I was talking about people comparing Rise to Bloodborne. I understand the point about Sunset Overdrive.
Rise of the Tomb Raider timed Xbox exclusive for Holiday 2015 (No PS/PC, SE publish)
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I was talking about people comparing Rise to Bloodborne. I understand the point about Sunset Overdrive.
Caayn
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I understand you, I'm in a similar situation with Halo 4. I really hate that game, and only want to see anything related to Halo 4 bomb as hard as humanly possible. I let out my thoughts about it plenty of times. However you should realize that at one point that becomes nothing more than thread shitting.
Just like every other Sony published games. So what?
From Software could've picked a different publisher and developed Bloorborne with their aid. It's not like Sony developed the IP, they practically bought it.
QuantumZebra
Member
Hold on let me break down the revenue distribution of a $60 game.
Or fucking not.
If you don't think TR on PS4/PC/maybe PS3 would net that much or more.... lol
Led_Zeppelin
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I agree, but there is a difference between founding an exclusive (meaning backing up financially the development of a game from the ground) and buying a time-exclusivity. MS did it right with Scalebound, founding the game for Platinum, buying a time exclusivity isn't the same.
AyaisMUsikWhore
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I was told I was moving goalpost by asking this very same question. Was it an exclusive at first or did it debut as a multiplatform?
MotionBlue
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I wonder why SE decided on this. Where did the Tomb Raider reboot sell better?
I was looking forward to this, I won't buy a new console for it. I doubt many others will. When it sells poorly I hope it doesn't affect future releases in the reboot series.
I was looking forward to this, I won't buy a new console for it. I doubt many others will. When it sells poorly I hope it doesn't affect future releases in the reboot series.
I personally don't have issues with MS for doing this. They're doing what they need to do to pad out their exclusives for 2015. I do have issues with Square Enix and Crystal Dynamics though. Especially with that Crystal Dynamics "Fuck You" letter to PC and PS owners. "Hey, you're not getting our big budget sequel, but you can still buy the original and a DL only spin off title to help fund development on the big budget sequel that you won't be getting!"
The Antitype
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Praise the mods for showing the truth and not blinding us with lies.
Robdraggoo
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when does that timed exclusive on Dead Rising expire? feel like I have been waiting 8 years for that to come to PS3.
There have been a handful of times exclusives that came to 360 last gen (never owned a 360) that would eventually drop on PS3 ( mass effect 2, minecraft, ect. ). but when PS exclusives eventually launching on other platforms I was happy they were able to play these good games. let the ONE have it for a bit. I will have other great games in the meantime to play. it will probably be disocunted by then anyway, just like ME2
Tomb Raider has sold 3.4 million copies, failed to hit expectations
What in fuck's name are they thinking with this move ?
What in fuck's name are they thinking with this move ?
Future PhaZe
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How many of those games do they own? KI, and Crackdown? I just think they could be more serious about making great games themselves. The quality and quantity is with Sony in my opinion. It doesn't need to be that way with their resources.
StealthGoblin
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What if Microsoft payed for a significant amount of the development budget?
They're not going to make it known it's timed only for a full game until suddenly one day "GUYS RISE OF THE TOMB RAIDER: DEFINITIVE EDITION COMING TO PS4/XB1/PC!!!"
Hell, I guess if they do THAT they can reasonably claim Rise of the Tomb Raider was forever a full on Xbox One exclusive. Just like Minecraft: Xbox One Edition is an Xbox One exclusive.
xenogenesis
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It seems to me that they're snagging up this game to have something comparable to go up against Uncharted 4 (which comes out maybe Holiday 2015 as well)?
They're thinking "gee, this huge bag of money Microsoft just gave us is pretty neat".
Tomb Raider wound selling quite a bit more than 3.6M and was recently called a success by Square-Enix, so that's semi-outdated info.
AyaisMUsikWhore
Member
That's more than the average Sony exclusive. I swear, someone at Square is stealing money from them, because if that is a failure, I don't know what is anymore.
plasmawave
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I don're remember any backlash for those games? Certainly not to this scale.
Maybe Titanfall for certain extent but definitely not for SO.
Buying a new IP is different from a fucking sequel.
The only thing that has been confirmed is that RoTR is coming exclusively to Xbone Holiday 2015. So it could mean that RoTR can become multiplatform in 2016 or later (best case scenario though)...
laugh my butt off if its some sort of "2 week exclusivity" but the contract forbids Square from saying anything about that fact.
Or marketing/advertising
Katze mit Hut
Member
if permanent: disgusting, the franchise will die outside of the US. Like 100k Units saled in EU in its lifetime? What are SE thinking?
if timed (e.g. 6 months): perfect to fill the summer-hole
if timed (e.g. 6 months): perfect to fill the summer-hole
Cherry picking is such a lovely thing isn't it?
The Antitype
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Oh, people were PISSED about Titan Fall.
Gamerblood
Banned
This is simple for me even if the Tomb raider comes to ps4. These devs will never see a dime of my money. I will most likely never buy a game from them again.
Finale Fireworker
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Everybody dumping on Tomb Raider 2013 needs to realize it's a widely beloved game with a very passionate fan base. Even if the 3.2 million people who rushed out and bought it in one month had zero overlap with the original fan base it's not fair to all of us who LOVED TR2013.
Because this would not be causing such a huge problem and be a PR catastrophe for the companies involved if there was not a huge, passionate, and loyal fan base who is very eager to see this new TR series grow and prosper. That's cool if people only like the classic TR games, but they exist already and you'll always have them. It's not just about you.
How so?
Night Angel
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Reasonable people don't hate MS for SO, as the game wouldn't be made without them (Insomniac wanted to keep the IP while being funded). As for TF, people find it very hard to believe that EA couldn't find the funds to pay for a game from the CoD developers. That, combined with the game's transition from timed exclusive to fill exclusive so late in its development (which was also a complete surprise for the developers), leads people to believe the game was money hatted rather than co-developed.
Amentallica
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While this deal already compensates Square directly from Microsoft because it is a paid timed-exclusive, it's quite comical to imagine what Square is going to say when it sells poorly on just one console, given that they thought 7mil sales of Tomb Raider was poor. Fucking LOL.
Atomicfireman
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And some people just want to watch the world burn. Frankly I think your attitude is terrible. You want other people-fans of TR2013-to be inconvinenced because you didn't like the game. Assholery at its finest.
Jmanunknown
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For now they do but, the game is over a year away they have to maintain the level of publicity or it means nothing at all because people will get over it not launching on the PS4 and PC in 2015. Their are other games out there it just means people will spend their money on another game or wait until it launches on the system they want to play on.
Delta Assault
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I really don't know what Microsoft is thinking with paying for this timed exclusive (And we know it's timed, because if they'd paid out the megabucks for the forever exclusive, they'd be yelling it from the hilltops). Do they really think people are going to run out and buy an Xbone just to play TR2 4-6 months before it hits PC/PS4? This might apply to a very small, niche minority, but... most people are content to wait it out.
AyaisMUsikWhore
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I thought the hate for SO was mostly due to Insomniac and people making fun of MS for moneyhatting.
The hate for Titanfall wasn't exactly because of Microsoft but because it was being pushed down our throats that it was the best game evar and you are totally missing out and this is the game of the generation, hyperbole after hyperbole after hyperbole, with a slight pinch of the on going MS moneyhat joke.
DangerMouse
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Now that you mention it, somehow from S-E and MS I wouldn't be surprised if that ends up the most literal coming exclusively holiday 2015 ever, where it literally just ends up meaning it's only exclusive during holiday 2015...
Meanwhile Sony was like, "yeah we'll tell you, Hellblade is only timed".
He went too far but more importantly the re-release of the remake sold like what 75% PS4? LOL S-E.
Meanwhile Sony was like, "yeah we'll tell you, Hellblade is only timed".
He went too far but more importantly the re-release of the remake sold like what 75% PS4? LOL S-E.
Hellblade was specifically stated in today's conference as a timed exclusive (as in not being kept off Xbox forever.)
Bloodborne is owned by Sony, and is being publish by SONY. If Bloodborne was actually Dark Souls 3, and not being published by Sony you might have a point.
Sunset Overdrive is being published by MS, hence funded by MS, no one feels like that game was taken away.
Titanfall was moneyhatted away from timed to full exclusivity, but signs point to MS funding the game so again not the same thing.
I'll ask again, show me a 3rd party series that has a history of releasing on both platforms (Sony/MS) that Sony has paid to keep away from Xbox only fans?
markedbravado
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MS did the same shit with GTA IV DLC. They are slimy mann. Ice cold.
I would be upset, but I gives no shit for the new Tomb Raider franchise. I am content with the Osiris game releasing this year.
I would be upset, but I gives no shit for the new Tomb Raider franchise. I am content with the Osiris game releasing this year.
Douche McBaggins The 3rd
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Wasn't Tomb Raider started as a Saturn game by Core, but always intended to be on Playstation and PC?
And they'll probably charge a full $60 too with some stupid MP DLC added on. I'll just wait for it to bomb and pick it up at a heavy discount from Greenmangaming a couple weeks later.
Indeed, Crystal Dynamics already achieved 1080p/30fps with Tomb Raider DE on Xbox One, now developing it exclusively on One i'm sure they'll achieve 1080p and gorgeous graphics in Rise Of The Tomb Raider
That deal alone doesn't make sense, anything is possible
Katze mit Hut
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Yep, thats what im thinking too. They are forbidden to disclose the timed exclusivity, otherwise MS would just burn money. MS hopes to lure some customers to their BOX next holiday, because they can again not deliver games on their own. Can´t see the xbox ever picking up saleswise but hey. Desperate times and stuff.
I asked Square Enix for more clarification and they said "What weve announced today is that Rise of the Tomb Raider, coming Holiday 2015, is exclusively on Xbox."
That makes it seem like it's NOT a timed exclusive. I asked them to clear this up and haven't heard back yet. Sure wish these companies would treat their fans with respect and talk like human beings instead of machines.
That makes it seem like it's NOT a timed exclusive. I asked them to clear this up and haven't heard back yet. Sure wish these companies would treat their fans with respect and talk like human beings instead of machines.
NumberThree
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I guess I am. I'm glad the only console I own is a Wii U, where all the exclusives are clearly identified by being Nintendo published.
Xenon
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Also Diablo III for the XBO. Sony paid them, I assume, to not mention the game even though it was being released.
multiplatform. it was even on PC.