Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 10: Against the Odds, We Choose to Hype!
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That's a great idea.
Yeah, would be fantastic. Surprised it wasn't included before
OricWindstar
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I really like the idea of it as a taunt. She should pull it out and play the "I just solved a puzzle" jingle from Zelda.
Yeah, like Toon Link uses the wind waker. It could be a way to get the jingle in too since Zelda can't transform anymore.
...so, like, black powder bombs actually predated the early 1900s and while the modern idea of a 'hand grenade' spun out of WW1-era technology, people were using gunpowder to blow shit up way beforehand, especially in east Asia. Black powder bombs and other shrapnel-type weapons like black eggs see a huge association with ninjas, as well. It's a common weapon in tons of ninja media (either as actual explosives or smoke bombs). Sheik is a ninja and most of her attacks and abilities (like her needles, which also aren't 'actually' part of her canon character or her smoke bomb) reflect that. Grenades are perfectly consistent within that motif.
I just can't see how you can claim that grenades absolutely make no sense for Sheik when you're suggesting that they literally make up a new feature to an otherwise ordinary item purely to justify it being there. I can't help but raise my eyebrows when someone is saying 'x would be perfect if x were y'. Especially when it's a little contrary to her running motif in the context of her current playstyle and Smash.
The harp would be a fantastic taunt, though.
You can blame Nintendo of America for localizing the new move as "Burst Grenade," but it's really just a fictional weapon based on primitive technology. Explosives have been around for a thousand years. It's no more nonsensical than Link's bombs, and he comes from the same series/time period as Sheik.
A harp translates much easier to the "slash slash charge" type of gameplay from musou games than it would in a game like Smash, in my opinion. Secondly lots of LoZ games have cannon fire, bombs, and other powder-based explosives, a grenade is not really that out of place.
Plus OoT had a Jukebox, just saying.
Lord_Byron28
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I disagree completely with the grenade since again it was invented in the early 1900's and Sheik is a character from medieval fantasy period.
However I do get your point of the character and flow that a harp might mess up. With that said I think a quick strum of the harp creating a small burst of wind would be interesting and still work with the flow of her character. Itd also be a greater service to her character and the series since music is incredibly important to the series and the series is full of magical instruments. I dont think it'd interrupt the characters flow anymore than the darts or charging the darts were.
Anyway I see I'm in the minority here so I'll leave it be. Perhaps Zelda having music based elemental attacks would work better since she is a magic user and has used a variety of magical instruments throughout the series such as the Goddess' Lyre, Ocarina of Time and Spirit Flute.
Now I want this guy to be an assist trophy that plays the song of storm which causes wind and rain.
If link can use bombs, sheik can use grenades.
Now I want this guy to be an assist trophy that plays the song of storm which causes wind and rain.
If link can use bombs, sheik can use grenades.
This is the type of character I want in Hyrule Musou
The pull-and-throw "pineapple" grenade was invented in the early 1900s. Rudimentary grenades have existed for a long time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grenade#Early_grenades
And again, there are bombs, cannons, jukeboxes, trains, and general anachronism pervading the Zelda series as a whole.
Starphoenix
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At some point you have to realize there is a suspension of disbelief with some of these games. Going in depth about what should or not exist based upon the look of the timeframe Zelda is set in is a little overboard, especially as the series seems to be incorporating more steam-punk elements, which is inherently fantastic in nature.
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OricWindstar
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I missed this post. I'm right here! I just hate screaming trying to get everyone to love a character I happen to like. And I know his chances are pretty close to 0%.
Speaking of annoying Geno fans, how many of these type of posts are we going to see on NeoGAF once the final roster is revealed?
Speaking of screaming about a character with chances close to 0%, I tried thinking up a moveset for Waddle Dee, but I can't think of any suitable side specials and I'm running a blank on standard moves.
Anybody got ideas, just for kicks? I feel like he can work, if we believe hard enough.
Anybody got ideas, just for kicks? I feel like he can work, if we believe hard enough.
Starphoenix
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Can incorporate the Parasol ability for the side specials. Have WD slide forward spinning a parasol, maybe even reflecting certain attacks.
An ode to the Parasol Waddle Dees.
A jousting lunge seems like an obvious (if not boring) choice.
Body slam.
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You are holding SmashGAF's pride. We expect to see a crown.Tomorrow at 7AM, I fly to San Diego. I'll be up at 5AM.
In other words, if I lose, *insert sleep/jet lag johns here*
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Have fun and good luck.Tomorrow at 7AM, I fly to San Diego. I'll be up at 5AM.
In other words, if I lose, *insert sleep/jet lag johns here*
Except I won't lose
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Sheik, obviously.
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Good luck!
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You got this dude.
Spring-Loaded
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he should make it a gif that mimics holographic cards.
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Based Ant.
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Have fun and good luck! Would love to hear your stories after the event.
Not playable.
She is on the E3 build of the 3DS version of Smash.
Oh.She is on the 3DS version of Smash.
Adding parasol in is probably a good idea and it'd make for a few easy standard attacks.
That was my first idea, but I was hoping for something that worked as a throwback to the games.
Though if he was in Smash he'd get some random moves to fill out his repertoire so that'd work.
I spent five minutes looking for a muscular waddle dee to attach to this post.
It didn't work
Tomorrow at 7AM, I fly to San Diego. I'll be up at 5AM.
In other words, if I lose, *insert sleep/jet lag johns here*
Except I won't lose
Good night everyone, see you on the other side.
good luck and have fun there man!
Starphoenix
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Could even make use of the Megaton Punch mini game he appears in (his first appearance in the series) as a down smash or special .
ErrorMacro
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You can't really use that kind of argument when stuff like the hookshot or the spinner exists.
SoulUnison
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Or she could play a random OOT warp song.
Freezie KO
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I like the Smash thread because sometimes it's casual speculation; sometimes it's about competitive play; and sometimes it's Guns, Germs, and Steel.
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Good luck, Anthony.
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In other words, if I lose, *insert sleep/jet lag johns here*
Except I won't lose
Good night everyone, see you on the other side.
Good luck, Anthony.
My first instinct for Megaton Punch was to be his Final Smash, complete with cutscene of shattering a planet in two.
But both work!
Legendarylemur
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More like you can't argue on the assumption that Zelda timeline can be somehow put on our timeline. There are fictional beings in the game that could have invented bombs in their timeline much before we did, like Gorons.
theprodigy
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Tomorrow at 7AM, I fly to San Diego. I'll be up at 5AM.
In other words, if I lose, *insert sleep/jet lag johns here*
Except I won't lose
Good night everyone, see you on the other side.
Good luck!
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I like the Smash thread because someone replies to all of my posts regardless of what I say. Feels good.
Lord_Byron28
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Im aware that the Zelda series hardly keeps consistency with technological advancements. However thanks for the info. As you said NoA's titling of the burst grenade gives me the impression of something else than what it is. Im aware that the technical know how to make a grenade would be around if bombs were around.
With that said grenades and a magical harp would both be made up out of nowhere for Sheik. In my mind the magical harp would make more sense for Sheik than a grenade since one of the only notable things about Sheik was her harp and the Zelda series is well known for their music and magical musical instruments. That is my opinion and I see im alone in this opinion. I respect others opinions and I see what perspective you and others are coming from.
Perhaps down the line there could be a Zelda fighter or assist trophy that fights using musical instruments to unleash spells. As I said in my previous post though I dont want to continue this discussion since no one is going anywhere with it. Thank you for being reasonable in debating with me instead of mocking me.
Was ROB really that much of a surprise? I know I and tons of other people on the Official Nintendo forums all had ROB on their prediction rosters.
Anyway I dont expect anyone from Smash GAF will have this kind of outburst because we are only expecting a few more characters and we for the most part are being level headed(yes the occasional Sceptile or K Rool debate breaks out but I dont think anyone seriously expects them). However the part of GAF that doesn't pay as close attention will probably cry about the roster.
SenorArdilla
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I spent five minutes looking for a muscular waddle dee to attach to this post.
It didn't work
Odd considering there's an entire episode from the Kirby animated series to it.
I spent five minutes looking for a muscular waddle dee to attach to this post.
It didn't work
The design of Kirby characters is antithetical to the development of muscle mass.
......Kirby is really weird sometimes.
True
I'm glad I didn't see that episode.Odd considering there's an entire episode from the Kirby animated series to it.
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