Interesting video on street harrassment
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ElectricBlanketFire
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Before I click, is this one of those staged reaction videos?
Always-honest
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I never do it because i think it's ridiculous behaviour. But i also know some women love that shit.
NEOPARADIGM
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EdibleKnife
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What exactly is the expected result for a guy that yells out like that? Do they expect a thank you?
John Kowalski
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It's disgusting behavior and all the more power to those women who fight back on what they feel is a power play by men.
But i'm not gaf, so who cares.
They expect superiority to be established.
But i'm not gaf, so who cares.
They expect superiority to be established.
HuskerDutheDu
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As a man I can safely say that this doesn't happen. As a man I know more than women about this.
weemadarthur
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Odd, I've never met one that does.
you can tell mostly by body language i think even if they don't out and out say it. not sure why women that enjoy this kind of stuff should be punished just because some are annoyed by it? it would be the exact same as saying you should take a popular tv show off the air just because a few people are offended -- i.e., censorship.
That is weird, I have NEVER experience anything like it and I never think about it at all, but then again I am not a hot woman. Or a woman at all, for that matter.
Well, anyway, here's a good song about the subject
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIywtO0OY78
Well, anyway, here's a good song about the subject
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIywtO0OY78
weemadarthur
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That's a very poor analogy. Nobody is forced to watch television. And it's not about annoyance, either. It's about deep fear. Fear. From being in random public places. Any chance of you trying to empathise one time in your life?
Neither of you can have watched the whole video, either. Unless you or the guy I replied earlier think women enjoy sexual assault.
Anton Sugar
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Glad DC is prominently featured in this, it's a serious problem there. I have several friends involved in various movements to stop street harassment.
Glancing at people is fine. Staring is creepy.
You're making it sound like for every woman who doesn't like street harassment, there is one who does. That's not an accurate portrayal, at all.
Men don't try because some women like it--it's not the fault of women, at all.
You can "tell" that some like it even though they don't say it? Are you saying they secretly want it?
"Some" are annoyed by being sexually harassed every week, if not daily?
Stopping street harassment is akin to censorship?
Holy fuck, man.
It's awful in DC. Men rarely get harassed to the degree that women do; in many areas of DC, women get harassed on most corners.
Doesn't matter if they're alone or not. I walked with my (ex) gf around everywhere--I'm pretty built, solid 200 lbs--and she was constantly cat-called. They think it's a privilege or a compliment.
Glancing at people is fine. Staring is creepy.
You're making it sound like for every woman who doesn't like street harassment, there is one who does. That's not an accurate portrayal, at all.
Men don't try because some women like it--it's not the fault of women, at all.
You can "tell" that some like it even though they don't say it? Are you saying they secretly want it?
"Some" are annoyed by being sexually harassed every week, if not daily?
Stopping street harassment is akin to censorship?
Holy fuck, man.
It's awful in DC. Men rarely get harassed to the degree that women do; in many areas of DC, women get harassed on most corners.
Doesn't matter if they're alone or not. I walked with my (ex) gf around everywhere--I'm pretty built, solid 200 lbs--and she was constantly cat-called. They think it's a privilege or a compliment.
Always-honest
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Yeah, some of it is harmless i think (meant to be flattering, in all its stupidity). But some of it is agressive and really scary. Entitled egocentric men who really think women are just walking around there for them to fuck.
After the drunk men bèing pushed on the subway, men trying to tickle my ribs, wanting to hug me, Ive stopped taking the bus/subway whenever I can.
As for catcalls I dont even listen or look back, in fact one tried to give me a ride, i accepted, when i got in I told him that if he tried to do anything 'I will kill you anyway that I can'.
Ive done the whole I will haunt you for the rest of youf life if you kill me at certain points in dates.
Can't link since im on a tablet, but reitmans had a commercial where a woman was hearing wolf whistle/catcalls, and it turned out to be actual bird/nature, and she felt empowered. I agree that sometime a lookback makes you think 'damn i look good', but saying hey mami/come over here sexy' is not the same at all
As for catcalls I dont even listen or look back, in fact one tried to give me a ride, i accepted, when i got in I told him that if he tried to do anything 'I will kill you anyway that I can'.
Ive done the whole I will haunt you for the rest of youf life if you kill me at certain points in dates.
Can't link since im on a tablet, but reitmans had a commercial where a woman was hearing wolf whistle/catcalls, and it turned out to be actual bird/nature, and she felt empowered. I agree that sometime a lookback makes you think 'damn i look good', but saying hey mami/come over here sexy' is not the same at all
Deified Data
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Far be it from me to tell you how to live your life, but I'd be terrified to hear any woman in my life say she accepted a ride from a random guy on the street. Unless I'm reading this wrong.
I followed my wife and her friend from 10 feet behind for about 5 blocks in midtown at their request.
it is amazing how gross it is and pervasive.
One dude actually tried to whisper in my wifes ear before flying ginger failed roundhouse kick leading to prat fall awkwardly scared him off.
it is amazing how gross it is and pervasive.
One dude actually tried to whisper in my wifes ear before flying ginger failed roundhouse kick leading to prat fall awkwardly scared him off.
It's really a reminder of how classless you can look gawking or rubber necking women.
Sometimes it's easy to avoid.. other times it's like I'm in a mood where I have real trouble not trying to look back at any decent looking woman that passes by me.
The catcalls and then escalating to outright gross harassment is just way beyond me.. I've never done anything remotely similar outside of a club where you'd expect someone to potentially approach you with a compliment.
Sometimes it's easy to avoid.. other times it's like I'm in a mood where I have real trouble not trying to look back at any decent looking woman that passes by me.
The catcalls and then escalating to outright gross harassment is just way beyond me.. I've never done anything remotely similar outside of a club where you'd expect someone to potentially approach you with a compliment.
creationtheory
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It happens to my wife all the time but she laughs about it.
NEOPARADIGM
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Creepy is creepy and pushy is pushy. Catcalling as a rule should be good-natured and compliment-motivated. Not particularly classy and I've never done it myself, but I mean if we're using the word harassment we aren't really talking about catcalling anymore.
And I'm not hot enough to know, but don't smokin' hot guys get catcalled themselves at a pretty good clip? It's fairly acceptable behavior overall so long as, again, you're not crossing the "harassment" line or saying something totally inappropriate.
I would love it if a woman purred at me as I walked by.
And I'm not hot enough to know, but don't smokin' hot guys get catcalled themselves at a pretty good clip? It's fairly acceptable behavior overall so long as, again, you're not crossing the "harassment" line or saying something totally inappropriate.
I would love it if a woman purred at me as I walked by.
Wouldn't be surprised if the number was actually much higher -- at its heart maybe some don't like the way it's delivered but in almost every case it's a good-natured compliment, just delivered in a very "male" way. If you attacked the way females traditionally communicate similarly, you'd be lambasted by the PC Police. Now that reverse racism is pretty accepted as a seriously problem in our society, I wonder if 'reverse sexism' needs to be taught as well....
creationtheory
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I want to make a video about being harassed on the street by gutter punks and crazy people. I'll put some really sad music over it.
NEOPARADIGM
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oh boy
Christ.
No. Most women do not like street harassment. There might be some out there that do but they're the exception, not the rule.
Stop trying to excuse shit behavior.
Actually your reverse racism comment is proof you don't know shit.
Anton Sugar
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Who determines the line between "harassment" and "good-natured cat-calling"?
Tell me: what is "reverse racism"?
Deified Data
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I don't think any thinking person considers "reverse racism" a serious problem in our society. There's just "racism" and there's "sexism", they go both ways.
To be fair, there's lots of guys telling you not to like it, too.
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Spheyr
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There's no such thing as reverse racism. It's just racism no matter who's involved.
Mt Heart Attack
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I have no idea why the hell men do crap like that. I guess it's some sort of peer pressure thing, I can't imagine a guy behaving like that unless he's in the company of his friends.
As a guy, that only happened to me once in my life, as I recall, a girl telling me "you're hot" out of the blue, while walking on the street, during the day. I gotta say that felt pretty awesome.
As a guy, that only happened to me once in my life, as I recall, a girl telling me "you're hot" out of the blue, while walking on the street, during the day. I gotta say that felt pretty awesome.
TheLostBigBoss
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I think what we're seeing is the physical version of:
I'm not so sure if it's driven by the notion of possession, but rather these guys think "Oh, hey, she's super hot and HERE'S MY CHANCE!"
Not sure if that's better or worse.
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I never understood catcalling. I mean shit, I feel guilty by just looking at girls randomly on the street.
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rocketknight
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Last week on the train in Chicago, after everyone else had gotten off at the second to last stop, I looked around to make sure I was alone. I was not. There was disgusting man in the back corner staring at me and masturbating. It wasn't a compliment, no matter how much anyone here may want to delude themselves. This stuff is demeaning and can be absolutely terrifying.
I served my mission in Chile. Down there the girls call out to the gringos nonstop. On a slow day, I probably got called out to by girls 20 times, especially by the older teens who were just relentless.
Now I think back on that. It made me uncomfortable, and I'm a guy. I'm a guy who doesn't generally have reason to feel threatened by any of those girls calling out. But in a role reversal, a woman sort of has to feel some level of threat because of what so many men out there are capable of doing.
I really don't think very much of a guy calling out to a woman on the street like this. It's gross and it's uncivilized behavior.
Now I think back on that. It made me uncomfortable, and I'm a guy. I'm a guy who doesn't generally have reason to feel threatened by any of those girls calling out. But in a role reversal, a woman sort of has to feel some level of threat because of what so many men out there are capable of doing.
I really don't think very much of a guy calling out to a woman on the street like this. It's gross and it's uncivilized behavior.
Just in case you're not trolling, I'm going to respond.
1) There's a tremendous difference between dirty talk directed at someone prepared to receive it, and randomly throwing shit out at someone in public that sounds like a prelude to sexual assault. It has a lot to do with feeling threatened. I think you might be crossing the two concepts without thinking of where the important distinction is.
2) I have no idea what you might consider a "good-natured compliment", but you're really rosing up the concept of street harassment by calling it that. There's such a thing as backhanded compliments- street harassment is even worse than that.
3) You completely lost me at "PC Police", "reverse-racism", and "reverse-sexism". You must be trolling.
Extra Sauce
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Nope.
If anything it's more like "for every woman that enjoys it, there are dozens of women who are rightfully creeped out by it".
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