Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 10: Against the Odds, We Choose to Hype!

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I wonder if we'll get Toon Zelda as a clone.

Doubtful. She seems to be an idea that would could easily be reality if transformation characters were still a thing. I can't see Toon Zelda without "Toon Sheik" (Tetra) and I don't think Sakurai would give us six Zelda characters.

Maybe they should make her a ghost and fight with a Phantom, but Zelda already has a Phantom. Should we just get Tetra?
 
I wonder if we'll get Toon Zelda as a clone.

Let me preface the following by saying I'm not rooting for her or anything. I just think that from where we stand in the dark, she's one of the characters who has a number of things going for her:

  • Leftover Brawl data says Toon Zelda was planned for that game
  • The Phantom Guardian, from Spirit Tracks, was added to adult Zelda
  • Toon Zelda would complement Toon Link and better rep the "toon" series
  • "Toon" series still topical, with recent release of The Wind Waker HD
  • Would be simple clone of Zelda, in vein of Lucina or, well, Toon Link
  • She'd also be another female character on the roster, for what it's worth
  • She could be a hidden unlockable like Toon Link was in Brawl
What say you, Smash Brethren?

Quite possible.

And if it happens I'm going to have a stroke.
 
I'd rather have most of the Diamond City cast over Wario himself, to be honest. Mona, Ashley, Jimmy T., and 9-Volt are all awesome and I'd love to see them in Smash.
No love for Wario? >:(

Man, this is as devastating as when I looked up André's review of Kid Icarus Uprising and saw him totally not get it.

Well, at least Derrick hasn't disappointed me... Yet.
 
WarioWare is a fine series, but it's disappointing how it's all but killed the Wario Land series. Since the advent of WarioWare, there's been only one Wario Land game (albeit an excellent one,) and aside from his side smash and his alt, everything Wario has in Smash is taken from WarioWare.
Actually, he has several moves taken from Wario World. The Bite, jab combo, F-Throw and Up B are all pretty much from that game. I'm guessing UpB is at least based on the move of the same name. His moveset is pretty balanced when it comes to taking from his series with a mix of original attacks too, in all honesty. I like it this way a lot.


EDIT: Wario is the best member of the Warioware team. >:(
 
My friend asked me today what the new Smash Bros game was called and in answering him I now understand why people don't like the names.
It's probably the naming model going forward, unless Nintendo's next console and portable have scalable games. "For [Console]" and "For [Portable]" makes it clear for moms and other casuals/non-gamers which one to get for Lil' Snooky and Booger.
 
I wonder if we'll get Toon Zelda as a clone.
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What say you, Smash Brethren?
If she was in I don't think I'd have a reason to pick normal Zelda (unless she gets a decent skyward sword alt maybe?) Toon Zelda's just infinitely cuter and looks like she's just having more fun in general :3

Nice to see all the wario-ware love :D
I liked Mona when the first game hit and used her as my rep in the games but when Ashley came along later she instantly became my new favourite and her little tune is right up there with Jimmy T's cat-dance :3
I still think it's a shame they're basically AT/normal trophy material in smash as I'd love some playable repping for them outside of Wario, but my top contender for that is already assisting it seems :/
 
What if Chorus Kid's smash attacks are stronger if you release them to the beat of the BGM?
Without some kind of matching visual indicator (like the character tapping their foot or bending their knees to the rhythm) I think people with hearing difficulties would basically be locked out from playing them :/

I also think it's more likely to be Marshall. I know he's a different character but he gives more alt options than the trio would plus he'd be easier to implement than three characters trying to move together :P
 
Nice to see all the wario-ware love :D
I liked Mona when the first game hit and used her as my rep in the games but when Ashley came along later she instantly became my new favourite and her little tune is right up there with Jimmy T's cat-dance :3
I still think it's a shame they're basically AT/normal trophy material in smash as I'd love some playable repping for them outside of Wario, but my top contender for that is already assisting it seems :/
Chorus Kids might as well be spiritual Warioware characters. :P

Speaking of, I'm hoping if there's a Rhythm Heaven stage they'd have the songs available in English and Japanese, just like the Warioware stage in Brawl. I also have an idea where the stage could be like a remix, and it's different depending on the music that plays. Didn't reach the part about how that could work though.

Also, if there's a new Warioware stage, I need Jimmy's Aerobics.
 
What if Chorus Kid's smash attacks are stronger if you release them to the beat of the BGM?
If it's Chorus Men, and not Marshal, I picture the three kids acting as a metronome when you use specials. So you tap B, and the first one sings; time a second tap correctly, and the second one sings; and tap a third time correctly, and the third one sings. And each time you time it correctly, the attack power grows stronger. But I wouldn't necessarily tie it to the BGM. I think it'd make more sense for them to have their own musical cue, like a "tick, tick, TOCK," which you'd use to dole out the hits with the appropriate timing.
 
I wonder if we'll get Toon Zelda as a clone.

Let me preface the following by saying I'm not rooting for her or anything. I just think that from where we stand in the dark, she's one of the characters who has a number of things going for her:

  • Leftover Brawl data says Toon Zelda was planned for that game
  • The Phantom Guardian, from Spirit Tracks, was added to adult Zelda
  • Toon Zelda would complement Toon Link and better rep the "toon" series
  • "Toon" series still topical, with recent release of The Wind Waker HD
  • Would be simple clone of Zelda, in vein of Lucina or, well, Toon Link
  • She'd also be another female character on the roster, for what it's worth
  • She could be a hidden unlockable like Toon Link was in Brawl
What say you, Smash Brethren?

I don't think so. She seems like padding that we don't need. I feel like there was a reason she was taken out in Brawl. Aside from Lucina all of the characters revealed thus far are pretty damn unique.
 
It's probably the naming model going forward, unless Nintendo's next console and portable have scalable games. "For [Console]" and "For [Portable]" makes it clear for moms and other casuals/non-gamers which one to get for Lil' Snooky and Booger.

So...can I play it on a regular DS instead and on the wii without the expensive controller?
 
Actually, he has several moves taken from Wario World. The Bite, jab combo, F-Throw and Up B are all pretty much from that game. I'm guessing UpB is at least based on the move of the same name. His moveset is pretty balanced when it comes to taking from his series with a mix of original attacks too, in all honesty. I like it this way a lot.


EDIT: Wario is the best member of the Warioware team. >:(

That's true, Wario World is a lot closer to Wario Land than WarioWare; thinking about it, it is a well-balanced moveset. I guess it's a more a combination of bitterness that Wario Land isn't getting any new installments and nostalgia goggles, haha. The Black Sugar Pirates need some representation in Smash - if not Captain Syrup herself, an SS Tea Cup stage would be cool.

On another note, that fake trailer made me so much more excited for a Rhythm Heaven rep (preferably the Chorus Men, just because three characters at once would be more unique.) The way the conductor tore off his costume and they beat up Wario really endeared them to me.
 
Who would you guys like most out of Warioware's cast of characters? Definitely 9-volt for me. I'm imagining him being like Pac-Man except he uses a lot of old Nintendo sprites instead of Namco IPs.
 
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God I love these.
 
That's true, Wario World is a lot closer to Wario Land than WarioWare; thinking about it, it is a well-balanced moveset. I guess it's a more a combination of bitterness that Wario Land isn't getting any new installments and nostalgia goggles, haha. The Black Sugar Pirates need some representation in Smash - if not Captain Syrup herself, an SS Tea Cup stage would be cool.
Mhm. I love how Wario is represented in Smash, but there's no excuse for the lack of Wario Land content everywhere else. Hoping this time we actually get a Wario Land stage. :/

I'd love Captain Syrup, too.
 
To this day, I still don't fully understand what happened

I feel like the answer to that segment is the answer to life itself
I think the idea is the little girl was excited to buy coffee at a real coffee shop but found it was extremely intimidating to have to make various decisions on the spot. The pressure she felt rubbed off on the other young girl who was working there and nervous about dealing with customers.
 
I think the idea is the little girl was excited to buy coffee at a real coffee shop but found it was extremely intimidating to have to make various decisions on the spot. The pressure she felt rubbed off on the other young girl who was working there and nervous about dealing with customers.

So it's basically the frenetic, anime version of this.

Nope, looks good up there!

You're too kind :)


This would be perfect if the "For Fun" was changed to Ike with "For My Friends."
 
Chorus Kids might as well be spiritual Warioware characters. :P
Heck no XD While I find Rhythm Heaven to be a pretty quirky lil series I just don't feel like it has as much enduring character in any one rep compared to the ever-present cast of the wario-ware series :3

Who would you guys like most out of Warioware's cast of characters? Definitely 9-volt for me. I'm imagining him being like Pac-Man except he uses a lot of old Nintendo sprites instead of Namco IPs.
Well, I already said Ashley but seeing you mention 9-Volt does remind me of a minor curiosity of mine: Do people who want 9-volt actually really like the character or is the lil guy's draw purely his access to all the classic nintendo games like starfox and whatnot? I wonder that every time I see someone suggest him :o

On an unrelated tangeant, one of my friends always bemoans the lack of Advance Wars representation. While I love the new Fire Emblem additions to the cast, he's reacting to them as if they're rubbing salt in his AW wounds XD Anyone think the Wars series have a chance of appearing in any of the remaining newcomers or are the chances of a rep as dead as the series itself? :o
 
Who would you guys like most out of Warioware's cast of characters? Definitely 9-volt for me. I'm imagining him being like Pac-Man except he uses a lot of old Nintendo sprites instead of Namco IPs.
Ah man, that's hard. Not counting Wario, my favorites are Spitz & Dribble, but the ones I want in Smash are Jimmy T, Mona or 9-Volt.

I think I'd go with Jimmy T. He could bring the Elite Beat Agents moveset that I always wished for.
;_;
 
Did anyone else get into a franchise they never dabbled in just because of Smash?

Melee is the root of my "gamer-ness" I guess.

I only knew of the Mario characters and Pokemon before that. It was one day years later when I was like "Who is Link?" and lo' and behold everything changed lol.
 
I've never cared for the idea of WarioWare characters being playable, but I still love the first three handheld games to death.

The gradual quality decline and irrelevance beginning with Smooth Moves saddens me to this day.
 
I've never cared for the idea of WarioWare characters being playable, but I still love the first three games to death.

The gradual quality decline and irrelevance beginning with Smooth Moves saddens me to this day.

Smooth Moves as a single player wario ware was pretty bad. Smooth Moves as a party game however, was fucking incredible.
 
On an unrelated tangeant, one of my friends always bemoans the lack of Advance Wars representation. While I love the new Fire Emblem additions to the cast, he's reacting to them as if they're rubbing salt in his AW wounds XD Anyone think the Wars series have a chance of appearing in any of the remaining newcomers or are the chances of a rep as dead as the series itself? :o
It's generally agreed upon that Sami would be an ideal AW rep.
 
No love for Wario? >:(

Man, this is as devastating as when I looked up André's review of Kid Icarus Uprising and saw him totally not get it.

Well, at least Derrick hasn't disappointed me... Yet.

Haha, sorry... can't please everyone, I guess! Wario is one of my top three least favorite characters ever, along with Waluigi and Tingle. I just think they're all obnoxious and I don't get their appeal.

BUT! I'm not the kind of guy to actively hope any character gets cut from Smash despite how I feel about them, because I want fans of as many characters as possible to be happy. So I'm not hoping for him to be cut from Smash 4, and I'll be perfectly content when he's inevitably revealed.

I will admit I couldn't do anything but chuckle at all the Waluigi trolling by Sakurai, though. :P

And if it helps any, Kid Icarus: Uprising is maybe my favorite 3DS game ever, and it's definitely up there in my favorites of all time list too!
 
It's generally agreed upon that Sami would be an ideal AW rep.

While AW is dear to my heart, I can't really think of anyone I'd want to be in the game. I think a stage could be pretty cool, but I feel like smash stages are never as elaborate as I'd like them to be.
 
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