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[JB-the-Hunter]

Charizard
Greninja
Sceptile

 

[Red Arremer]

Sure, but I'd imagine their brawl model could even be used as a starting point for their new models. Although my dream scenario would be switching them to Blastoise and Venusaur. That would also be a reasonable explanation for why they weren't revealed alongside Charizard. That would come out to 7 pokemon without mewtwo or 8 pokemon with him. I think that's reasonable.

In comparison to Mario's 5 and Zelda's currently 4... I dunno man.

 

[ReiGun]

Infernape, Serperior, Blastoise (only because Greninja is already in)

I also have to say that while I don't like all the evolutions, I think the base form starters are all fantastic designs. Not a bad one in the bunch.

 

[Makai]

Hitmonlee would be a good Sheik clone

 

[OricWindstar]

Greninja
Torterra
Blaziken

I already like Greninja a lot and think he's great for Smash. Torterra is my favorite starter so yeah. lol

I don't like Blaziken much, but the idea of having a Muay Thai fighter in Smash is just so appealing to me. Bonus points if he could throw out Tiger Shots.

I'm a little over Blaziken because of his over exposure, but he'd have potential for a cool play style. Interested to see him if they ever actually make Pokken Fighters.

All three Final evolution if Hoenn starters. Yes I'm bias as all hell.

Haha, they are an awesome trio. I love Swampert the most, though!

 

[JStein0222]

It's not a secret who the best starters are you guys...

Man if Squirtle evolved to Blastoise and showed up as Smash DLC I would go nuts

 

[SmithnCo]

Prediction:

The Kim Kardashian game will be announced as an eShop downloadable at Comic Con, alongside a newcomer trailer for Kim herself

She'll just be a Peach clone except the side-B will be an instant KO

 

[Loco4Coco]

Prediction:

The Kim Kardashian game will be announced as an eShop downloadable at Comic Con, alongside a newcomer trailer for Kim herself

Can't wait for those POTDs.

 

[TreIII]

I think it's in the best interest for Nintendo that the Pokemon that are currently used as mascots and in the spotlight getting more exposure in Smash. Plus, of course, I would assume they want to keep some stuff for Pokken, and also not seem to have a significant portion of the roster be composed of Pokemon, and have more characters than their other big series (particularly Mario and Zelda).

I can see Pokkén being a definitive contributor, but for a slightly take on the reason you listed. In that case, The Pokémon Company gets to entirely run that show without having to worry about vying for attention from Nintendo's other brands, and can fit into whatever other strategies/tie-in's they have in store.

So, if that be the case? It would make all the more sense why the likes of Blaziken or perhaps even Mewtwo may miss the Smash Boat this time around. They still may get another chance in the form of Pokkén, and perhaps the TPC may actually prefer that.

 

[Gabeking]

Has anyone seen this? That's some legendary hair.

http://youtu.be/ivooWdjniI0

 

[JB-the-Hunter]

Can't wait for those POTDs.

I'll finally be able to get some sleep.

 

[JStein0222]

Hitmonlee would be a good Sheik clone

If we're talking pokemon clones for existing characters...

 

[Neiteio]

Imagine a trailer where Squirtle and Ivysaur appear, but then they evolve all the way into Blastoise and Venusaur :-O

 

[Gartooth]

Not counting Charizard or Greninja since they're in the game already. (although if they weren't I'd probably choose those two anyway)

I'd probably pick Serperior, Delphox, and Feraligatr. Serperior having no limbs would make it an interesting fighter, and I chose Delphox over the fire/fighting starters just because I think a fire / psychic character would make for a more interesting playstyle (especially if Mewtwo isn't back) than the alternatives. Feraligatr is just a personal favorite of mine since Totodile was my first Pokemon. (Got Silver first when I was younger, then went back and played Gen 1 with Yellow)

 

[OricWindstar]

Chesnaught, Infernape, Empoleon

Chesnaught could be smash's first straight up grappler with most of his moves involving him throwing opponents, and his down special being a type of counter with Spiky Shield.

Infernape would be another monkey but with projectiles, and other fire related hi jinks.... or something... hush, I like the thing.

Empoleon would in my mind be a low friction high weight powerhouse who's easily combo'd, but packs a mean punch. Think Ganondorf living in Luigi's slippery world.

Haha, I forgot we had that conversation a while back, so you know I'm a Chestnaut supporter. He'd be a cool Bowser type character with more emphasis on grabs. Your Empoleon concept is really interesting; hard to get a hold of, but easy to damage once you do.

 

[SmithnCo]

I'd choose Charizard, Greninja, and probably Serperior.

Torterra would be interesting too as a slow walking tank but Serperior would be really weird.

 

[JStein0222]

Imagine a trailer where Squirtle and Ivysaur appear, but then they evolve all the way into Blastoise and Venusaur :-O

It's....beautiful

 

[OricWindstar]

It's....beautiful

This is the Blastoise I want:

Replace Charizard with Captain Falcon and you have your reveal trailer.

 

[tonyh24613]

This thread isn't even one week old and it's 133 pages. o_0

 

[SuperSah]

Probably old, but NWR has 3 new direct feed 3DS gameplay videos.

Arena Ferox, Battlefield and Golden Plains with great music and local fights.

 

[theprodigy]

This thread isn't even one week old and it's 133 pages. o_0

damn right, 2/3 of the way through already

 

[forest]

Charizard
Greninja
Sceptile

This would be amazing!

 

[Spinosaurus]

Hitmonlee would be a good Sheik clone

I'd actually take Hitmonlee. Taek Won Do would be nuts.

Hitmonchan COULD be a Lil Mac clone and I wouldn't really care. Though if by chance we get another boxer I'd hope they use outboxing instead of Mike Tyson-styled infighting like fighting games typically do, but that's not something for Smash

Spoiler

I'm pretty into martial arts :V

 

[Neiteio]

damn right, 2/3 of the way through already

Is this the point at which we spend one-fifth of the thread discussing the next thread's name?

 

[Hatchtag]

This thread isn't even one week old and it's 133 pages. o_0

I expect the threads to go by faster as the rate of news increases going into the launch of the games.
If we were to keep one OT for both the games with no spoiler threads...we'd hit at least 15 by the time both versions were out, possibly closer to 20.

 

[OricWindstar]

Probably old, but NWR has 3 new direct feed 3DS gameplay videos.

Arena Ferox, Battlefield and Golden Plains with great music and local fights.

I put them up earlier, but for those that missed them:

Did we discuss this goodness yet? I'm sure you did, but just in case...dat fucking music!

Another video of Golden Plains. Level looks annoying, but the music is pretty nice.

 

[Nickle]

I think the most likely new Pokémon would be Sceptile. That would give us starters from gen 1, 3, and 6, which is nicely spread out, and a fire, water, and grass starter. Meganium, Torterra, and Serperior probably wouldn't make good fighters, and Sceptile had always been popular.

 

[SuperSah]

I put them up earlier, but for those that missed them:

And Battlefield!

The Golden Plains music is real catchy, and that OHKO Mac punch. Damn.

The people playing are reasonably competent, game looks heaps fun.

 

[Neiteio]

I think the most likely new Pokémon would be Sceptile. That would give us starters from gen 1, 3, and 6, which is nicely spread out, and a fire, water, and grass starter. Meganium, Torterra, and Serperior probably wouldn't make good fighters, and Sceptile had always been popular.

Honestly, I think Hawlucha would strike Sakurai as a more interesting pick

 

[theprodigy]

Is this the point at which we spend one-fifth of the thread discussing the next thread's name?

no, we're not at page 160 yet

 

[Nickle]

Have their been any reports on the quality of the online play for either version?

 

[OrangeGrayBlue]

I think the most likely new Pokémon would be Sceptile. That would give us starters from gen 1, 3, and 6, which is nicely spread out, and a fire, water, and grass starter. Meganium, Torterra, and Serperior probably wouldn't make good fighters, and Sceptile had always been popular.

I think that's the best choice.

 

[J-Tier]

I think the most likely new Pokémon would be Sceptile. That would give us starters from gen 1, 3, and 6, which is nicely spread out, and a fire, water, and grass starter. Meganium, Torterra, and Serperior probably wouldn't make good fighters, and Sceptile had always been popular.

Well...Torterra would come very close to potentially being a cross between Squirtle and Ivysaur.

Chances of it being playable are close to zero though.

 

[OricWindstar]

And Battlefield!

The Golden Plains music is real catchy, and that OHKO Mac punch. Damn.

The people playing are reasonably competent, game looks heaps fun.

Oops! Here's the Battlefield. No direct audio, though.

Yeah, 3DS version is looking great, and the Mega Man in Arena Ferox knows what he's doing! The upper punch he does at the end is epic.

 

[munchie64]

Where are the bwahs in Golden Plains?

 

[SenorArdilla]

Honestly, I think Hawlucha would strike Sakurai as a more interesting pick

What if Hawlucha had its design finished when Sakurai asked for a XY Pokemon?

 

[Drago]

Based off my favorite final forms:

Water: Feraligatr
Grass: Sceptile
Fire: Infernape

Yea. They'd all be a ton of fun to fight with too. I'm pretty happy with what we have already though despite the loss of Squirtle and Ivysaur. I'd love to get a grass starter in there to balance it all out but whatever, it doesn't really matter that much to me if we don't.

 

[theprodigy]

Have their been any reports on the quality of the online play for either version?

I don't think so, but one would assume that it is much better than Brawl and hope it is good.

 

[Kyzon]

Haha, I forgot we had that conversation a while back, so you know I'm a Chestnaut supporter. He'd be a cool Bowser type character with more emphasis on grabs. Your Empoleon concept is really interesting; hard to get a hold of, but easy to damage once you do.

Yassss! Chesnaught Nation Unite! I could imagine him having a ton of moves with armor to make his grabbing attacks viable against the faster cast. (Pokken hope still exists). Yeah, with Empoleon would be as much combo bait as Bowser in my mind, but he'd also be able to deal it right back at ya.

 

[Nickle]

Honestly, I think Hawlucha would strike Sakurai as a more interesting pick

I doubt that they would include 2 Pokémon from gen 6, seeing as the game hadn't been released (or announced?) when they decided to make the final roster.


I don't think that Sceptile will be in this Smash, but it is the most likely Pokémon newcomer.

 

[Gartooth]

Does anyone know what Bowser's victory theme is? I was watching gameplay and I can't for the life of me figure out what it is a remix of. (although it could be an original composition for all I know)

 

[PK Gaming]

Charizard used Fire Punch!

It's not very effective...

 

[OricWindstar]

Does anyone know what Bowser's victory theme is? I was watching gameplay and I can't for the life of me figure out what it is a remix of. (although it could be an original composition for all I know)

I believe it's just the normal Mario victory theme with electric guitar. Like Meta-Knight's is to Kirby's.

 

[theprodigy]

Charizard used Fire Punch!

It's not very effective...

should have mega evolved and used Solarbeam /s

 

[SuperSah]

Where are the bwahs in Golden Plains?

Thankfully not there.

Music is solid. Makes that stage all the more interesting.

 

[Gartooth]

I believe it's just the normal Mario victory theme with electric guitar. Like Meta-Knight's is to Kirby's.

Thanks, I couldn't hear it very well in the gameplay footage I was watching.

 

[JStein0222]

Can't believe how many years it has been since Brawl released. Just looked up the dates of all the smash games and it freaked me out

 

[Neiteio]

What if Hawlucha had its design finished when Sakurai asked for a XY Pokemon?

Oh, I'm not saying Hawlucha would trump Greninja. I'm just saying that if Sakurai were to make a second Pokémon newcomer (unlikely), I think Hawlucha would have a better chance than Sceptile. And I say that as someone who actually likes Sceptile better!

I doubt that they would include 2 Pokémon from gen 6, seeing as the game hadn't been released (or announced?) when they decided to make the final roster.


I don't think that Sceptile will be in this Smash, but it is the most likely Pokémon newcomer.

I think Sakurai is more about fun ideas and mechanically interesting characters than "equal representation." I doubt he even thinks of Pokémon in terms of "Gens." He just goes for what's topical and what's interesting.

 

[OricWindstar]

Thanks, I couldn't hear it very well in the gameplay footage I was watching.

No worries. You can actually hear it really clearly in this video.

 

[Kyzon]

I think Sakurai is more about fun ideas and mechanically interesting characters than "equal representation." I doubt he even thinks of Pokémon in terms of "Gens." He just goes for what's topical and what's interesting.

That extends to everything rather than just Pokemon I think. He's not extremely concerned with all of this series rep talk, though he does reach into Nintendo's history to see which franchises have characters he could make into interesting fighters.