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[Gintamen]

I'll quote your first post, in case you forget the contents.

You bolded her last name. How does her last name make her biased?

You've been called enough times already to let me realize that you aim for nothing constructive. Again, a jewish name will most likely mean that she has ties to israel, creating some kind of bias. I'm not an anti-semit, but I certainly have something against liars, warmongers and many actions the israeli government and it's a lot of the ultra orthodox people have done to the palestinians. Those peaceful people of israel, jews and palestinians alike, have all my pity as they have to suffer because of the radical and nationalistic actions of both sides of the conflict.

I'm assuming you were in favor of Ayman Mohyeldin getting pulled from covering Gaza for NBC News? Because with a name like that...

There is a certain gap in coverage between FOX and NBC, hmm.. what could it be, just what could it be..

 

[Chariot]

Who were struck again while running away.

Exactly. This was no accident. Israel is not willingly on childkilling spree, but they're certainly not above consciously killing them.

 

[kamorra]

Who were struck again while running away.

Good. They've probably had stashes of rockets hiding inside these kids. Dirty terrorists.

 

[WonkyPanda]

With the way the media portrays this conflict, I don't blame them.

There's actually a great doc, maybe it was vice, that follows the funding into israel. The single, biggest contributor WORLDWIDE to Israel is midwestern evangelical christians. Not even AIPAC comes close.

EDIT:

found most of it, I think: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PLIWZj5Buk

EDIT2: Oh, it's just the debrief. Good enough.

 

[nib95]

Absolute must watch:

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2014/07/plos-hanan-ashrawi-deliberate-massacre-in-gaza/

Good article and video. Nice to hear the other side from the US media from time to time.

looooool

U.S Media woohoo!

By Joel Greenberg of Washington Post. What an absolute disgrace.

Anyone have his Twitter handle? I'd like to personally show my utter disgust for this article and headline of his. He can't even bring himself to identify the "others" or these "people" as Palestinians.

 

[MutFox]

When soldiers kill civilians in other armies there's repercussions.
Is the IDF doing anything to their soldiers?

 

[Skyzard]

Exactly. This was no accident. Israel is not willingly on childkilling spree, but they're certainly not above consciously killing them.

Their MP, Ayelet Shaked, described them as little snakes, growing into terrorists whose mothers should be killed.

I can imagine soldiers mentality running thicker.

 

[Linkhero1]

Stay safe friend.

Sad to hear the family of the 4 boys on the beach got their home bombed. That's just sick.

Thanks. I'm just hoping they don't send me back due to the current conflict going on. They're known to turn people away.

There's actually a great doc, maybe it was vice, that follows the funding into israel. The single, biggest contributor WORLDWIDE to Israel is midwestern evangelical christians. Not even AIPAC comes close.

EDIT:

found most of it, I think: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PLIWZj5Buk

EDIT2: Oh, it's just the debrief. Good enough.

I'm not surprised. They believe that their Messiah will return once Israel controls all of Palestine or something like that. I'll watch the video as soon as I can.

 

[Dude Abides]

Surely someone named Joel Greenberg won't be biased at all.

I think we can be opposed to what Israel's doing, and the terrible media coverage of it, without resorting to Jew-baiting, don't you?

Good article and video. Nice to hear the other side from the US media from time to time.



By Joel Greenberg of Washington Post. What an absolute disgrace.

Anyone have his Twitter handle? I'd like to personally show my utter disgust for this article and headline of his. He can't even bring himself to identify the "others" or these "people" as Palestinians.

I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think the wire reporter typically writes the head or the sub-head.

 

[Freezie KO]

Good article and video. Nice to hear the other side from the US media from time to time.

The mainstream media is so biased, except when they report on the side you like. Then they're just presenting "the other side." The cognitive dissonance must be stressful for you.

 

[m_shortpants]

http://www.alternativenews.org/engl...-raping-palestinian-women-would-deter-attacks

.....

 

[FreedomFighter]

I don't know if this has been posted already (it's days old so maybe), but I think this is a really good interview between John Snow (Channel 4 news anchor) and Mark Regev (Chief spokesman of the Prime Minister of Israel).

Also, notice how each and every Israeli or Israeli sympathizer are using the exact same talking points:

1). Israel is defending itself.
2). Hamas is using Palestineans as human sheilds
3). 10-year old boys playing football on a beach and getting shelled (along with any other civilian casualties) are ultimately Hamas' fault for not taking the (completely BS) "peace deal".

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

I don't think posting the views of crazy individuals and applying them to either Israel or Palestine as a whole is not a right thing to do.

 

[inm8num2]

All these media headlines are truly disgusting. Unsurprising, but disgusting.

 

[Vire]

Absolute must watch:

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2014/07/plos-hanan-ashrawi-deliberate-massacre-in-gaza/

She poo poo's the rockets being sent over to Israel and yet one of the rockets sent from Hamas struck an Israeli kindergarten. Then she goes on to say how incredibly distraught she is over the innocent people being affected by this atrocity.

The hypocrisy is hard to ignore.

 

[Chariot]

When soldiers kill civilians in other armies there's repercussions.
Is the IDF doing anything to their soldiers?

Ha. They didn't kill civilians, only Hamas and helpers, yes.

Their MP, Ayelet Shaked, described them as little snakes, growing into terrorists whose mothers should be killed.

I can imagine soldiers mentality running thicker.

Yeah, I hate the Nazi thing, but that's what happend to the Wehrmacht. Neither the majority IDF soldiers nor the majority if the Wehrmacht are and were evil demons from hell. There were normal people who were misled by propaganda into thinking that killing their enemies were ok, because they were a threat and not worth as much as their own people. The fun of propaganda.

 

[WonkyPanda]

Thanks. I'm just hoping they don't send me back due to the current conflict going on. They're known to turn people away.


I'm not surprised. They believe that their Messiah will return once Israel controls all of Palestine or something like that. I'll watch the video as soon as I can.

To be fair, it's not all that different from the whole Dabbat al-Ard, Mahdi, Christians into Muslims. I believe also that Dajjal (spelling?) gathers an army of jews and then the muslims beat them, with or without Jesus, I don't really remember the Hadith.

it's all bonkers, honestly. Sorry to offend anyone.

 

[Toxi]

Do you believe Israel's claims when they say Hamas store weapon caches in hospitals, schools, ect?

I don't know and honestly don't care. Bombing a hospital because you claim a weapon cache is stored there is not justifiable. Bombing a hospital period is not justifiable.

Neither is using weapons designed to indiscriminately kill as many people as possible, like, say, flechettes.

You've been called enough times already to let me realize that you aim for nothing constructive. Again, a jewish name will most likely mean that she has ties to israel, creating some kind of bias. I'm not an anti-semit, but I certainly have something against liars, warmongers and many actions the israeli government and it's a lot of the ultra orthodox people have done to the palestinians. Those peaceful people of israel, jews and palestinians alike, have all my pity as they have to suffer because of the radical and nationalistic actions of both sides of the conflict.

First, "Jewish" names aren't exclusive to Jewish populations.

Secondly, many Jewish people do not support Israel's actions. You are stereotyping.

 

[Slurpy2k20]

She poo poo's the rockets being sent over to Israel and yet one of the rockets sent from Hamas struck an Israeli kindergarten. Then she goes on to say how incredibly distraught she is over the innocent people being affected by this atrocity.

The hypocrisy is hard to ignore.

Hypocrisy? How many children have been killed in Israel from rocket attacks? Last I checked, isn't it ZERO? Where's the fucking hypocrisy? You're the only hypocrite here, who wants people to equate a death count of ZERO children killed on the Israeli side and HUNDREDS on the Gaza side as somehow equal. Isn't it right to acknowledge a discrepancy and that the deaths are all one-sided?

Seriously- what the fuck is wrong with you? What kind of person could watch heart-wrenching interview regarding the slaughtered children in Gaza- and their only reaction is demanding sympathy for the non-existent Israeli children deaths? What kind of person, besides a hopeless bigot, would even think that way?

 

[kamorra]

She poo poo's the rockets being sent over to Israel and yet one of the rockets sent from Hamas struck an Israeli kindergarten. Then she goes on to say how incredibly distraught she is over the innocent people being affected by this atrocity.

The hypocrisy is hard to ignore.

Does cherry picking help you to cope with this shit?

 

[Toxi]

She poo poo's the rockets being sent over to Israel and yet one of the rockets sent from Hamas struck an Israeli kindergarten. Then she goes on to say how incredibly distraught she is over the innocent people being affected by this atrocity.

The hypocrisy is hard to ignore.

If you care so much about innocent people, how about you suggest Israel stop illegally occupying territory, stop butchering the people there, and use that sweet 3 billion+ a year weapons moolah we send them to actually provide some innocent people with building resources and food.

Or you could keep killing them until they believe there's no other option besides sending rockets at your kindergartens.

 

[Kinitari]

I think we can be opposed to what Israel's doing, and the terrible media coverage of it, without resorting to Jew-baiting, don't you?

Is jew-baiting a real phrase? I just picture like a bagel with the works hanging over my head. Man, now I want a bagel with the works.

Also... yeah for people who see a Jewish name and immediately think "Zionist supporter" or think that someones judaism is the reason they support Israel, you're likely to fall into the same mindset that you would probably condemn if someone saw a Muslim name and thought... well... anything. My name is super Muslim and I sure as fuck don't like it when people make assumptions based off that.

 

[Gintamen]

First, "Jewish" names aren't exclusive to Jewish populations.

Secondly, many Jewish people do not support Israel's actions. You are stereotyping.

She certainly reaffirmed my point though. See I don't really care, I qualified that she may have a a bias in some way, pro or contra. I also added a passage saying that the peaceful people, which are surely the huge majority seek to live in harmony with each otrher. If you seek conflict, pick is somewhere else please.

 

[rashbeep]

She poo poo's the rockets being sent over to Israel and yet one of the rockets sent from Hamas struck an Israeli kindergarten. Then she goes on to say how incredibly distraught she is over the innocent people being affected by this atrocity.

The hypocrisy is hard to ignore.

I can't tell if you or that pilgor guy are just trolling at this point.

 

[Vire]

Hypocrisy? How many children have been killed in Israel? Last I checked, it's ZERO? Where's the fucking hypocrisy? You're the only hypocrite here, who someone wants people to equate a death count of ZERO children killed on the Israeli side and HUNDREDS on the Gaza side as somehow equal. Seriously- what the fuck is wrong with you?

The rockets are being sent to all parts of Tel Aviv and Jerusalem. Hamas aren't discriminating and only sending to certain parts of Israel where only IDF military officials are.

No. They are sending it all across Israel, thankfully the kindergarten was not active when the rocket had struck. Otherwise we would be looking at countless children killed on the Israeli side. The only reason children haven't been killed is because of Israel's defense system, not because of the some sort of restraint on the part of Hamas.

 

[nib95]

The mainstream media is so biased, except when they report on the side you like. Then they're just presenting "the other side." The cognitive dissonance must be stressful for you.

It's not cognitive dissidence it's just fact. The US media is massively biased in favour of the Israeli side, so many examples of which have been posted in this very thread. Seeing or hearing the Palestinian side at any great length from any prominent speaker is a rarity (in mainstream news, not in social media), and is the reason why the video posted is something I welcome.

But keep burying your head in the sand and ignoring all the evidence around you if it makes you feel any better.

 

[MutFox]

Does cherry picking help you to cope with this shit?

Nationalistic/Religious pride can justify atrocities.
It's caused horrible incidents throughout history.

You just have to disconnect yourself at times.

 

[Johnny Cage In The Shower]

I think we can be opposed to what Israel's doing, and the terrible media coverage of it, without resorting to Jew-baiting, don't you?



I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think the wire reporter typically writes the head or the sub-head.

I think it's worth to point out how twisted and biased Western media is though towards this conflict, this is nothing new, but it's kinda getting tiring. Yes we shouldn't judge journalist or "Human rights attorneys" by their last names on WP and FOX News but... We should demand fair and unbiased reporting in the US. no matter the network.

I was actually pleasantly surprised by the ABC article and video above, I wish more Western media outlets did that kind of reporting, where we don;t have to shake our heads every second and check the background and credibility of the "journalists", "lawyers" we're forced fed to listen to on TV.

 

[NullPointer]

Hypocrisy? How many children have been killed in Israel from rocket attacks? Last I checked, isn't it ZERO?

This doesn't seem like a fair argument to make. The fact that Israel has a stellar missile defense system doesn't wash away the intent behind those rockets to inflict random civilian casualties.

Hamas would love to cause mass casualties with their weapons on the civilian population if they could. Or do you think that's an unfair assumption and those rockets are purposefully meant to miss?

There is plenty of hypocrisy to go around in all of this.

 

[kamorra]

The only reason children haven't been killed is because of Israel's defense system, not because of the some sort of restraint on the part of Hamas.

You know, Israel's defense system actually killed children. Or should I call them others?

 

[Vire]

This doesn't seem like a fair argument to make. The fact that Israel has a stellar missile defense system doesn't wash away the intent behind those rockets to inflict random civilian casualties.

Hamas would love to cause mass casualties with their weapons, if they could. Or do you think that's an unfair assumption and those rockets are purposefully meant to miss?

Thank you.

 

[Gintamen]

The rockets are being sent to all parts of Tel Aviv and Jerusalem. Hamas aren't discriminating and only sending to certain parts of Israel where only IDF military officials are.

No. They are sending it all across Israel, thankfully the kindergarten was not active when the rocket had struck. Otherwise we would be looking at countless children killed on the Israeli side. The only reason children haven't been killed is because of Israel's defense system, not because of the some sort of restraint on the part of Hamas.

Despite whatever Paradoxal_Utopia is writing I doubt that he's condoning the rocket attacks either. Yeah it's stupid to say it killed no children that day, when it's all thanks to Iron Dome and I hope P_U will realize it somehow. What he writes about your appearance in the post below is right too though. Can you in any way show some sympathy for the other side instead of slapping it away with "I don't condone that either"? Does it really matter who's children they are, all of those little fellas are innocent.

Can those that approve andcondone any kind of rocket attacks highlight themself with a bolded text so we can move on with this highly stupid back an forth please?

 

[Slurpy2k20]

The rockets are being sent to all parts of Tel Aviv and Jerusalem. Hamas aren't discriminating and only sending to certain parts of Israel where only IDF military officials are.

No. They are sending it all across Israel, thankfully the kindergarten was not active when the rocket had struck. Otherwise we would be looking at countless children killed on the Israeli side. The only reason children haven't been killed is because of Israel's defense system, not because of the some sort of restraint on the part of Hamas.

I couldn't give 2 fucks WHY there has been no Israeli children killed. The fact is, there are none. The problem I have is that the only reaction you have after watching that video is asking about the Israeli children- when, as a fact, NONE HAVE DIED OR BEEN INJURED. You're demanding that instead of sympathizing with the 200+ dead Palestinian children, people sympathize with the imaginary dead Israeli children- of which there are none, except in your hypothetical scenarios.

I'm not sure if you realize just how much of an unbalanced bigot you come across as. I don't think you're self-aware at all. You've yet to show a shred of sympathy for the death of a palestinian child, and instead, would prefer to heap it on imaginary Israeli children. Its utterly despicable.

PS- not once have I ever condoned the rocket attacks, nor will I ever do so. But the fact that you don't see a difference between 0 deaths and hundreds is stunning.

 

[LNBL]

(Gaza) – Israel should cease attacks that cause loss of civilian life and property in violation of the laws of war. Human Rights Watch investigated eight Israeli airstrikes that were apparent violations of the laws of war before the ground offensive that began on July 17, 2014. The findings and reports of numerous new civilian casualties heightened concerns for the safety of civilians during the ground offensive.

“After Israeli missiles killed boys on a beach and repeatedly struck a well-marked hospital, one can only be gravely concerned for the safety of civilians caught up in the ground offensive,” said Eric Goldstein, deputy Middle East and North Africa director. “Israel needs to do more than try to explain away unlawful attacks – it needs to stop them.”

The attacks Human Rights Watch investigated include a missile attack that killed four boys on a Gaza City pier and wounded three others, multiple strikes over several days on a hospital for paralyzed and elderly patients, attacks on an apparent civilian residence and media worker’s car, and four previously documented strikes. In many, if not all, of these cases, Human Rights Watch found no evidence of a military target. Israeli forces’ failure to direct attacks at a military target violates the laws of war. Israeli forces may also have knowingly or recklessly attacked people who were clearly civilians, such as young boys, and civilian structures, including a hospital – laws-of-war violations that are indicative of war crimes.

http://www.hrw.org/news/2014/07/22/gaza-airstrike-deaths-raise-concerns-ground-offensive

I'll repeat.

In many, if not all, of these cases, Human Rights Watch found no evidence of a military target. Israeli forces’ failure to direct attacks at a military target violates the laws of war. Israeli forces may also have knowingly or recklessly attacked people who were clearly civilians, such as young boys, and civilian structures, including a hospital – laws-of-war violations that are indicative of war crimes.

Israeli airstrikes and tank fire hit the Wafa Rehabilitation Hospital on three days from July 11 to July 17, wounding four patients and staff. While Israel gave various warnings before the attacks, the chronically ill, elderly, and paralyzed patients – none of them mobile – could not be moved quickly or without grave risk to their health.

The laws of war place obligations on all parties to ensure that the wounded and sick receive medical care. Hospitals have special legal protections and may be attacked only if being used to commit acts harmful to the enemy. Israeli claims that armed groups were launching rockets 100 meters from the hospital was insufficient justification for repeatedly striking the hospital. The warnings did not remedy the illegality of repeatedly striking a hospital without a lawful military justification. The fact that Israel used accurate missiles, as well as direct tank fire, yet still struck the hospital, suggests intentional or reckless attacks on the hospital, which are war crimes.

I could honestly highlight the whole article.

Israel has provided no justification for the attack on the Ghannam home, as far as Human Rights Watch has been able to determine. If its forces struck the house without verifying a military target, the attack was an unlawful attack on a civilian structure. If the house was attacked to punish the Ghannam family for the involvement of relatives in attacks on Israel, it was a form of collective punishment in violation of the laws of war.

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

I couldn't give 2 fucks WHY there has been no Israeli children killed. The fact is, there are none. The problem I have is that the only reaction you have after watching that video is asking about the Israeli children- when, as a fact, NONE HAVE DIED OR BEEN INJURED. You're demanding that instead of sympathizing with the 200+ dead Palestinian children, people sympathize with the imaginary dead Israeli children- of which there are none, except in your hypothetical scenarios.

I'm not sure if you realize just how much of an unbalanced bigot you come across as. I don't think you're self-aware at all. You've yet to show a shred of sympathy for the death of a palestinian child, and instead, would prefer to heap it on imaginary Israeli children. Its utterly despicable.

PS- not once have I ever condoned the rocket attacks, nor will I ever do so. But the fact that you don't see a difference between 0 deaths and hundreds is stunning.

The point being made is that it's not viable to live with rockets being fired at you just because there's a system there that should protect you. Keep in mind the system is not 100%. You have to see it from both sides, not to mention there's no defense against some of the sneaking through tunnels that is occurring.

 

[RustyNails]

The "they have jewish names therefore they are biased" is dumb. Its like no one ever heard about Norman Finkelstein.

 

[Vire]

I couldn't give 2 fucks WHY there has been no Israeli children killed. The problem I have is that the only reaction you have after watching that video is asking about the Israeli children- when, as a fact, NONE HAVE DIED OR BEEN INJURED. You're demanding that instead of sympathizing with the 200+ dead Palestinian children, people sympathize with the imaginary dead Israeli children- of which there are none, except in your hypothetical scenarios.

I'm not sure if you realize just how much of an unbalanced bigot you come across as. I don't think you're self-aware at all. You've yet to show a shred of sympathy for the death of a palestinian child, and instead, would prefer to heap it on imaginary Israeli children. Its utterly despicable.

PS- not once have I ever condoned the rocket attacks, nor will I ever do so. But the fact that you don't see a difference between 0 deaths and hundreds is stunning.

No you missed the point entirely. In the video you linked, the Palestinian woman acted like the Hamas were on some sort of moral high ground when it came to civilian casualties when the intent was exactly the same on both sides.

To harm innocent civilians.

Period. I'm not going to argue with you further about this because it's black and white.

 

[Slurpy2k20]

http://www.hrw.org/news/2014/07/22/gaza-airstrike-deaths-raise-concerns-ground-offensive

I'll repeat.

In many, if not all, of these cases, Human Rights Watch found no evidence of a military target. Israeli forces’ failure to direct attacks at a military target violates the laws of war. Israeli forces may also have knowingly or recklessly attacked people who were clearly civilians, such as young boys, and civilian structures, including a hospital – laws-of-war violations that are indicative of war crimes.

AAHH I CANT HEAR YOU HAMAS HAMAS HAMAS HAMAS HUMAN SHIELDS HUMAN SHIELDS

The response to your post by Vire etc will be the above, just using a few more words. For them, an infinite amount of palestinian deaths is almost equal to Hamas' "intent" to harm, and the fact that pretty much all these human-shield claims have turned out to be bullshit won't faze them.

Genocidal apologists at their worst.

 

[Gintamen]

Period. I'm not going to argue with you further about this because it's black and white.

Nothing is black and white.

Paradoxal_Utopia blames Vire for not caring for the gaza people.
Vire blames Paradoxal_Utopia for not caring for the israeli people.

Both of you could show some sympathy for the other side.

 

[kamorra]

No you missed the point entirely. In the video you linked, the Palestinian woman acted like the Hamas were on some sort of moral high ground when it came to civilian casualties when the intent was exactly the same on both sides.

To harm innocent civilians.

Period. I'm not going to argue with you further about this because it's black and white.

So now you're saying that both sides intend to harm innocent civilians?

 

[Freezie KO]

http://www.hrw.org/news/2014/07/22/gaza-airstrike-deaths-raise-concerns-ground-offensive

“After Israeli missiles killed boys on a beach and repeatedly struck a well-marked hospital, one can only be gravely concerned for the safety of civilians caught up in the ground offensive,” said Eric Goldstein, deputy Middle East and North Africa director. “Israel needs to do more than try to explain away unlawful attacks – it needs to stop them.”[/

Goldstein, huh? With that name, he would be concerned about Palestinian civilians...

 

[Vire]

AAHH I CANT HEAR YOU HAMAS HAMAS HAMAS HAMAS HUMAN SHIELDS HUMAN SHIELDS

The response to your post by Vire etc will be the above, just using a few more words. For them, an infinite amount of palestinian deaths is almost equal to Hamas' "intent" to harm, and the fact that pretty much all these human-shield claims have turned out to be bullshit won't faze them.

Genocidal apologists at their worst.

Are you saying they just shot the rockets at Israel for shits and giggles? What was the purpose of shooting thousands of rockets other than to kill random innocent civilians and cause fear?

 

[Johnny Cage In The Shower]

The "they have jewish names therefore they are biased" is dumb. Its like no one ever heard about Norman Finkelstein.

I don't think people here are saying Jewish name = biased....

I'd imagine others also see it as a "Chris Rock: But I understand" syndrome.

One of my main heroes and inspirations in life: Hrant Dink had a Turkish last name, just saying.

 

[Pilgor]

I don't think people here are saying Jewish name = biased....

Hmm.

Surely someone named Joel Greenberg won't be biased at all.

 

[Toxi]

The rockets are being sent to all parts of Tel Aviv and Jerusalem. Hamas aren't discriminating and only sending to certain parts of Israel where only IDF military officials are.

No. They are sending it all across Israel, thankfully the kindergarten was not active when the rocket had struck. Otherwise we would be looking at countless children killed on the Israeli side. The only reason children haven't been killed is because of Israel's defense system, not because of the some sort of restraint on the part of Hamas.

I don't think anyone's claiming restraint on the part of Hamas.

Please stop killing hundreds of innocent people. I understand you have some terrible neighbors. But please stop killing hundreds of innocent people in an attack that will end up accomplishing nothing in the long run.

No you missed the point entirely. In the video you linked, the Palestinian woman acted like the Hamas were on some sort of moral high ground when it came to civilian casualties when the intent was exactly the same on both sides.

To harm innocent civilians.

Period. I'm not going to argue with you further about this because it's black and white.

Do you think Israel should be on the same moral ground as the assholes who fire rockets at kindergartens?

 

[Carcetti]

Are you saying they just shot the rockets at Israel for shits and giggles? What was the purpose of shooting thousands of rockets other than to kill random innocent civilians and cause fear?

Are you going for the root causes of this conflict and why the peace process isn't working? Well, I for one would like a pro-Israeli poster to tell me what purpose the settler settlements serve for Israel and how Palestinians are supposed to choose a peaceful resistance when they're slowly squeezed out of their living space by a heavily armed occupying force?

 

[Johnny Cage In The Shower]

Hmm.

^ please see the post above yours

Danke

 

[kamorra]

Must be nice to be able to concentrate on the little things like this name discussion. It certainly helps to ignore the bigger problem.

 

[m_shortpants]

Are you going for the root causes of this conflict and why the peace process isn't working? Well, I for one would like a pro-Israeli poster to tell me what purpose the settler settlements serve for Israel and how Palestinians are supposed to choose a peaceful resistance when they're slowly squeezed out of their living space by a heavily armed occupying force?

This post will not be responded to.

 

[LNBL]

What do the people that support the IDF's actions think about the report of Human Rights Watch? I'm really interested.