Beelzebufo
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An I the only one who thinks the WiiFit stage isn't on the 3DS version because the 3DS can't handle the mirror?
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Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread XIII: Leak Dynasty
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Spinosaurus
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Also Mario Kart 7 I guess
I'm just thinking out loud here, but since real life mallards are black and green maybe Sakurai wanted to avoid using them. There's no such thing as a blue and pink mallard, so there's no reason to feel bad about beating them up. That might also explain the duck's redesigned cartoony eyes.
InvincibleAgent
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Would be creepy if the 3DS camera created a version of your face in the background
IntelliHeath
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Appearances in other games:
Melee
Wario Ware
Wario Ware Twisted
Wii Play Shooting Range
You do make a point that green headed ones seem to be the default.
Yeah, Green headed duck SHOULD be default but apparently they mightn't.
Replace the mirror with another background.
Ported stages are still cosmetically different. Battlefield has a different backdrops, MegaMan's is set during the day. WiiFit can therefore also have a different backdrop.
peanutbutterlatte
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Can't be because Wii Fit isn't on the 3DS.
3DS handles the Punch-Out stage with the copying screen, which renders twice, so why the heck not?
Mario is the one misalligned from da Doc. Kidding aside, point taken on the uneven characters.
things have changed
Ah yes I forgot about that. I loved that little touch. Just one of the reasons it's one of my favourite MK7 tracks.
Pikmin was at one point tried on 3DS, but they decided against it, IIRC.
Punch out!! is playable on NES virtual console on 3DS!
(none of that matters, we may never know why there is no 3DSfit stage!)
Every character on the CSS focuses entirely on the character's face. You can see that in this video as well. Kirby in particular is relatively zoomed in, even when he's mostly a ball shape, and you can kind of tell that as well in the leak.
Meta Knight is comparatively zoomed out to show more of his details. It makes it look kind of shrinked in comparison to the other characters. I don't really think it's that imperative to get more of his detail in that image seeing how we get the render on the bottom screen regardless. Why is he so zoomed out? Even Brawl's select icon for him was zoomed in.
Might just be a personal thing.
IntelliHeath
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Hmm, you brought up a good point there. I could see Sakurai doing that to avoid the legal problems or so.
Framebuffer != double rendering. It can be an intensive process if emulated, but if designed for it it can end up being really economical.
Maybe, but doesn't the Boxing Ring have something similar with the large screen in the background?
Supposedly leaked. No proof that's it's real or fake as of now.
Still lacking in any sort of surefire confirmation, so take if with a grain of salt (if you're into that kind of thing).
Nope, someone edited to make it aligned just fine.
Awww dammit, back to teamidk.
IntelliHeath
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I don't really believe that leak is real but I would like to bring up a point or question about it. Would you think the faker would GO with classic default duck INSTEAD of Purple, Blue and White Duck if they made the fake model?
PadWarrior
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You have to ask a Smashboards mod that lol.
Yeah, this and let's not forget that Fountain of Dreams' reflections on Melee also caused some amount of lag in four player matches (and it's even worse if you play with 4 Ice Climbers on FoD). It's a similar situation.
I am sure Sakurai learned a lot from FoD in Melee. Even if the lag in 4 player matches on FoD isn't immediately noticeable, it's there.
I know this would likely constitute a formal logical fallacy, but I think the fact that it hasn't been disproven yet despite its detail is evidence of its veracity. Even in professional-looking hoaxes, fatal discrepencies are found. The "deconfirmations" of this leak aren't very convincing.
OricWindstar
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You see I changed the color to confuse people. Don't you see, I'm a genius! Listen to me!
Red Arremer
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Come on, that's not even remotely the same.
All the clones still are bordering their respective series (even Ganondorf extends in an L shape upward to be on top of YL), and the clones all are very specifically placed at the borders and right next to the character they're a clone of.
It's very orderly in that sense.
Gonzo The Great
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But where are we supposed to battle Wii Fit Trainer in Classic Mode? I'm currently trying to find the screenshot that shows the WFT icon on the map with branching paths.
Palutena stood strong, even to today, but her actual game mode was way different.
People will go to extraordinary lengths to fake stuff.
2 links and 2 marios but no ridley? fake.
Mega slow, bro
Well looking at the video of Duck Hunt, purple head ducks are the first you see, but the ducks the dog holds up are always green headed. But other than that they seem to have equal priority. It's only looking at them from other games that one can say green ones are the main ones.
So really it could go either way.
Leak is fake = faker based it on what they assumed to be default (first duck you see)
Leak is real = it's true to the original and the first costume (default) should be based on the first duck.
We had to wait until the official reveal to deconfirm the Palutena leak, and people still debate on whether that was real or not.
I mean, he's in the intro for christ's sake. He must be in.
I'm not sure. We can't even see the full Duck Hunt render, so for all we know there could be a black and green duck sitting down by the dog's feet or something. I don't think the color of the duck sways the leak either way.
The duck hunt dog though is still a dog...it's OK to beat up a dog, but it's not OK to beat up a duck? Especially considering the original game was about shooting ducks and all...
PadWarrior
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LOL perfect.
Hyperactivity
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Beelzebufo
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Yeah, but I guess that could be different? I have no clue how the technical stuff would work, that's just my first thought after seeing that other non-handheld games got stages.
Yeah, this is what I'm thinking too. The last thing Sakurai needs is Peta getting mad about duck violence.
The dog looks really cartoony though, and always has (it had big eyes and laughed at you). That's why we don't see Nintendog. The ducks always looked more real (smaller eyes), especially the realistically colored ones.
That's because there's nothing to compare it to. Any nitpicks are just that, nitpicks. The perfect way to fake something is when there's nothing to counter it and since we still know so little about Smash it's perfect for it. Notice how the screen focus on things we can't really compare to.
Now THAT's a VERY good question!
Every time I watch the E3 reveal of Melee I wonder whether or not the burst of people cheering during the Metroid portion of the cinematic are doing it for Metroid or doing it for Ridley showing up.
The original Duck Hunt ducks were somewhat realistic, but the dog is a blatant cartoon character, especially when put next to a Nintendog.
PadWarrior
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I've always wondered that as well.
It's not fake just because it challenges conventions. Melee already came out so you know its character select screen is real and it's easier for you to defend what would otherwise seem like a nonsensical design decision.
That's not how things of this nature works. It's just there until proven real, OR fake. Not just automatically legit until proven wrong.
The "leakers" chose the right time to leak it. Most of the characters are known, and more than likely we won't see anything to prove either way until the games release.
Relax. You act as if you leaked it yourself, the way you're defending it.
Seems the debate rages on. Are there more on #teamreal or #teamfake now?
I must know who is winning!
Fake.
Eh. While I think that's a fairly good argument against the leak-that WFT lacks a stage-it's worth noting that there is a history of characters not truly having a stage (Captain Falcon and Ness in 64, Marth and Roy in Melee, R.O.B. in Brawl). So, if this leak is true, WFT could easily have Find Mii or Tomadachi Life as a stage or something.
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