There really is no denying that the screen capped and video taped parts of the leak are true. Ignore everything that is solely text based.
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Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread XIII: Leak Dynasty
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There really is no denying that the screen capped and video taped parts of the leak are true. Ignore everything that is solely text based.
Between the Gematsu leak (which has still gotten 9 of 11 characters correct), the Sneaky Spirit enemy, and Sakurai’s love for music in general, I’m genuinely surprised there isn’t a Rhythm Heaven character or at the very least a stage. There have been three installments since Brawl’s planning period plus an arcade port — it’s a fairly major new Nintendo IP. I’m sincerely hoping we haven’t seen the full cast.
Yes, let's continuing celebrating a guy who actively ruins a friend's job and trust. Disgusting.
Also, what I hate about this reveal is the people are already saying they don't want this game because of the roster. Or people are now getting so overloaded that people won't play the game because they feel that this experience will be better.
No, sadly.
The game was rated by ESRB a long time ago. The likely scenario is that some characters in the build shown were just not ready yet. Maybe some were kept hidden as a safety precaution too in the case of a leak; who knows really? There's a lot of things Nintendo can hold internally, but you never know once a game like this goes outside of headquarters.
All I'm saying is it's plausible that ESRB doesn't know everything, and it's clear they don't need to know everything, because as they say on their site, it's a tenuous process to go through every single facet of a game. It takes up the developer's time and it takes up the rating board's time. All they need is enough information to rate the game.
And this is why NDAs are, well, NDAs. You tell it to someone, they're going to tell other people. I mean, obviously it sucks for the guy, but he knew what would happen.
my most wanted characters were lyn from fire emblem and saki amamiya from S&P,both ended up as AT though
I've wanted Lyn since before Brawl. She got AT'd in front of me twice. Thirst unquenched for that play style. I latched on to Takamaru (already knew about him from the same time Lyn became a thing for pre-Brawl), only to watch him get gloriously disconfirmed and Assist Trophied the day after the weekend Nintendo drummed up hype for the first international release of his game at a fairly packed venue (San Diego Comic Con).
Regulus Tara and I have an unspoken bond solely because of our desire to see S&P characters playable in Smash.
I am clearly masochistic.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Trade secrets are kind of a big deal.
Not really, no.
subtleglitch
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looks amazing. Can't wait to play as him.Hours Left
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How so?
Exactly!
Rip actual decent hype reactions instead of 'OK (character) was confirmed'
That mega man reveal. Holy shit.
Too many conflicting reports and nothing even slightly verifiable about it.
Rapture
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reposting link to the catch up post (that georly so kindly to put together) for those just joining us - http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=127008881&postcount=15308
It hurts to think of how dumb I would feel if I had to explain that I was fired over that to my family.
"So I lost my job..."
"Why?"
"So everyone on the Internet could know the Smash 4 roster three weeks early."
". . ."
Samurai_Heart
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DLC was apparently faked to source out fake leakers
Starphoenix
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All accounts so far point to MFL being a BSer, and there have been a bunch of contradicting words about remaining characters.
DICKS AHOY
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Good thing I've still got my WIi U stages and music to look forward to. Characters are not my highest priority.
But yes, the reactions with everyone will be missed. Hopefully the trailers themselves deliver. I mean we knew Captain Falcon was returning but his trailer was sill "hype" as the youths say.
Magnifico!Membero Americo
My theory is that they couldn't arrange a time to record VO w/ Kiefer, so they had to delay his inclusion. They would have used another VO, but Konami wouldn't let them. So when Kiefer is available to start recording, they'll add him in as DLC later.
A Link to the Past
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The leaker deserved to get in trouble. Yet, how many people were actively feeling this way, as opposed to chomping at the bit for more and more leaks? While he is in control of his own actions, the only reason people are tempted to leak information is because people like us demand it constantly.
I'd rather they did a monthly/bi-monthly half hour stream going into details about how mechanics and characters work in the new game rather than PoTD's.
Or even both, a lot of information in the PoTD's means nothing to me compared to hearing more about the base mechanics, how characters work and custom moves.
Or even both, a lot of information in the PoTD's means nothing to me compared to hearing more about the base mechanics, how characters work and custom moves.
Storm Kyleis
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StreetsAhead
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Don't worry. It'll get old in a couple of months. Just ask JoeM86 or JordanN about their tags.
At 1:39 in that video, look at the bottom right near Kirby's sign. An alien finger shows up and touches the screen, what does this mean? =O
Hours Left
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What's the deal with that? I saw someone mention an All-Stars image?
I don't care how we get the Ice Climbers, they just need to be in the game.
You wouldn't happen to be a peach player?
Alright guys, obviously anything could change, but if this is indeed our final list of newcomers:
How do you feel Smash 4 did with it's newcomer selection? I made this picture so you try and think of the newcomers as a whole, not just the ones leaked.
Me personally? A few missed opportunities aside, fucking stoked. 15 new fighters is nothing to scoff regardless of clones, and you could even bump that number to 17 if you count the Mii Fighter as 3 different characters.
Aside from Dark Pit, it's pretty great.
The problem I have with Dark Pit, it's not that he might have a clone or something, but that he seems a fucking awful choice, plus the salt of Metroid, a franchise with 25+ years with lots of games, having only 2 (Would be one if he didn't split up) reps, while Kid Icarus, a franchise that was dead for a long time, with only 3 games, getting 3 reps, with DP being a new character. And I don't even want Ridley. I would fucking love a Chozo or maybe a Luminoth. Heck maybe even Rundas, a Ing or a Space Pirate. And there's also Dark Samus/Metroid Prime. And if it had to be a Kid Icarus character, put Phosphora or Pandora, for God's sake. Or Magnus. Even Thanathos is a better choice than a fucking Pit recolor. I can't even imagine a Final Smash for Dark Pit.
I am salty as fuck.
Karsticles
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The animations in the play video are pretty terrible. I'm going to assume that this is a very old build being tested.
I wouldn't say so for Rosalina & Luma as Luma is used in Rosalina's attacks. If anything Rosalina & Luma imo is a different take on Olimar and his Pikmin. In that Luma is also essentially an item that she's using to fight. That's why imo Rosalina could be added in her current form and why Olimar was stripped of some of his Pikmin.
As you said the amount of things on screen were probably a problem, although that would be purely because of the 3DS version. It was probably the main reason Olimar had his Pikmin cut since with his original Pikmin count there would be a total of 24 things on screen for a 4p match (Without items on FD). Considering the difficulties in keeping track of characters on the 3DS version without and sometimes with the black outline having 24 things on screen to keep track of on the 3DS screen would be a nightmare. There's also the possibility that the 3DS simply can't have that many things on screen while maintaining a stable framerate considering that assist trophies run at 30fps compared to everything else.
For the Ice Climbers i can see it being a combination of things on screen + AI. Since in a 4p match you'd have 4 player controlled characters and 4 AI characters mimicking the player controlled characters. Wasn't the only time that Melee suffered a frame rate dip when 4 Ice Climbers were on screen at once and fighting?
With that in mind and the 3DS' limitations it wouldn't surprise me if they are cut. What is possibly annoying or would be is if they are or were also cut from the WiiU version to maintain roster parity -_-
I'd rather find out that the guy standing in front of me is going to be the last one to get food sooner rather than later. I'm happy that I don't need to bother checking Miiverse every weekday.
No sympathy for the leaker though, he fucked up and deserves everything he gets.
theprodigy
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I'm pretty sure we still remember JoeM86's tag.
gonna make sure every Pokemon on my team has Heat Wave
Considering how many games Nintendo releases and how this is pretty much the only time we've had an ESRB, I'd say he doesn't have much excuse. Sure there's demand, but literally everyone else managed to resist and avoided leaking things.
Letterbomb
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Sorry but lmfao what am I reading here? Nondisclosure and confidentiality is part of his duties and responsibilities at his job. Nintendo is PAYING him to do these things. He breaks that agreement that he voluntarily entered into, and you're saying it's unethical that they take rightful and legal action against him? He's scamming them of their money, dude.
I don't even...
Thanks @ other responders about finding leakers.
Your world sounds horrible, no offense. It's good that we get this kind of escalating information, especially from Nintendo. The last thing any of us should want is to have all the cards laid out creating this unrealistic expectation and then being disappointed when things aren't quite as they seem. If we had all the characters told to us, but then they had to be cut for any reason at all, do you think that the outrage of that would be worth the trade?
I liked the mystery and speculation that we've had. I liked being surprised at just how some later characters were revealed and what they could do, and how our expectations were not always what we thought they were. I liked being introduced to a concept and going from 'what the f**k is this?' to 'Why did I not know I wanted this?!'. What you want is to rip out that speculation and excitement and then you expect the anticipation and hype to hold out from reveal to release?
Same. Freakin. Here. It's not worth it to me. I'm already playing the final game EARLIER than most everyone else I'm not gonna jeopardize my career!
Oh ho ho! It's ok BY2K, at least your tag isn't half of the dumb ones from those who frequent OT section. We can all chuckle about that in the future of GAF.
That's the %age flying/exploding because he died.
Monster Zero
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Hiding characters in a fighting game always seemed weird and awkward to me. I'd much rather have every fighter revealed at the start and available for pitched combat. I still have nightmares about MVC2 and my memory card dying.
Masked Man
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Likewise. I might try to hug him at Press Start instead, haha.
This is what hurts the most if this truly is the final roster. It's going to be a brilliant game, and I'm already super-excited about the character selection! I just hate to think that a character from my favorite game of all time got cut from Smash 4/5.
Lots of people in disbelief, bitching about it getting leaked (since whoever shared the information was violating an NDA) and lol'ing at DHD and Bowser Jr.
The important thing to remember is that we still have Smash for Wii U coming up, and if it does include DLC, there's still a ton of stuff we have yet to see!
OricWindstar
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Me and my buddy are already planning a Male Wii Fit Trainer / Duck Hunt Dog team called Man's Best Friend; you bitches better be ready to get rocked online.
EDIT: Haha, why this one for top of the page...
EDIT: Haha, why this one for top of the page...
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