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Racist casting call for "Straight Outta Compton" movie
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theignoramus
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stop being dense. their criteria for ugly, unattractive women is dark black skin and they spell that out.
The bigger picture here is that medium brown and lightskin are better off than dark skin women. Which falls into the whole ''the whiter you look, the better''.
As if a woman like Lupita Nyongo would be in the D category just because she is darkest.
Thing is that women of color come from a variety of shade. But to say that from Earth 2-3 you are bottom of the barrel just because you're darker is crazy.
As if a woman like Lupita Nyongo would be in the D category just because she is darkest.
Thing is that women of color come from a variety of shade. But to say that from Earth 2-3 you are bottom of the barrel just because you're darker is crazy.
enigmatic_alex44
Whenever a game uses "middleware," I expect mediocrity. Just see how poor TLOU looks.
not Beyonce being rated a B
yeah this casting call is racist and disgusting, I'll be avoiding this "film" like the plague
yeah this casting call is racist and disgusting, I'll be avoiding this "film" like the plague
Barbacoatl
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Just how offended you guys really are? Is it A offensive? Or D?
I just hope this social catastrophe doesn't ruin your saturday. Let's blast some Niggas With Attitude and chill.
I just hope this social catastrophe doesn't ruin your saturday. Let's blast some Niggas With Attitude and chill.
She could be either A or D.
Angelus Errare
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Becaues Obama is president and racism is over. If you ignore it, it goes away. I mean is this REALLY racism or is it some other sort of ism?
Why not? Hollywood just hired a bunch of pale white people to portray the role of Egyptians in Ridley Scott's new movie
perfectchaos007
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I see these racial descriptions all the time in my actors access emails. They have to be very specific with their descriptions so they don't waste the actor/actress' time and their own time. I rarely fit the bill.
Barbacoatl
Banned
People can't read, therefore, racism.
There's no defending it.
However, what confuses me is why there is surprise? This is how many movies/shows go. :\
Huh? How is that justification for this?
Yes the crowd back then was black, and that's all the ad could have asked for with some specifics on weight, height like they always do..
They find someone who is able to portray the character via dialogue, emotions and etc..and then they work around it.
The ad in the OP could not be any more blatant.
lem0n
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So what? If they're looking for some darker skinned women that happen to be unattractive, then they sure got the point across. Maybe a little too harsh, like I said initially, but it worked. I don't get why everyone has to get so worked up over everything these days.
They probably want these women for backround characters where dialogue and emotions won't matter.
Angelus Errare
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I like how they don't ask for busted lookin fat light skinned chicks...as if they don't exist or something or they weren't prevalent in Compton.
dream
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The casting call is for extras, with groups C and D presumably aimed to fill the background with women like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ozubc23oxgA
yeah, I know it's for background characters, still doesn't justify it. Could have been done so much better and respectful.
Amazed how you can say "so what?" so casually. And then go on to say to ignore it. Truly is a defence force for everything.
AAHHH I see it's not about attractiveness it's about skin colour.
yeah no reason to get worked up over it. If we ignore racism it'll just go away.
And that makes it okay? Okay...
Steve Youngblood
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Aside from Group A which welcomes all races and skin tones so long as the girls are model-level hot, Groups B-D clearly describe a scale wherein there's a "darker scale equals less attractive" grading system. Couple that with the adjective "poor" in Group D, and it should be obvious why some would take issue with this.
Pretty much. In the context of an NWA movie it might make sense. People might think it was less racist if they didn't put letters in front of each group, but really it's reflective of hip-hop culture. There's a greater emphasis on light-skinned women and exotic/white women because it's more braggadocious.
And, to be truthfully honest, we don't even know what context they would be presented in. For all we know we'll only see the A girls in superficial contexts and they'll highlight D girls in a more personable context. Essentially, they could be presented in the reverse and actually be the opposite of racism. But yeah jumptoconclusionsmat.jpg
The darker the berry
the lower your income is
Barbacoatl
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I don't think the movie intends to make accurate social commentary. It's like trying to find sociology literature hidden in NWA's "fat girl".
dream
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How do we define "okay?" If it's accuracy, then yes. NWA didn't exactly rap about fine white bitches sucking their dicks for some rock; there's a very specific look--and, yes, that includes race--to the hoodrats that they rapped about.
There are no light-skinned hoodrats? The casting call makes a pretty clear distintion between the light-skinned As and Bs and while the last category exclusively asks for darker ones. The implication is clear. Not that this line of thought matters at all in this case, if the studio has a clearly defined vision in which light skinned girls are a prize while darker ones are considered ratchet thats okay, this on the other hand is a casting agency set in reality (as in the real world) that have done a giantic cock up that current society (again, in the real world) considers racist, not to mention that the studio disavowed the casting agency.
People here saying their usual bullshit argument about " respecting creative vision" are essentially suggesting that a corporation, inspired by the movie, is collectively doing some method acting as some racist douche from the 90s, think about how silly that might sound for a second and how far are people willing to entertain supporting such idiocy just as long as they can fight the good fight against those easily offended PC pussies.
Semantics that play haphazardly into negative US black stereotypes. A-D Girls comes off as a tier list for attractiveness, with darker skinned black women described as "poor and out of shape" at the bottom and lighter skinned black women (who look like Beyonce, a highly attractive woman by most standards) ranked at only B. If black people weren't included in the A tier, it would have been a "perfectly" insensitive ranking system.
Maybe not the ones they had experiences with?
Do we have anyone from Compton here to confirm?
lem0n
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How a casting agency words their ad is not much concern to me. Political incorrectness is never something I cared about, it's people looking far to into something that shouldn't be an issue in the first place. I don't expect casting folks to look for white people for a movie based in Hong Kong, or Asian people for a movie based somewhere in Africa. It might seem "racist" but they just want some sort of sense or reality. Yes, I know not ALL people in Compton are D-girls, not all of them are A-girls. Hell, probably half aren't even black. But for a movie by ex-NWA members, they're going to need certain women for certain rolls.
Barbacoatl
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Surely there's someone from Compton, but not straight out of Compton.
You're deflecting from the issue at hand. The casting call is racist. It's not subtle or sugar coated at all. Context of the movie be damned there's no reason why they needed to make a caste system out of this based on skin color.
I'm waiting for the Fat Girl casting announcement, personally.
Except their were probably light skinned hoodrats and the casting call made it clear that they wanted the hoodrats to black (medium to dark skinned is the way it is referred to). So the white and light skinned get to look glamorous while the dark skinned have to be hoodrats. That's the issue. Their creating a caste like system in their casting call.
dream
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If we take films like Boyz N Da Hood and Menace II Society, along with music videos, as being representative of this cultural moment (and I realize that they're not representative of Compton, but this is about NWA's version of Compton), then no.
And to NWA, everything is linked to their blackness ("I call myself a nigga cause my skin won't whiten").
Why should it be subtle or sugar-coated when there is a very clear vision of what they want?
lem0n
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This is so true. Hollywood really is something else.
R10Neymarfan
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The bigger picture here is that medium brown and lightskin are better off than dark skin women. Which falls into the whole ''the whiter you look, the better''.
As if a woman like Lupita Nyongo would be in the D category just because she is darkest.
Thing is that women of color come from a variety of shade. But to say that from Earth 2-3 you are bottom of the barrel just because you're darker is crazy.
Not racist, just preference. Gotta fit to your demographics
lol
I mean nearly all the people in this new Ridley Scott movie about EYGPT are pale white actors which I don't have a problem with, except that they're depicting events in Egypt.
thats what you got out of that post? Yes Ignore the obvious racism
Pseudo_Sam
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This is the NWA movie right? It makes sense they want primarily black actors for the "poor" roles because (I assume) that was the reality for NWA in Compton. It wouldn't make much sense to have a bunch of pasty white girls filling the background of Compton when that specific demographic was, in reality, 90% black. Unless I'm missing something here, which is entirely possible.
Seems like typical casting to me. Would be interesting to see similar casting ads for equivalent role types tho.
Seems like typical casting to me. Would be interesting to see similar casting ads for equivalent role types tho.
R10Neymarfan
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Looked through the ugly models page.
If most of those people are hollywood's definition of ugly, then wow.
Because some of those people are above average in looks.
If most of those people are hollywood's definition of ugly, then wow.
Because some of those people are above average in looks.
Angelus Errare
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Then you can't make the argument that the movie is trying to be accurate to it's time by casting dark skinned ugly fat chicks either.
Again, this is a casting agency, a corporation separate from the studio, when they make a Michael Bay casting they surely resist the urge to make a casting call about "Asian with comically large epicanthus, with buck teeth, thick accent and a gay lisp" even if this is what Michael Bay is asking for, they dont get into character to write this things.
Barbacoatl
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I agree, the movie won't be accurate because it's a movie. Are NWA's songs the only accurate depiction of Compton?
Fuck that.
Angelus Errare
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And since it's not striving for accuracy this casting call has no point at all and is entirely racist.
I've spent summers Compton since I have family there. There are PLENTY of light skinned busted chicks walkin around Compton; plenty of fat hispanic chicks as well.
Were NWA's songs ever an accurate depiction of Compton? I've only been there a few times, but what I saw was a lot different than what's presented in music and film.
lem0n
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I think you're confusing politically incorrect classification as racism
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