of stuff right, and he was right about there being a Fire Emblem Awakening character. And he's also right about Rhythm Heaven getting more representation than we originally expected.
 
The Smash sub-reddit was actually discussing this earlier today. The picture is a bit nicer though.

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Someone brought up an interesting point. Not sure if its been discussed. Just throwing it out there to see what you guys think.

Interesting, but It should said Smash Direct, not Nintendo Direct. We'll see.

I would love to see Impa with Hyrule Warrior moveset tho.
 
The Smash sub-reddit was actually discussing this earlier today. The picture is a bit nicer though.

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Someone brought up an interesting point. Not sure if its been discussed. Just throwing it out there to see what you guys think.

I really don't think we would get more Zelda characters than Mario or Pokemon. To counter that, Pokemon would probably get Mewtwo and Mario would need someone else but I wouldn't hold my breath.
 
We don't know what the leaker saw, assuming he was right. What we do know is he's gotten a ton of stuff right, and he was right about there being a Fire Emblem Awakening character. And he's also right about Rhythm Heaven getting more representation than we originally expected.

The only outlandish thing he's been right about so far was WFT, the rest were all commonly suggested characters.

I think, like someone said earlier, he saw a bit of info pre-E3 and has been bullshitting to keep his 15 seconds of internet fame ever since.
 
Yeah but one can't point to Gematsu as the end all on the final roster now. I believe those characters will be in, accompanied by more. Which Gematsu said wouldn't happen.

It's not as robust as it once was. It was profoundly wrong about Chrom, and Shulk being revealed on Monday.

I'm not saying Shulk and Chorus men are the only two remaining newcomers. I'm saying I believe they will both be in the game (or some rep from both games) and I believe the Gematsu leaker had genuine insider knowledge and didn't just 'get lucky'.

The more surprises the better, those are just my opinions.
 
Listen, the fact that Gematsu was right about of lot of crazy things is a thing. But it was also incredibly wrong about some things that should've been a home run considering how confident the leaker had become.

So yes, I believe an RH rep will be in, as well as Shulk. But I believe there will be more.

Edit: Seems like I agree that Gematsu had insider info, but not comprehensive info.
 
I really don't think we would get more Zelda characters than Mario or Pokemon. To counter that, Pokemon would probably get Mewtwo and Mario would need someone else but I wouldn't hold my breath.
Yeah, Sakurai said there wasn't many new reveals left, so I'm not counting on it.
 
It's not dead.

Only if you're in denial. Chrom was never planned, and he was named specifically in the leak. What people also like to brush over is the fact that the day before Robin and Lucina were revealed, he claimed that it would be Shulk.

If he comes around and says that the next Nintendo Direct will reveal Chorus Men, are you just going to take him at his word? You'd have to be extremely gullible.
 
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