Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 12: Gwah, hah. Welcome to the Bowser's game.
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KelpPlankton
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I would add Wolf to that list if we're playing it safe (though I would like to see everyone stay). Maybe ROB but he's so unique it would be unfortunate.
I'm still hoping that someone new inherits Snake's moveset. I just can't think of a good candidate.
I just kind of count Ivysaur and Squirtle as being one character in Pokemon Trainer, who is definitely cut.
My guess is, if you were in the original game, you're coming back for sure. (Jiggs & Ness). If you've been in two games at this point, you're probably coming back too. (Falco, Ice Climbers, Ganondorf, Game & Watch) If you were created by Sakurai, you're also safe. (Metaknight).
As for the Brawl crew, there's no way he wouldn't bring back Wario. ROB will likely make the cut. I can't see why he would cut Lucas, and the only reason we have to believe that is the Gematsu leak. I feel like "clones" like Wolf and Lucas stand a good chance. Snake and PKMN Trainer seem like the only sure fire cuts to me.
PadWarrior
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Bless you Tripon for finding these lol
astrogamer
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My analysis of the 3DS e3 trailer
Fighter Scales: seems to work very similar to the difficulty system in KI:U. 2.0 is the default. You can pay 300 coins for 0 difficulty. for increasing difficulty, may be 100 coins = 1.0 increase
Classic Mode: So it's paths that you seem to choose your opponent before getting to the fork. Each path has rewards of varying worths (ie coins, a Gogoat trophy, etc.). The silver coin is likely worth a different value than the gold. Star Fox path had a large circle likely indicating a special event( like Target Blast and the like). Before facing foes, we now see the stage as well as the character were fighting so that's nice. There is a rewards spinner on the bottom screen, likely to have better rewards on higher difficulties. I'm not sure what each icon means and it was spinning too fast for me to catch what most looked like but there were red and yellow in addition the green thing that was times 2. Thinking this green icon might indicate trophies as a reward.
Next is the victory screen. We know how this works.
Home run contest: As far as I can see, still works the same as Brawl. The Sandbag was hit at 132% and went over 1700 ft.
Online smash: Not really much new, though I think these icons are different from the ones shown for Wii U. After selecting For Fun/Glory, you choose between regular and team. Don't think anyone really notices or cares but having two players leaves a lot of black space that's kind of ugly. Also, noticed that the 3DS used in the trailer changed from Ferui8 to Quarl 10z. Also demonstration of that targeting touch screen function
Outlines: Pretty self explanatory and simple choose between thick, thin or none.
Smash Run: We also know this now. Yoshi back airing into a monoeye, hammer bro and I think a LoZ enemy. There was also this flying flower enemy. Next Link spin attacking Kihunters and a Kid Icarus enemy. The Smash Run ending battles: Flower Smash, Race. The powers is pretty detailed it seems. Y allows you to favorite certain powers, putting a star in the first column next to the power's icon. X is random, likely giving you a random set of powers. The power's icons' background each indicate its type. Red is a direct attack, gray are items, Orange is a buff and I'm not sure about Yellow but guessing Indirect Attack. Each power has a level, though I'm certain what it means. I'm guessing it's either it levels as you use them or it indicates the powers and number of times it can be used. Next column is seeing if its equipped. The final column is Weight as we can tell by the list being on Weight and it being the same for all those powers. Seeing how the equip icon highlights this column, it means that there is a maximum weight to determine how many powers you can use. The lower screen shows that the maximum is 24. I'm not sure what this "temporary"section is though. I believe we'll be able to sort the powers, alphabetical, by power type, weight, level, eqquipped and favorite at the very least. The bottom part of the top screen has a short blurb about the power, its type and uses. Uses are either how many times you used the power or how many are left. Top of the bottom screen is a bar indicating how much weight is used and how much weight will the power highlighted will add. Also noticed that this is another 3DS: Wirry_hud.
Rules: Mostly the same as Brawl, new option with turning customized movesets off and on. Also, stage switch is a unlockable again.
Multi Man Melee: Fighting Miis on Battlefield.
Pictures: Seems like you can arrange pictures into albums
Music and Voice test are returning
Target Blast: We know what it is but, with the score indicator, we can definitely say that you can use more that one bomb to blow up the targets. Also, the stage for this is unique rather than looking similar to the home run contest, looking more like a Colosseum than a stadium.
Next screen is likely showing if you customized a character's moveset
Team Pie Graph. Not sure what this is, maybe a tournament system or betting
Tips: short details explaining items, attacks, certain mechanics(ie stepping stone jump)
Crate breaking minigame, seems to have trophies, coins as rewards. Combo is likely held by the Fever bar as crates fall off the side but the score isn't reset. Likely lasts 3 minutes
Fighting Records. Character usage and stuff
Betting: spectating on an online match, looks like you have to watch the whole match to win the gold but leaving will return the gold you bet. Winning streaks seem to increase your bet
Trophy Diorama- The floor pattern is the smash symbol with the grass being the cross. Likely, all the trophies fill up the entire space
Icon minigame. Seems like a multiplayer minigame where to control via screen by launching your fighter into your opponents to knock them off. Defeating opponents earn you coins
Master hand, Kirby just beat him
Fighter Scales: seems to work very similar to the difficulty system in KI:U. 2.0 is the default. You can pay 300 coins for 0 difficulty. for increasing difficulty, may be 100 coins = 1.0 increase
Classic Mode: So it's paths that you seem to choose your opponent before getting to the fork. Each path has rewards of varying worths (ie coins, a Gogoat trophy, etc.). The silver coin is likely worth a different value than the gold. Star Fox path had a large circle likely indicating a special event( like Target Blast and the like). Before facing foes, we now see the stage as well as the character were fighting so that's nice. There is a rewards spinner on the bottom screen, likely to have better rewards on higher difficulties. I'm not sure what each icon means and it was spinning too fast for me to catch what most looked like but there were red and yellow in addition the green thing that was times 2. Thinking this green icon might indicate trophies as a reward.
Next is the victory screen. We know how this works.
Home run contest: As far as I can see, still works the same as Brawl. The Sandbag was hit at 132% and went over 1700 ft.
Online smash: Not really much new, though I think these icons are different from the ones shown for Wii U. After selecting For Fun/Glory, you choose between regular and team. Don't think anyone really notices or cares but having two players leaves a lot of black space that's kind of ugly. Also, noticed that the 3DS used in the trailer changed from Ferui8 to Quarl 10z. Also demonstration of that targeting touch screen function
Outlines: Pretty self explanatory and simple choose between thick, thin or none.
Smash Run: We also know this now. Yoshi back airing into a monoeye, hammer bro and I think a LoZ enemy. There was also this flying flower enemy. Next Link spin attacking Kihunters and a Kid Icarus enemy. The Smash Run ending battles: Flower Smash, Race. The powers is pretty detailed it seems. Y allows you to favorite certain powers, putting a star in the first column next to the power's icon. X is random, likely giving you a random set of powers. The power's icons' background each indicate its type. Red is a direct attack, gray are items, Orange is a buff and I'm not sure about Yellow but guessing Indirect Attack. Each power has a level, though I'm certain what it means. I'm guessing it's either it levels as you use them or it indicates the powers and number of times it can be used. Next column is seeing if its equipped. The final column is Weight as we can tell by the list being on Weight and it being the same for all those powers. Seeing how the equip icon highlights this column, it means that there is a maximum weight to determine how many powers you can use. The lower screen shows that the maximum is 24. I'm not sure what this "temporary"section is though. I believe we'll be able to sort the powers, alphabetical, by power type, weight, level, eqquipped and favorite at the very least. The bottom part of the top screen has a short blurb about the power, its type and uses. Uses are either how many times you used the power or how many are left. Top of the bottom screen is a bar indicating how much weight is used and how much weight will the power highlighted will add. Also noticed that this is another 3DS: Wirry_hud.
Rules: Mostly the same as Brawl, new option with turning customized movesets off and on. Also, stage switch is a unlockable again.
Multi Man Melee: Fighting Miis on Battlefield.
Pictures: Seems like you can arrange pictures into albums
Music and Voice test are returning
Target Blast: We know what it is but, with the score indicator, we can definitely say that you can use more that one bomb to blow up the targets. Also, the stage for this is unique rather than looking similar to the home run contest, looking more like a Colosseum than a stadium.
Next screen is likely showing if you customized a character's moveset
Team Pie Graph. Not sure what this is, maybe a tournament system or betting
Tips: short details explaining items, attacks, certain mechanics(ie stepping stone jump)
Crate breaking minigame, seems to have trophies, coins as rewards. Combo is likely held by the Fever bar as crates fall off the side but the score isn't reset. Likely lasts 3 minutes
Fighting Records. Character usage and stuff
Betting: spectating on an online match, looks like you have to watch the whole match to win the gold but leaving will return the gold you bet. Winning streaks seem to increase your bet
Trophy Diorama- The floor pattern is the smash symbol with the grass being the cross. Likely, all the trophies fill up the entire space
Icon minigame. Seems like a multiplayer minigame where to control via screen by launching your fighter into your opponents to knock them off. Defeating opponents earn you coins
Master hand, Kirby just beat him
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Sakurai counted Pokemon Trainer as three separate characters but I understand your point tho.
Jigglypuff barely made the cut since she is one of four last characters being added to the game. Problem is that no one is safe because there is a priority list, so they are trying to cramming every characters into the game as they can before the production for Smash 3DS ended. Once they arrived at the point of deadline, then that's when they started to cut the characters.
Honestly, I really hope that cut characters would become DLC characters in the future, but I don't think we will get DLC characters for Smash 4. I know Gematsu did mentioned that however I felt that leakers are trying to add few more leaks since he ran out of things to leak. Yeah, I truly believe that Leak #3 is more shaky than first two leaks because the leaks were like probable cause, 50/50.
Beelzebufo
Banned
Haha, alien 3DS and Drake and Josh are the best.
Aβydoς;124490381 said:
+ A Bowser won the SDCC 3DS tournament, was used by a lot of people, and was overall buffed and fairly powerful.
This also prompted Anth0ny, who participated in the tournament, to write a lengthy descritiption of Bowser's overall viability. SmashGAF then came to the realization that this is Bowser's world now, and we're all just living in it. All hail our new King. #dropkicks4lyfe
Vampirolol
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The "#Teamgrass" one is brilliant!
astrogamer
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Mario Party 4 and Bowser's dominance at comic conAβydoς;124490381 said:
Pop-O-Matic
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Miiverse sure knows what's up.
I don't think they're mutually exclusive. You can have more female characters and still get your Ridley and K. Rool
though you probably won't
Comes off as awfully bitter, to me.
I do think most of those complaints wouldn't exist if all the 'human female' newcomers were male. Kind of like the ridiculous comments surrounding the perceived gender imbalance of Hyrule Warriors' roster.
Though in any case, I also support non-human female characters.
If only it were possible...
Scooter155
Member
You guys keep mentioning some kind of gameboy POTD but I just scrolled through the entire thread and I still don't see today's pic anywhere... could someone re-post please? Thanks!
theprodigy
Member
Nintendo needs to buy Capcom STAT
Beelzebufo
Banned
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I always have POTD in my OP, if you are looking for one.
Yeah, I honestly get the same impression.
Having a character like that would be great, but you'll have to stick to MvC3 most likely. Having more non-humanoid characters would be neat. Personally I wanted to be able to play as a Sylveon, but we're probably not getting anymore X/Y Pokemon playable.
Neoriceisgood
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Considering Brawl's idea of adding more girls was "zero suit samus", I'm very happy to see
lots of new girls in smash 4.
I've seen people praise ssb4 for it anyway, not complain so I don't really follow.
Scooter155
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Thanks Heath, but for whatever reason it's not showing up for me. My work has the weirdest/strictest filtering standards, I'm sure the problem is on my end. No biggie though.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Scooter155
Member
I hope that it would work for you now.
Waaaaa? Is that really the pic of the day? So I get that it's a callback to one of Sakurai's early games, but what does it have to do with smash? Was there no description? How is this not the only thing we're talking about!?
It's a stage like Game and Watch's in Melee.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Yep, GameBoy is a new stage for 3DS, along with Kirby and Dedede's GameBoy Alt color returning as well.
Well, Sakurai didn't provide a good description this time so we don't really know everything.
Hyperactivity
Banned
HNNNGGG
Up there with Isaac and Quote, put Ammy farther to the right for a descending order of likeliness
Lord_Byron28
Member
All he said was ba ding when 3D is on it looks like you are playing a game boy. Were speculating that maybe the stage transforms to popular Gameboy games like Super Mario Land, Tetris, Kirby's Dream Land, etc.
theprodigy
Member
would avatar quote here if you didn't have a whole bunch of other crap on your avatar
Hyperactivity
Banned
So all that other crap finally paid off
The Great Gonzales
Member
Incredible. Absolutely incredible.
It never ceases to amaze me that the same group of people who make all those ridiculous comments are the ones making all this amazing art.
Geminosity
Member
hehehe
I find this exceptionally true
Left: "Oh thank god, I finally got some icecream. I don't even really like mint but I'm just happy to get anything at all at this rate"
Right: "Wtf?!?!? That's another mint scoop! I wanted chocolate!!! Where's MY diversity? WAHHHHH"
I find this to be exceptionally true :3
I'm expecting more of a Game & Watch original melody with GameBoy inspired sounds and maybe a medley, though I hope if we do get one it flows better than the NES medley from Brawl.
Or it's a reference to one of Nintendo's systems. Honestly the only confusion about today's PotD is the confusion over this stage.
Are those actual alts, or does the stage just shade everyone that way?
Left: "Oh thank god, I finally got some icecream. I don't even really like mint but I'm just happy to get anything at all at this rate"
Right: "Wtf?!?!? That's another mint scoop! I wanted chocolate!!! Where's MY diversity? WAHHHHH"
I find this to be exceptionally true :3
Or in other words...
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I would like to believe so. Look at last color in both pictures that I provided. Also you should take a good look at Dedede's hammer colors as well.
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The Great Gonzales
Member
No, it's not the stage, they're just alt colors. Look at DeDeDe's hammer - it's not monochrome.
Neoriceisgood
Member
Thank god Miis made it in.
Pretty much the only way to get non-white representation in smash.
plz no jokes about non-human chars with green/purple/whatever skin, you get my point.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
What about Ganondorf?
Ah, you're right! That's neat that they gave them those colors.
Neoriceisgood
Member
Ganondorf's like green, I have no idea how to qualify him.