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He meant morally difficult, given that Aang didn't like hurting people and what he was doing was at least as serious as chopping off Ozai's hands. Although it's also not like Aang really acts like he's worried about not being able to pull it off, and the audience isn't worried at all even when the red light is spreading over Aang.
Aang didnt like hurting people but he did when it was to protect others. He wasnt chopping off hands. People without bending can still be spiritually inclined. You dont need to be a bender to be spiritual. Even if he was chopping off "hands", they were ones that he can restore again. "Hands" that have only harmed people. I mean, I get that you want to paint this as a monstrous action or morally questionable or a fate worse than death based off how Korra S1 treated taking away bending but I'm just not seeing it honestly. Energy bending isn't the same process as what Amon was doing. Amon was torturing people by manipulating their innards. The majority of the populace live entirely without bending, I just cannot see it as equivalent as losing your limbs. I mean you can use Toph or hell use Ming Hua as reasons why it would be equivalent but they are very much exceptions.

I don't know if you can really say he wasnt worried like that. I mean with hindsight, after refusing to kill Ozai with the redirected lightning, he had to have been thinking about this the whole time. Of course the audience isn't worried, good eventually triumphs over evil in childrens show, but the character's are never really privy to this unless they're like 4th wall breaking characters.
 
I'm all caught up. Season 3 destroys the rest of the show so far. To my understanding the rest is coming tomorrow? So PSYCHED.

Korra better kick all their asses. And the Red Lotus' theme music is menacing as hell.
 
I'm all caught up. Season 3 destroys the rest of the show so far. To my understanding the rest is coming tomorrow? So PSYCHED.

Korra better kick all their asses
. And the Red Lotus' theme music is menacing as hell.

And here lies the problem with the show. This series went from

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in ATLA to the new gang being all but useless. I know I'm a broken record, but Tenzin showed the most promise in the latest episode in someone who could potentially kick Korra's ass if he felt like it, and now he's either dead or completely out, and now mama korra has to come and save everybody.
 
And here lies the problem with the show. This series went from

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in ATLA to the new gang being all but useless. I know I'm a broken record, but Tenzin showed the most promise in the latest episode in someone who could potentially kick Korra's ass if he felt like it, and now he's either dead or completely out, and now mama korra has to come and save everybody.

Toph is amazing. Simply. Amazing.
 
Book 2's ending is the reason why I still believe Book 3 can completely shit the bed in the remaining episodes and bring the level down to the other Korra seasons.

Thats not fair. Book 2 was a big steaming pile of shit through and through. The ending was no better than the beginning.

If anything Book 1 is a reason to be fearful, a great book, a bad ending.

Korra just can't be a self contained story.
 
Man I really do hope the writers don't kill Tenzin because they want to give Jinora some character development. That'd be the cheapest excuse to kill a beloved cast member and largely your fault since you were the ones who decided to push her to the side so her knight in shining armor could save her over and over again.
 
And here lies the problem with the show. This series went from

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in ATLA to the new gang being all but useless. I know I'm a broken record, but Tenzin showed the most promise in the latest episode in someone who could potentially kick Korra's ass if he felt like it, and now he's either dead or completely out, and now mama korra has to come and save everybody.

Korra can be good, Mako and Bolin are useless though.
 
Man I really do hope the writers don't kill Tenzin because they want to give Jinora some character development. That'd be the cheapest excuse to kill a beloved cast member and largely your fault since you were the ones who decided to push her to the side so her knight in shining armor could save her over and over again.

Beloved?
 
And here lies the problem with the show. This series went from

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in ATLA to the new gang being all but useless. I know I'm a broken record, but Tenzin showed the most promise in the latest episode in someone who could potentially kick Korra's ass if he felt like it, and now he's either dead or completely out, and now mama korra has to come and save everybody.

I'm gonna be bummed if Tenzin bites the dust, he's one of my favorites next to Lin. By the way, the Lin ep was awesome.

Team Avatar isn't up to the previous cast, I agree. Especially Asami, she should've been something like Sokka, where her mind makes up for her lack of bending, but she barely plays a role unless she gets cool tech. Waste of potential, I think.

Like I said before, the older cast is much more interesting, especially because of their relationship with the A:TLA cast. It was cool to see Zuko and Toph again, and I hope she makes a come back since she isn't dead.

People don't love Tenzin? ;_;
 
The ending of ATLA is kind of a mess anyway, even if you want to say that lion turtles out of nowhere don't count as an ass-pull because the idea got fleshed out five years later.

I mean, season 3 of ATLA is all about shades of gray. A whole bunch of episodes are about the way war compromises people who started out as unambiguously good ("The Puppetmaster" and "The Southern Raiders" are particularly notable). Obviously it also spends a lot of time trying to show that there are real humans in the Fire Nation besides just Zuko and Iroh, and that even Sozin didn't start out so bad. From the very start of the season, this is all clearly leading up to Aang having to choose between his duty as Avatar and what he feels is right.

The lion turtle is intended to be a way for the show to totally punt on this. Aang has a dilemma. It's the central dilemma of the season and perhaps of the series. And then the lion turtle short-circuits it by offering him what's presented as an as-good-as-killing solution to the Ozai problem with none of the guilt, without any of the characters even having to do any work to get there.

Worse, Aang should feel guilty - what he did was monstrous, by his own lights. Killing Ozai might have been more merciful. It's obvious even in ATLA that, for many benders, bending is an important part of who they are. Any of the characters we get to know would be devastated if they got spirit-bent. Toph is obviously a bit of a special case, but her losing her bending would be clearly worse than anyone else losing their eyes. The Legend of Korra makes this dynamic pretty clear - in season 1, people who lose their bending are basically dead men walking. Several people seem like suicide risks. So the lion turtle fails to actually punt on Aang's dilemma - it's worse than that, because Aang ends up choosing the Kyoshi approach without intending to choose.

Finally, season 3 of ATLA makes clear on a few occasions that imprisoning powerful benders is thought to be perfectly feasible. Nobody is particularly concerned about the prospect of keeping Hama or Iroh in prison, although obviously they both escape once. There's a two-parter which is all about a major Fire Nation prison. In the finale, Katara captures Azula (without the benefit of the Avatar State, even) and she's presumably locked up somewhere rather than executed or spirit-bent. Meanwhile, Aang successfully renders Ozai harmless, and only then does he spiritually torture his enemy.

Also the kiss is way creepy.

Ooh, a good post challenging TLA, always love these.

Right, so as far as the moral theme goes, war is something that compromises people who are good....but only if it lets them. The choice to be good is always within a person's reach, even among the most difficult situations. The Puppetmaster is an episode where Katara fails to make that choice(Both katara and hama view the end as katara's defeat and hama's victory, despite hama being the one who is being dragged away), but in the Southern Raiders, she doesn't kill the man she wants to. And another example would be The Painted Lady, where the Gaang helps this village being abused by the fire nation. There is really no advantage they gain to helping them, and they should really just go on their way to do 'more important' things, but Katara specifically makes a stand that they are going to stay and help people, fuck pragmatism.

This is the moral that Aang went through with Ozai. The entire world was telling him to do something he believed to be fundamentally wrong. Something he considered would damage him and the way he lead his life. Iroh made a point that he could, potentially, be the one to kill Ozai, but the world would just see that as another case of power trying to be seized. Basing his plan for world peace on a murder is something the world also might see in a similar light. It's not easy to stand up for something when the whole world says to do something wrong. That's difficult. And the way that energybending works, as out of nowhere as it may have come from, supports this. You cannot bend another's spirit unless your own is unbreakable. If Aang was not as resolute at he was in his belief that killing is wrong, energy bending would not have happened. That is a very good moral for kids to learn: Even in the darkest moments, do whats right.

As for if spirit bending is worse than murder, I find it preposterous. The nonbenders of this show are immensely capable people. Bending can be a part of who they are to a great degree, but I liken it to losing a limb or something: people can live and continue accomplishing great things, including the thing they used their now lost limbs for, without them. Lose your legs, and you can still run a marathon. True, it's not a good thing to do to people, but it's also not a good thing to deprive them of their freedom and throw them in a jail where they cannot participate in society. In the right light, that can be worse than death too, but they have to do something when a criminal element poisons society, even if they don't want any harm done to the criminal. Aang is not opposed to never, ever doing people harms (there are monks like them, but Aang believes in violence being the solution when all others have failed), and this fits in to that. Aang just doens't believe in killing, but taking bending away, while still not a nice thing to do, is preferable when it's the only option.

That said, I do have my own little pet theory of how energy bending works, and it could concievably be worse than murder. If fire bending comes from a person's drive, then energy bending must take away that drive. Energy bending must be the art of changing who you are as a person. Essentially, imagine if someone could reach into you and just twist who you are, fundamentally as a person, into something different. If you love your girlfriend or wife, someone can energybend that into indifference. That is death of whoever you are, just a replacement for who you will be. In this case, Ozai would not be able to come back, since his drive is gone, and he would have no motivation to do anything, bending or not. But that's my own pet theory.

As for imprisoning them, I think you kind of defeat your own argument when every one of the people you mentioned has escaped and wreaked havok. But I don't agree that Ozai was similarly imprisoned. Aang held his hands for a moment, but Ozai has been powering through rocks all day. He didn't that moment because he had Aang right in front of him, so he tried to burn him using his fire breath immediately. Could Ozai have been captured? Eh, conceivably, but he'd be able to challenge the throne at any time, and given he is still the most powerful bender in the world, and that as a political leader he would be able to maintain control over the country, he had to be permanently dealt with to some extent, if only symbolically. Being put in jail is a temporary solution in the avatar world. Azula wasn't in the same boat, since the country didn't have loyalty to her in particular, and she was to be rehabilitated in any case.
 
And here lies the problem with the show. This series went from

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in ATLA to the new gang being all but useless. I know I'm a broken record, but Tenzin showed the most promise in the latest episode in someone who could potentially kick Korra's ass if he felt like it, and now he's either dead or completely out, and now mama korra has to come and save everybody.

I agree, it's a big problem, that they upped the problems, but made the maingroup weaker. I mean, sure, the fire nation army was scary, but the soldiers weren't that strong compared to the heroes and even the bigger threats were only very strong humans. In Korra we have a whole social movement that you can't just beat up, with a leader who can blood and energy bend and a dark god. It would've been ok, if Korra and co were weaker than Gaang, a time without war makes people less reliant on war techniques, but then they should've been getting to enemies on that level. The social movement would've been interesting if Korra wouldn't be so crude. I would've loved an avatar that didn't need the elements at all, but his wits and social intelligence.

This is something the Korra group is lacking in general - wits. Korra is a brute, Bolin a walking joke, Asami barely there when wit is needed and Mako is trying to be witty, but is seriously lacking behind. Aang on the other hand lacked knowledge, but was smart enough to make shit up and connect dots, Toph was mostly crude not unlike Korra, but actually knew how to move on an higher social level, Sokka was of course always a brain for everything and Katara shined through her calmness and ability to analyze situations. While GAANG was younger and for the most part more childish then Korra's people, they had the wits when it was important.
 
Energy bending isn't the same process as what Amon was doing. Amon was torturing people by manipulating their innards. The majority of the populace live entirely without bending, I just cannot see it as equivalent as losing your limbs.

I don't see where this is coming from. Yeah, sure, what Amon was doing wasn't spirit bending. It had basically the same effect and lots of people thought that Amon was spirit bending at the time. There's absolutely no indication that Amon's technique is painful or that the sense of loss benders felt was unique to Amon's technique.

We also see that Aang's spirit bending left one of its two victims more-or-less insane and single-mindedly focused on revenge. This does not appear to be a very humane sort of punishment, even if it or something similarly final is necessary in some cases.
 
Korra's team just suck as a whole, they aren't reliable to any degree, when shit goes down they just fail and let Korra do that. This is awful for the team dynamic, and I know people are going to complain about me comparing this ti an anime (Even though they both are animation)

But what would happen in yu yu hakusho, if the team couldn't carry their weight what if yusuke had to do everything? It would be pretty boring, in that show there were plenty of times were Yusuke couldn't do shit and had to rely on one of his companions to help him and the others out.

The Gaang did that as well, if anyone of them were less than what they were, then they wouldn't have done anything.

Bolin, Mako and Asami just continue to be useless,
 
I don't see where this is coming from. Yeah, sure, what Amon was doing wasn't spirit bending. It had basically the same effect and lots of people thought that Amon was spirit bending at the time. There's absolutely no indication that Amon's technique is painful or that the sense of loss benders felt was unique to Amon's technique.

We also see that Aang's spirit bending left one of its two victims more-or-less insane and single-mindedly focused on revenge. This does not appear to be a very humane sort of punishment, even if it or something similarly final is necessary in some cases.
Just because they thought he was energy bending doesn't mean they would have reacted the same way. I don't know, the weird pupil dilation and veins being more exaggerated looked as if it was causing pain. In Wans time no one felt great loss or pain from having their bending removed by the lion turtles. So I'm going to say it doesn't hurt. Though theRE is a difference in that the people there weren't born with their abilities. But the point being is that it is not some great spiritual violation that you're making it out to be or that Aang has caused great harm on Ozai and Yukone.

Uh, Yukone didn't turn crazy after Aang took away his bending. That dude was doing vile things to people when he had his bending. After he lost it he went on to psychologically torture his children. There's not much of a difference in his characterization before or after he lost his bending.
 
I don't see where this is coming from. Yeah, sure, what Amon was doing wasn't spirit bending. It had basically the same effect and lots of people thought that Amon was spirit bending at the time. There's absolutely no indication that Amon's technique is painful or that the sense of loss benders felt was unique to Amon's technique.

We also see that Aang's spirit bending left one of its two victims more-or-less insane and single-mindedly focused on revenge. This does not appear to be a very humane sort of punishment, even if it or something similarly final is necessary in some cases.

Spirit Bending is done as part of a recognized justice system (at least by the time Aang uses it in Republic City). So it is not the same as Amon's technique as he was acting outside the law. It's the reason why we can imprison someone for breaking the law, but imprisoning someone without cause and without a fair trial is considered cruel and unusual punishment.

As to whether or not bending can be considered an unalienable right or comparable to removing body parts/senses, I'd argue that it couldn't as it is a learned set of practices and not necessarily something inherent to a person. We remove lesser rights from prisoners all the time.
 
I don't see where this is coming from. Yeah, sure, what Amon was doing wasn't spirit bending. It had basically the same effect and lots of people thought that Amon was spirit bending at the time. There's absolutely no indication that Amon's technique is painful or that the sense of loss benders felt was unique to Amon's technique.

We also see that Aang's spirit bending left one of its two victims more-or-less insane and single-mindedly focused on revenge. This does not appear to be a very humane sort of punishment, even if it or something similarly final is necessary in some cases.

He was focused on revenge even before his bending was taken away. He said he would return to Republic City and take it then he leaves the court room and then Aang gives chase.
 
He meant morally difficult, given that Aang didn't like hurting people and what he was doing was at least as serious as chopping off Ozai's hands. Although it's also not like Aang really acts like he's worried about not being able to pull it off, and the audience isn't worried at all even when the red light is spreading over Aang.

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To be clear, I'm not saying that it was wrong to not just throw Ozai in jail. Ozai's going to be the go-to example in Avatar-land for time travel assassination thought experiments. My big issue with what happened is that spirit bending is presented as a way for Aang to permanently deal with Ozai without guilt, but it doesn't make sense for Aang to not feel guilty about bending Ozai, because it's actually a pretty brutal thing to do and Aang's got hangups about hurting people. Aang is not a soldier at heart.

I think the moral difficulty is more of the conflict between the Avatar Spirit wanting to kill Ozai and Aang himself not wanting to kill. When Aang was in the Avatar State and was about to make the kill on Ozai with all four elements, he forcibly stopped the Avatar Spirit from killing Ozai and instead imposed his own will and thereby winning out in the moral struggle.

I remember that scene very clearly. All of the Avatars speak at once, saying that what Ozai and his forefathers did was unforgivable, then they go to kill him but Aang stops them.

Shit gave me goosebumps, yo.
 
Just because they thought he was energy bending doesn't mean they would have reacted the same way. I don't know, the weird pupil dilation and veins being more exaggerated looked as if it was causing pain. In Wans time no one felt great loss or pain from having their bending removed by the lion turtles. So I'm going to say it doesn't hurt. Though theRE is a difference in that the people there weren't born with their abilities. But the point being is that it is not some great spiritual violation that you're making it out to be or that Aang has caused great harm on Ozai and Yukone.

Uh, Yukone didn't turn crazy after Aang took away his bending. That dude was doing vile things to people when he had his bending. After he lost it he went on to psychologically torture his children. There's not much of a difference in his characterization before or after he lost his bending.

I still can't make heads or tails of this. Sure, people in Wan's time didn't feel spiritually violated when they had to give their bending back to the lion turtles. Whatever. People in Sparta didn't feel like they were murdering babies when they abandoned weak-looking children on hillsides. Culture matters. I have no idea how you can watch ATLA or LoK and not conclude that for lots and lots of benders of the time, their bending is hugely important to their self-conceptions such that they would rather lose their hands than lose their bending and often descend into depression when stripped of it.

My impression was that Yakone was a pretty normal sort of evil crime boss, initially. He was a bad dude, but he was after sensible sorts of things like money and power and all that. After he gets spirit-bent, he devotes all of his energy to raising two living weapons for the purpose of getting revenge. My point was just that he seems to have taken it pretty hard. He didn't feel the same way about it that people in Wan's time did.

Spirit Bending is done as part of a recognized justice system (at least by the time Aang uses it in Republic City). So it is not the same as Amon's technique as he was acting outside the law. It's the reason why we can imprison someone for breaking the law, but imprisoning someone without cause and without a fair trial is considered cruel and unusual punishment.

As to whether or not bending can be considered an unalienable right or comparable to removing body parts/senses, I'd argue that it couldn't as it is a learned set of practices and not necessarily something inherent to a person. We remove lesser rights from prisoners all the time.

So copy-paste some of what I said just above. Also I have no idea where you're going with this "it's a legal punishment" distinction. That makes it less traumatic? I mean, it's not like it's normalized; it was done as part of the functioning of a recognized justice system one time, and that time was more like a police officer shooting an escaping criminal than an actual state-sanctioned execution which occurred after deliberation. Of course, it's also not even clear if the government did have a policy about spirit-bending. And I haven't even made an argument about whether it's a just punishment or not; I've even allowed that it might be appropriate. My position is that it's really weird for Aang at the end of ATLA to be so seemingly comfortable with it, given how brutal it is.

And basically no one has ever thought that something being a "learned set of practices" means that it must be less important to identity than something "inherent to a person". Again, this is all about culture. We think prisoners have a right to practice their religion, for example, because that's really important to them. It's really pretty silly to try to argue about how objectively important various things are to people. Importance in this sense is inherently subjective.
 
I still can't make heads or tails of this. Sure, people in Wan's time didn't feel spiritually violated when they had to give their bending back to the lion turtles. Whatever. People in Sparta didn't feel like they were murdering babies when they abandoned weak-looking children on hillsides. Culture matters. I have no idea how you can watch ATLA or LoK and not conclude that for lots and lots of benders of the time, their bending is hugely important to their self-conceptions such that they would rather lose their hands than lose their bending and often descend into depression when stripped of it.

My impression was that Yakone was a pretty normal sort of evil crime boss, initially. He was a bad dude, but he was after sensible sorts of things like money and power and all that. After he gets spirit-bent, he devotes all of his energy to raising two living weapons for the purpose of getting revenge. My point was just that he seems to have taken it pretty hard. He didn't feel the same way about it that people in Wan's time did.

Yakone doesn't seem to go insane. He gets broken out of jail and meets a girl. When he sees that they can water bend his thirst for revenge starts up. He didn't just become useless when his bending was taken away. He became angry when he saw he had a chance to get revenge on Republic City.



So copy-paste some of what I said just above. Also I have no idea where you're going with this "it's a legal punishment" distinction. That makes it less traumatic? I mean, it's not like it's normalized; it was done as part of the functioning of a recognized justice system one time, and that time was more like a police officer shooting an escaping criminal than an actual state-sanctioned execution which occurred after deliberation. Of course, it's also not even clear if the government did have a policy about spirit-bending. And I haven't even made an argument about whether it's a just punishment or not; I've even allowed that it might be appropriate. My position is that it's really weird for Aang at the end of ATLA to be so seemingly comfortable with it, given how brutal it is.

And basically no one has ever thought that something being a "learned set of practices" means that it must be less important to identity than something "inherent to a person". Again, this is all about culture. We think prisoners have a right to practice their religion, for example, because that's really important to them. It's really pretty silly to try to argue about how objectively important various things are to people. Importance in this sense is inherently subjective.

It's only brutal to you because of the implications you perceived from it. Lin wasn't going to end herself because bending was gone, I doubt any one was. In fact, the only person in the show to show any thoughts of suicide was the guy who received bending. You're really assuming things that aren't occuring.

Taking away someone's bending isn't as "brutal" as killing them. It's only brutal if you perceive it to brutal. ATLA shows us you can be a great individual without bending. Sokka loses his boomerang but moves on after. He even said it was his defining trait. The writers are trying to tell you something. People live and deal with their circumstances. The only brutal part is the idea he believes he has lost himself, not that he actually has.
 
It's only brutal to you because of the implications you perceived from it. Lin wasn't going to end herself because bending was gone, I doubt any one was. In fact, the only person in the show to show any thoughts of suicide was the guy who received bending. You're really assuming things that aren't occuring.

Taking away someone's bending isn't as "brutal" as killing them. It's only brutal if you perceive it to brutal. ATLA shows us you can be a great individual without bending. Sokka loses his boomerang but moves on after. He even said it was his defining trait. The writers are trying to tell you something. People live and deal with their circumstances. The only brutal part is the idea he believes he has lost himself, not that he actually has.
You can't equate bending to a boomerang. People grew up with the ability to bend, it was always part of them. While life don't end with the loss of said powers, it can be brutal to have them taken from you. I think it's like crippling someone. Yes, crippling. As I said, bending isn't some tool the acquired, but just another body function for benders, a gift given at birth.
To bad Legend of Korra pretty much have all non-benders as jokes that rarely contribute to anything story wise.
Old man Sato was a really amazing non-bender. Amon's force wouln't been able to take over the city or even the UN army without his help, money and most of all genius.
 
You can't equate bending to a boomerang. People grew up with the ability to bend, it was always part of them. While life don't end with the loss of said powers, it can be brutal to have them taken from you. I think it's like crippling someone. Yes, crippling. As I said, bending isn't some tool the acquired, but just another body function for benders, a gift given at birth.Old man Sato was a really amazing non-bender. Amon's force wouln't been able to take over the city or even the UN army without his help, money and most of all genius.

Honestly, I'm still wondering how he was able to do something like that considering that they took over an entire city with what pretty much amounted to a private military group.
 
It's hard to apply our real-world justice system to a cartoon fantasy world, but I don't think the writers thought it through that much.

Spirit-Bending is a kid-friendly way for Aang to deal with criminals and not have to kill them which is A) against his morals and B) against the morals the show wants to teach.

Aang was the Avatar, not necessarily a part of the justice system of Republic City but I do think he saw taking someone's bending away as a non-violent alternative to the death penalty, despite whatever psychological effect it might have on the accused at a later time.

It's a plot device that raises some interesting moral implications but I think in terms of the TV show, it's just "bad guy gets depowered, good guys win because they don't have to resort to killing."

Some people may react extremely negatively to losing their bending, others might be relieved that they weren't put to death. I dunno if it's something that can be analyzed that deeply just looking at what information the show gives us. Yakone and Ozai are like the only examples of what happened to people that Aang spirit bended and they both reacted in different ways.
 
You can't equate bending to a boomerang. People grew up with the ability to bend, it was always part of them. While life don't end with the loss of said powers, it can be brutal to have them taken from you. I think it's like crippling someone. Yes, crippling. As I said, bending isn't some tool the acquired, but just another body function for benders, a gift given at birth.Old man Sato was a really amazing non-bender. Amon's force wouln't been able to take over the city or even the UN army without his help, money and most of all genius.

In ATLA Iroh says bending is a gift and to use it wisely. Sokka's identity TO HIM is definied by his boomerang. If we're discussing personal reasons to go on they do equate. It's to show the audience that every one has something to add whether it's being the avatar or just Toph Beifong. The only one who may be physically affected by losing their bending is Toph; however, I don't think she would up and quit because she loses bending. It's not in her character to.
 
Honestly, I'm still wondering how he was able to do something like that considering that they took over an entire city with what pretty much amounted to a private military group.
Well, superior technology, effective organisation of the troops and the advantage that they had a quite a few of people behind their cause and a lot of people not caring for the other side/caring for their lives. Knock the police out and there won't be much people who want to fight the death robots or the guy who can take bending.

In ATLA Iroh says bending is a gift and to use it wisely. Sokka's identity TO HIM is definied by his boomerang. If we're discussing personal reasons to go on they do equate. It's to show the audience that every one has something to add whether it's being the avatar or just Toph Beifong. The only one who may be physically affected by losing their bending is Toph; however, I don't think she would up and quit because she loses bending. It's not in her character to.
Well, people can say that of everything. Your life is a gift, your eyesight is a gift, your ability to wake up every morning and do your work without fail is a gift.
Sokka is not dependend on that boomerang, he wasn't born with it. Taking a benders bending is like blinding a normal person or taking the voice. You can learn to live with it, but you have lost something that you was born with and that was part of your life.
 
She didn't up and quit but way to make it sound much worse than it is. She got sad but she didn't walk off the cliff.

You don't need to try to commit suicide to quit, she did quit, she just got up and got mopy ignoring everyone that was trying to help. Not trying to find a way to fix the problem, or even attempting to fix it.
 
Well, superior technology, effective organisation of the troops and the advantage that they had a quite a few of people behind their cause and a lot of people not caring for the other side/caring for their lives. Knock the police out and there won't be much people who want to fight the death robots or the guy who can take bending.

Well, people can say that of everything. Your life is a gift, your eyesight is a gift, your ability to wake up every morning and do your work without fail is a gift.
Sokka is not dependend on that boomerang, he wasn't born with it. Taking a benders bending is like blinding a normal person or taking the voice. You can learn to live with it, but you have lost something that you was born with and that was part of your life.

Eh, you can say that but obviously Aang does not see it that way. His travels show to him people are capable of great things when you're a bender and not a bender. He sees it as a gift that doesn't define you. Again, this is him, we're not speaking objectively. If you want to say it's brutal you can but it's kind of reaching considering the world they built.
 
You don't need to try to commit suicide to quit, she did quit, she just got up and got mopy ignoring everyone that was trying to help. Not trying to find a way to fix the problem, or even attempting to fix it.

I dunno what she was "quitting" from? She lost her bending and at that point was under the assumption that the Avatar line was broken. Anyone would be pretty damn lost as a person at that point. Katara said there was nothing she could do for her - at that point she's not ignoring anyone who's trying to help, there's no one that could have helped her except for Aang's Avatar spirit.
 
I dunno what she was "quitting" from? She lost her bending and at that point was under the assumption that the Avatar line was broken. Anyone would be pretty damn lost as a person at that point. Katara said there was nothing she could do for her - at that point she's not ignoring anyone who's trying to help, there's no one that could have helped her except for Aang's Avatar spirit.

Well that ultimately goes back to the writing of the series, it would have been the perfect time to show us that Korra isn't a quitter, show us at least attempting to either relearn the other elements again, or trying to be strong even when she was broken inside

Have her actually help her with the bending element she still had, instead we just see her mope about, and Aang shows up and gives her abilities back without any work thought or realization from Korra's end.
 
Eh, you can say that but obviously Aang does not see it that way. His travels show to him people are capable of great things when you're a bender and not a bender. He sees it as a gift that doesn't define you. Again, this is him, we're not speaking objectively. If you want to say it's brutal you can but it's kind of reaching considering the world they built.
You still don't get my point. There is a difference between somebody who has something at birth and loses it later and someone who was born without it anyway.

Dat Hype... check out the latest .gif from the KorraNation tumblr:

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Here's their previous one:

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Looks awesome! #hype
 
You still don't get my point. There is a difference between somebody who has something at birth and loses it later and someone who was born without it anyway.

That's awesome but that's not how the show wants us to see it. We can transpose reality into this show but we have to go by what the show presents us. If we continue assuming we may as well wonder why stupid battle strategies were used, why they took the long routes, certain animals, how intelligent animals really are, etc. It's their universe. They showed us and we can only assume as much that's presented. If you want to say they'll be lost without it you can but you're really just transposing real life into this fictional world.
 
Some redditors are guessing he's shouting "P'liiii" but I think he's shouting a command to spring a trap. Or warning to avoid one...
 
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