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i'll be burnt out on it by the end i think

the one thing that i was interested in seeing was a villainous avatar, but since the avatar is basically sharing their body with the very essence of all that is Good and Just, i'll never get to see it (i hate this fucking change so much lol)

Sharing, that doesn't mean they are one and the same or anything. The kite seems dormant for the most part anyway. I used to think avatars were carefully chosen, but apparently it's random, so it could still happen.
 
"Filler" episodes are exactly what I wanted more of on the show. Not feeling that need to leap forward in narrative. Just take it slow and develop characters.

yes, because nobody was really anticipating seeing zaheer's gang go to zao fu, but instead we wanted to retread the same dumb ~tenzin isn't a good leader omg~ plot

yes, we know tenzin is a shit leader, that's all his story is ever about....
 
Lin had every right to be angry with all the assholes in her family but I am really getting tired of all the teenage drama in Legend of Korra. I prefer focusing on the adventure and seeing the characters grow in the process.

Yep, Bryan has said that Korra will be over after Book 4. It's gonna really suck, because we've never not had something to look forward to from this franchise before. The movie was announced before the end of the original series, and Korra was announced before the release of the movie. After 2015, we're not going to have anything left except (maybe) the comics. Unless some other new animated project in the Avatar 'verse is announced, which I'm keeping my fingers crossed for. But barring that, 10 years of onscreen Avatar will be coming to a close.

I think maybe it is for the best to let the franchise rest a little bit and have them create a new universe.
 
What an amazing episode. Just in the true nature of TLA. The filler best episode ever in Korra and up there with the goodies of the last airbender.
 
BTW, why was that episode called the Original Airbenders? I can't think of any meaning of the word that applies here.

The Flying bison. Or at least that's what Tenzin referred to them in the episode when the wild ones had taken a liking to the "new airbenders". "They recognize their own" or something like that.
 
You think it was telling that the spirits fled from the poachers but were floating around Zaheer's hideout?

Or is it just reading into things?
 
Glad that Lin got over her issues and apologized to Opal? Really I don;t see what she is so upset over something that had to happened 30+ years ago and taking it out on Opal too.

It's all cool now though, homegirl got it resolved.
 
I have to wonder how the Earth King could have raised such a screwed up daughter. I mean, he wasn't a very good leader in the series and he did have his limits in The Promise, but he never acted pompous and was a generally nice guy. Aside from Bosco and his big fancy door, he didn't really have much of an ego.
The earth queen said she didn't want to be "weak" like her father. It's not an unusual trope, for example Tywin Lannister in Game of Thrones has a similar psychology...
They're trying real hard to make the Earth Queen seem like a jerk.
she hates animals, that's explicit signaling in any children's show that the character is a jerk lol
 
How is lava guy able to make lava?
If this was naruto that would be like a bloodline limit combining 2 elements(earth and fire)

Glad that Lin got over her issues and apologized to Opal? Really I don;t see what she is so upset over something that had to happened 30+ years ago and taking it out on Opal too.

It's all cool now though, homegirl got it resolved.
I dunno that scar looked pretty permanent.
 
i was afraid of this. season kinda hit a lull with these two episodes. i actually don't mind the happenings within these episodes, but the clock is ticking on the plot that hasn't really happened yet. we're over halfway through and we don't know why zaheer and his group is after korra. i don't get that there's a conflict that needs resolution. there are shows without that and they do what they do well, but it feels like the season's trying to build to something that is a secret to everyone. that's sort of annoying.

korra's taken a pretty big backseat to this season that has shown us more about lin and bolin and lin's family and tenzin and tenzin's family and good god this cast is so huge. why why why is it so huge and why does it just keep getting bigger?

i hope it gets back on track next time. i really do prefer where this season has gone, generally. i like that we're getting some depth to some of these characters (and i love that the generation of the last airbender turned out to be rather flawed individuals themselves). i would have preferred it come about in more natural ways other than flashbacks, or provide us with newer insights on these characters than what we already know. if episode 6 married its substance with episode 7's style, i would have appreciated both a lot more.

still, i think i prefer this general meandering to characters doing dumb things or stuff happening that doesn't make sense. korra and bolin kinda watch suyin and lin fight, and it's acknowledged why they don't jump in. kind of a step up from korra threatening to kill a judge, which is met with mild surprise.

but yeah. hopefully next time we're back in business. i get the feeling we'll see toph return if shit's getting wrecked where the metal clan's located.
 
I agree with others that the Lin/Toph/other sister situation is all fucked.

Overall did not like the last two episodes.

Main villains need to get off their ass and do something already.
 
Ah, finally, free talk.
The whole season has been gorgeous.
Yes, even when Pierrot took over Korra looked still good and that's one of the things I can't fault the second season.

Episode 7 was wonderful. Tenzin struggling with his personality and his lack of ability to inspire people and Korra actually giving sound advice. Korra should make all her avatar duties by phone calls.
It was interesting to see the airbending training, even when Tenzins methods are shit. It's surprising that most of them even took that shit for so long. The fight between the barely trained airbenders and the bandits was nice to see too. Usually we always have master or at least elite benders fighting, nice to see a bit low level fights.
Also I approve now of Jenora x Kai. It's nice to see, that she is the stronger and more mature one in the relationship and bnobody of the two dominates. They just influence each other. Very very sweet.

I hope we can Tenzin finally from shit level. This guy just rolls throw the seasons pretty much failing everything he does.
 
Just saw the two new episodes: Some thoughts. All of my issues stem largely from season length.

Episode 6:
- Lin's backstory was done in a very cheesy manner. The set-up for the flashbacks was hilariously awkward for me. I mean it was basically:
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Only less self aware. And then to continue them off but make it clear Lin is not pleased we have her storm off. Then come back and the acupuncture guy is all "Please sit down, we have more backstory"

- Her sister was a dick. Plain and simple. Apparently Lin isn't necessarily jealous that her life is so perfect now while hers is pretty miserable (outside of her job). I'm actually glad it was more due to family stress and about her getting away with what she wanted and then Lin getting nagged at by Toph. All a culmination. It's a shame the battle we got was of an extremely weakened Lin, I wanted to see her school the sister.

- No joke I'm kind of getting tired of Korra mastering shit so easily. She could access the avatar state really fucking easily previous seasons, and now it's like "oh wow you're a natural metalbender!". Honestly this should have been Bolin's thing. I could almost swear I recall Mako lightning bending once, they couldn't give Bolin metal bending? In the original series it was a sort of joke in the pirate episode how quick Aang mastered motions for waterbending. But highly specialized shit like lightning, metal, blood bending and healing with water? He never did that. The original series worked so well because Aang could eventually do the four elements, but he never mastered more complicated bending. Though there were a lot of characters with these talents all around him which made them stand their own and so it wasn't entirely the Aang show.

- As cute as Bolin's new relationship with Lin's niece is, it's moving WAY too fast. Like last episode they were awkwardly flirting and establishing parameters. In this episode they were being way more honest and straightforward than somebody else would be this early in a possible relationship, and then they're hugging and stuff. At least give us a couple of episodes.

- It was nice to see Lin with a calm face for once. This must be a huge part as to why she's always so pissed throughout the show.

Episode 7

- The writers keep writing Tenzin as such a snorefest of character. Nobody can be this oblivious that his teaching methods are boring and slow can they? Because I feel most would see the bored class and realize "hey let's focus on air bending first, then introduce principles of air monks throughout these". I hope he's a decent fighter but him being the butt of the joke of "only had 3 students who were his children so doesn't know how to teach others" is getting a bit irritating.

- I am going to go ahead and say it: I can't fucking stand Kai. He's here as the pretty boy Aladdin street rat who is largely here for being Jinora's love interest and to be the cool handsome kid. His character seems extremely forced to me.

- The bison were awesome. But that's no surprise.

- I'll reiterate that I hope Tenzin isn't just the 'bad teacher' joke all throughout their training. It seems like he's a pretty decent teacher of airbending itself, I mean look at exhibits 1 2 and 3.

Over-all I'll mirror the thoughts of others: this show suffers way too much over the half the episodes of TLA seasons, and also from the "baddies of the season" plot. The Last Airbender had close to 20 episodes on average per season, had a clear goal (master the elements save the world), and baddies that spawned multiple seasons. With Korra they have to get through so much character development and stories in like 8-9 episodes then most likely have final battle episodes with the baddies. The development felt awkward in episode 6 since it had to get done in one episode so they could move on. Then episode 7 was a bit of filler of airbender training. This episode would be fine a 20 episode season but as is? It wasted time for me.
 
"You know even tho I’m aangs son, I guess I never really felt like I was part of the air nation before"

"You are now"

Aang was a really bad dad.
 
How is lava guy able to make lava?
If this was naruto that would be like a bloodline limit combining 2 elements(earth and fire)

I dunno that scar looked pretty permanent.

All the elements are linked if you put thought into it. Whenever someone is earth, water, or fire bending (less so the latter), the air around them is moving. Water benders can freeze and unfreeze (so basically heat) water. Katara was able to stay underwater a long time because she made a bubble of air around her. Water and Earth have probably the least connection to each other but water can soften earth and assumedly harden it by sucking the water out. It's already been mentioned that friction with Earth can create fire although it makes less sense in action.

My mind is weird so this is something I've thought about a lot.
 
- The writers keep writing Tenzin as such a snorefest of character. Nobody can be this oblivious that his teaching methods are boring and slow can they? Because I feel most would see the bored class and realize "hey let's focus on air bending first, then introduce principles of air monks throughout these". I hope he's a decent fighter but him being the butt of the joke of "only had 3 students who were his children so doesn't know how to teach others" is getting a bit irritating.
You never met such a type of teacher in school or university? They exist, I can assure you that :D
The thing is, he knows a lot and can repeat it. But he fails to understand, that others may be not interested in the topic. Those airbenders want to learn airbending, they're not interested in airbending culture. Tenzin probably recognized long ago, that people are not interested in his teachings, but don't really know what to do and so just tried a long time just to to the same as ever and pray. He fails to invoke interest in people for the topic that interests him.
How is lava guy able to make lava?
If this was naruto that would be like a bloodline limit combining 2 elements(earth and fire)
He controles the moleculs in the earth. He just lets them vibrate quickly to create heat that melts the stone. Would be my guess.
 
meelo is still the best of the three children. Such a sociopath badass. He's going to be like Zaheer, only for the forces of good. So air bending batman. I want that show plz.

You never met such a type of teacher in school or university? They exist, I can assure you that :D
The thing is, he knows a lot and can repeat it. But he fails to understand, that others may be not interested in the topic. Those airbenders want to learn airbending, they're not interested in airbending culture. Tenzin probably recognized long ago, that people are not interested in his teachings, but don't really know what to do and so just tried a long time just to to the same as ever and pray. He fails to invoke interest in people for the topic that interests him.

It still is getting a bit old. Hopefully this episode is the last we need to see of his awkward teaching methods and next time we see these guys they're fully in air bending training.
 
It still is getting a bit old. Hopefully this episode is the last we need to see of his awkward teaching methods and next time we see these guys they're fully in air bending training.
That we can agree on. Tenzin seriously need some love from the writers.
Or at least a name change into Master Buttmonkey.
 
it's like how many times can you tell us "TENZIN SUCKS AT TEACHING PEOPLE" tho

though given how his kids turned out he did a pretty good job with them, so idk
 
Well quality fell in the last two episodes. Lin relationship with her sister and the flash back all feel forced. Similarly I hate how easily Korra can learn new things without putting any effort.

Also we can all agree that Tenzin is the worst character in the show. He is a bad teacher not cool headed like air nomads is not spiritual and is worst fighter in the series.

one more thing that bugged me that there is no consequences of merging human and spirit work shown yet beside air bending.
 
I wish we had gotten something yknow, profound about air bending in this episode.

Part of what made Bitter Work and Firebending Masters so good was that they went so deep into what made Earth Bending and Fire Bending work.

With a title like Original Airbenders, you'd expect something more rich in lore. But it's a reference to Sky Bison. Kind of lame.

Still I enjoyed these two episodes. This season is so much better than the last two.

Also I kind of don't buy that Aang never learned metal bending. He got really good by the end. Hell it was him using seismic sense that ended up stopping Ozai in his tracks. And you have to be nearing Toph in skill to use that ability. It's how she freaking sees.
 
I wish we had gotten something yknow, profound about air bending in this episode.

Part of what made Bitter Work and Firebending Masters so good was that they went so deep into what made Earth Bending and Fire Bending work.

With a title like Original Airbenders, you'd expect something more rich in lore. But it's a reference to Sky Bison. Kind of lame.

Still I enjoyed these two episodes. This season is so much better than the last two.

Also I kind of don't buy that Aang never learned metal bending. He got really good by the end. Hell it was him using seismic sense that ended up stopping Ozai in his tracks. And you have to be nearing Toph in skill to use that ability. It's how she freaking sees.

It's not all that different from sensing what's behind you by the air movements like that one guy did in tonight's episode.
 
well she was able to bend 3 elements at 4 years old, even among avatars she's a goddamn freak of nature
Now that you say it. How did she figure it out? Water makes sense and maybe fire (which is the element that fits her personality the best), but seriously how did she learn it without anyone to teach her with this amount of control?
 
korra is an extra special prodigy for the sake of condensing her story and keeping her young enough to engage the target audience

i doubt theres more to it than that

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also i wanna mention Grey Delisle did a great job as young lin. had old lin's diction down pat imo. thats the Professional Voice Actor Difference (TM). they need to hire more of those.
 
Some reviews for episodes 6 and 7

Everyone’s growing up, from baby air bison to grey-haired siblings, and the maturation process has made this a phenomenal season of animated television.
AV Club

Korra: Book Three's "Old Wounds" was a return to form for Lin, who confronted her past both internally (via awesome flashbacks) and externally (via awesome fight sequence).
All in all, "Original Airbenders" wasn't the most pivotal or exciting episode of Book Three, but it did expand on some key character relationships, and it also crafted a standalone story that felt very much like a callback to the original Avatar series.
IGN Old Wounds Review
IGN Original Airbenders Review

Interesting interview with both Bryan Konietzko and Michael Dante DiMartino

"The Legend of Korra" may be a cartoon, but its female protagonist is one of the toughest, most complex on TV
Salon

Pretty much confirms in the interview that once Book 4 is done thats it for Legend of korra
Konietzko: “The Legend of Korra” will wrap with the finale of Book Four. Just like Aang’s journey came to a close in “Avatar: The Last Airbender,” Korra’s arc will reach its conclusion then. One of the things that make these two series so potent is that they are designed to end.
 
Also , didn't korra have a grasp of like 3 elements when she like 5. Clearly she is good at it. Took her a tiny bit to learn air bending, but that was personality problems than any skill wall.
 
Both episodes were mostly there to add background to whatever's coming up next. I have a feeling the show is going to kick it into high gear again next week.
 
The bolded is also a retcon in that it is new information that fundamentally alters how one has to interpret the events that we did see in the original series.

More power to you if you enjoy them, but I don't think the comics have told us very much about TLOK yet. That might change if, as most people expect, The Rift transitions the storyline into being about the building of Republic City. But so far most of the information we've gotten could already be gleaned from the backstory of TLOK, except for some of the specifics, which are more relevant to ATLA and its characters anyway.

It happens in The Promise Part 1, towards the end of the issue, during the first fight between Aang, Katara, and Zuko.

I don't see that as a retcon. We know from the original series was that Zuko could never live up to his father's unreachable expectations and that he was abusive. The Promise just goes into a little more of the specifics.

Never saw the end of Part 1 as a genuine threat either. It only illustrated Aang's internal struggle at the time. The ongoing theme was the conflict between Aang and Roku's philosophies. Aang learning to trust in his own judgement and not lean on his past lives' anymore.

You're getting hung up on the minor details. But, eeh, opinions opinions. I'll agree that the comics aren't on the same level as the original series.
 
Great episodes once again. Really liked the focus on the interactions, the brothers/sisters maturing their relationships and the themes of growing up. Bolin was on point too, haha.

Maybe I'm in the minority but I don't really care that much about what's the deal with Zaheer and company, in the sense that I don't mind that it's not the focus. I mean, I'm looking forward to it but I don't care that it's taking long. I just love that we're getting well-made developmental episodes with good pacing and characterization. It probably could be better tied together with this season's main villains, but I'm just enjoying the ride. Hopefully it all ends on a high note.
 
Where the hell can I watch this season? No episodes on Nick, nothing on Hulu...do I have to iTunes season pass it just to watch it?
 
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