Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 10: Against the Odds, We Choose to Hype!

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Yep.

10/10
 
Or sals source is horseshit and just happened to get lucky until now.

No lucina or robin is pretty telling... IMO the leak is bs.
 
I am so god damn paranoid after the Chrom mixup that Sal's source simply got Robin confused for Shulk, though I'm still pretty sure it's just he's either being fed wrong information or is reiterating stuff he saw years ago which is always subject to change.

They clearly aren't 100% right (Rosalina, being completely wrong about the FE newcomers), but 8/11 right characters which involves Wii Fit Trainer, getting Mii's right down to the naming conventions and Villager (which Sakurai had repeatedly said they weren't going to happen) is way too many coincidences for me to think they got lucky.

*feeds paranoia*
 
Whoa, I never considered the fact Robin might've been mistaken for Shulk

I mean, if Sal's source doesn't know shit about Fire Emblem, he might've seen the light-haired Robin and thought "Shulk" and saw Lucina and thought "Chrom" (not knowing the difference).

...erm, sorry to contribute to your paranoia.
The leaker must be dumb as fuck then.

Probably mistook Chorus Men for Ridley.
 
I am so god damn paranoid after the Chrom mixup that Sal's source simply got Robin confused for Shulk, though I'm still pretty sure it's just he's either being fed wrong information or is reiterating stuff he saw years ago which is always subject to change.

I did expect Robin to be Shulk, because I don't play Fire Emblem lol.
But eh. I don't think he gets to playtest it and likely just works in an art department. Probably saw Chrom assets and figured "oh hey it's Chrom."
Remember-whoever the source is was on the project at least as recently as sometime between April and June.

Or sals source is horseshit and just happened to get lucky until now.

No lucina or robin is pretty telling... IMO the leak is bs.

8 out of 11 (with hints of 10 out of 11) and having Wii Fit Trainer and Mii Fighter down to the name likely means he had some inside info. There's levels between being Sakurai and not knowing anything.
 
Or sals source is horseshit and just happened to get lucky until now.

No lucina or robin is pretty telling... IMO the leak is bs.

You don't get lucky guessing Wii Fit trainer and you don't get lucky knowing the development name for Greninja, and you don't get lucky knowing the official name of the Mii Fighters.

It just doesn't happen that he'd be so consistently correct but had just "gotten lucky"
 
I am so god damn paranoid after the Chrom mixup that Sal's source simply got Robin confused for Shulk, though I'm still pretty sure it's just he's either being fed wrong information or is reiterating stuff he saw years ago which is always subject to change.

They clearly aren't 100% right (Rosalina, being completely wrong about the FE newcomers), but 8/11 right characters which involves Wii Fit Trainer, getting Mii's right down to the naming conventions and Villager (which Sakurai had repeatedly said they weren't going to happen) is way too many coincidences for me to think they got lucky.
The leaker clarified after the Robin/Lucina reveal that Shulk is still coming 100%. It wasn't a mixup.

Or sals source is horseshit and just happened to get lucky until now.

No lucina or robin is pretty telling... IMO the leak is bs.
Wii Fit Trainer...

That's all I have to say.
 
*feeds paranoia*
my paranoia is very weight conscious so I tend to over-indulge my delusion instead

BANJO & KAZOOIE HERE WE GO

The leaker clarified after the Robin/Lucina reveal that Shulk is still coming 100%. It wasn't a mixup.
That's (sort of) reassuring they're insisting they know the difference between the two, but did they explain what was up with thinking Chrom was playable? Not mentioning Lucina and Robin is (slightly) less weird considering they didn't know about Rosalina either.
 
Now the question, is the competitive community still on the fence about Smash 4? I understand it doesn't have wave-dashing or lag canceling from what I've heard but what else is keeping it from being "Melee 2.0" for some people? Just curious to see what people say so I can form my own educated conclusion on the matter.
There's a small minority of people who are completely uninterested. Everyone else is approaching with caution and moderate expectations.

Among the main concerns are the same stiff and restricted movement from Brawl, very high landing lag making aerial attacks unsafe, bizarre and inconsistent knockback scaling, combos kind-of sort-of being possible (better than what Brawl had but nowhere near 64 and Melee), balance issues, and the game generally favouring defense.

Wavedashing is kind of irrelevant, really. For whatever reason, a lot of people outside the scene seem to believe that it's some holy all-powerful technique that's intrinsic to the very core of competitive Smash. In reality, it was never that important, and most would agree that future games don't really need it.
Also, is it true Sakurai responded "Have you ever made a game before?" to a competitive player when asked if he could be on the team to help him out with the game? I understand Sakurai's wants to envision Smash 4 as his game and make it the way he wants to but it wouldn't hurt having some people are who are leagues beyond better than him at the game so they can squash any bugs/tactics in the game that might come out later on in the game's lifespan, unless patches/DLC's is something Sakurai is interested in.
Yes, he did say that. It was a joking response to a joking question.
 
I am so god damn paranoid after the Chrom mixup that Sal's source simply got Robin confused for Shulk, though I'm still pretty sure it's just he's either being fed wrong information or is reiterating stuff he saw years ago which is always subject to change.

They clearly aren't 100% right (Rosalina, being completely wrong about the FE newcomers), but 8/11 right characters which involves Wii Fit Trainer, getting Mii's right down to the naming conventions and Villager (which Sakurai had repeatedly said they weren't going to happen) is way too many coincidences for me to think they got lucky.

I think it's more likely that the leaker had a list of names rather than a picture - hence "Pokemon from X/Y." I'm guessing the mix-up with Chrom happened because he saw "character from Awakening" and just assumed it was Chrom. Everything Sakurai has said indicates Chrom was never intended to be on the roster, so I doubt the leaker ever actually *saw* Chrom in the game.

If that's true, then Shulk is safe; he wouldn't have seen Robin and gotten mixed up, he would have read the name Shulk off a list (unless the list said "character from Xenoblade" and it turns out to be one of the other party members, but...that won't happen.)
 
With Shulk still not yet confirmed and with Chrom being relegated to a Final Smash add-on...what if...what if...

Shulk is confirmed in Smash
as a Final Smash of another Xenoblade character? :p
 
I think it's more likely that the leaker had a list of names rather than a picture - hence "Pokemon from X/Y." I'm guessing the mix-up with Chrom happened because he saw "character from Awakening" and just assumed it was Chrom. Everything Sakurai has said indicates Chrom was never intended to be on the roster, so I doubt the leaker ever actually *saw* Chrom in the game.

If that's true, then Shulk is safe; he wouldn't have seen Robin and gotten mixed up, he would have read the name Shulk off a list (unless the list said "character from Xenoblade" and it turns out to be one of the other party members, but...that won't happen.)

You see, the reason I don't know about that is because he managed to correct the name from Mii to Mii Fighter at some point. Plus him hearing rumblings about struggling to finish both Earthbound characters and DLC being considered. I don't think he's seen just a list of names.

(also are you the guy that used to have the gonzo avatar or is that someone else?)

Don't worry, this should be the generation we get Xbox All-Stars Battle Royal

There's almost no way it could possibly be worse than Playstation All-Stars Battle Royal. Making it just Divekick with Xbox characters would end up better.
 
Don't worry, this should be the generation we get Xbox All-Stars Battle Royal
To Microsoft's credit, even they admitted that would be a fucking horrible idea.

ANOTHER EXCUSE TO POST MY FRIEND'S ART

If there's one character I feel that was robbed of being in Smash, it was Banjo.
That was great, but also bittersweet. Totally agree that if Rare was still Nintendo-owned, we'd probably have Banjo/Gruntilda/Joanna Dark by now and Conker/Kameo/some KI rep would probably be getting debated just as much as Ridley.

Fuck the googley-eyed hating heathens, Rare's Nintendo stuff still deserves to be acknowledged and I'm glad Smash gives so many dues to the DKC games.
 
I think it's more likely that the leaker had a list of names rather than a picture - hence "Pokemon from X/Y." I'm guessing the mix-up with Chrom happened because he saw "character from Awakening" and just assumed it was Chrom. Everything Sakurai has said indicates Chrom was never intended to be on the roster, so I doubt the leaker ever actually *saw* Chrom in the game.

If that's true, then Shulk is safe; he wouldn't have seen Robin and gotten mixed up, he would have read the name Shulk off a list (unless the list said "character from Xenoblade" and it turns out to be one of the other party members, but...that won't happen.)

so you're telling me Melia has a chance

lol

Doritos and Baja Blast top tier.

I see you were watching Evo!
 
You don't get lucky guessing Wii Fit trainer and you don't get lucky knowing the development name for Greninja, and you don't get lucky knowing the official name of the Mii Fighters.

It just doesn't happen that he'd be so consistently correct but had just "gotten lucky"
It doesn't take Nostradamus to guess " Pokemon from X and Y" which was what the prediction was, wasn't it? Wii Fit trainer was pretty neat though and I'll admit that seems like inside knowledge but it doesn't verify the rest.

Mii Fighters is whatever. Didn't people think Miis were going to be in brawl too? Not that farfetched.

I just don't put that much stock in these "my friend works at Nintendo" style leaks. Its like the kid in the playground telling you about the secret new Pokémon game that's coming out that his dad got from Japan- imaginary bullshit.

How does this leaker seem to get new info but still be out of the loop on things like Rosalina? If its old info its as good as useless anyway.
 
Don't worry, this should be the generation we get Xbox All-Stars Battle Royal

Sooo... Master Chief, Marcus Fenix, Banjo, Conquer, Crackdown guy, a Forza car, an Avatar with Day One clothing DLC, and an NHL player? =p With Don Mattrick as a Master Hand replacement since everyone will want to beat him up

I kid, XBOX is aight
 
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Pic of the day. Robin's Nosferatu is the first ability in the Smash Bros. series that recovers your damage as it gives damage to others. The attack becomes even stronger if you strike from behind! Robin doesn't actually use this ability in the original game, but we added that element to make the character unique. Who knows--the ideas we use in this game may contribute to the original series.
I can go to bed early, it seems.
 
Sooo... Master Chief, Marcus Fenix, Banjo, Conquer, Crackdown guy, a Forza car, an Avatar with Day One clothing DLC, and an NHL player? =p With Don Mattrick as a Master Hand replacement since everyone will want to beat him up

I kid, XBOX is aight

you forgot Cortana doing, uh....something
 
It doesn't take Nostradamus to guess " Pokemon from X and Y" which was what the prediction was, wasn't it? Wii Fit trainer was pretty neat though and I'll admit that seems like inside knowledge but it doesn't verify the rest.

Mii Fighters is whatever. Didn't people think Miis were going to be in brawl too? Not that farfetched.

I just don't put that much stock in these "my friend works at Nintendo" style leaks. Its like the kid in the playground telling you about the secret new Pokémon game that's coming out that his dad got from Japan- imaginary bullshit

1) No one guessed the name Mii Fighters. He did.
2) The leaker has never admitted to what his relation to the team was up until he was wrong on Shulk's reveal, at which point he admitted to working for Namco.
3) Believe it or not, last year's biggest Nintendo leak was "my friend tests for Nintendo." I mean, the guy who leaked it was dumb enough that he ruined his friend's life, but yeah.
 
It doesn't take Nostradamus to guess " Pokemon from X and Y" which was what the prediction was, wasn't it? Wii Fit trainer was pretty neat though and I'll admit that seems like inside knowledge but it doesn't verify the rest.

Mii Fighters is whatever. Didn't people think Miis were going to be in brawl too? Not that farfetched.

I just don't put that much stock in these "my friend works at Nintendo" style leaks. Its like the kid in the playground telling you about the secret new Pokémon game that's coming out that his dad got from Japan- imaginary bullshit
He didn't just guess Miis, he named them specifically as Mii Fighters. Any person could guess Miis, but it takes something to name them specifically by what they're called in game. Especially after successfully leaking several new comers that we're not likely, like villager, who Sakurai had specifically said would not work in smash bros

He's never said what his relationship is to Nintendo or namco.
 
You see, the reason I don't know about that is because he managed to correct the name from Mii to Mii Fighter at some point. Plus him hearing rumblings about struggling to finish both Earthbound characters and DLC being considered. I don't think he's seen just a list of names.

He could have had more than just a list of names, but I don't think he saw character models or anything - otherwise, how could he have named Chrom but missed Robin? I only meant to cast doubt on the idea that he saw Robin and confused him for Shulk.

(also are you the guy that used to have the gonzo avatar or is that someone else?)

Nope, I've had General Guy since the day I joined.
 
He could have had more than just a list of names, but I don't think he saw character models or anything - otherwise, how could he have named Chrom but missed Robin? I only meant to cast doubt on the idea that he saw Robin and confused him for Shulk.



Nope, I've had General Guy since the day I joined.

Perhaps he doesn't do work with all the models. Suppose you never saw a Robin one, but saw Chrom's model? It's fairly detailed. If I saw that, I'd say, "oh shit, Chrom's gonna be playable." But yeah, it's definitely not a case of confusion since he does say he saw Shulk.

and I must have confused you with someone else then.
 
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