Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 14: Snake... had a hard life

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Oh yeah, I forgot that the game is coming sooner in Japan. September will be tough...

I know, I really wish Hyrule Warriors was coming out a little earlier in September because that would help with the wait. Instead Hyrule Warriors is only going to help with the final week of waiting :/
 
It's crazy to think the OT will be up in a week and some change. Let's try not to get to OT3 of that before the game even comes out.

Well, I think It might be better if we just release OT very close to release date due to the fact that we might get new information so close to the release date. Xane and I are not sure about that. We are still working on the project many as we can.
 
I really hope smash gets the support mario kart 8 is getting, even though mario kart 8 is strictly internal nintendo, so it's not entirely the same.

Smash 4 is basically contract work, so once it ends, who's to say what support there is, if the contract is extended, or if a new contract is made.

I really hope we get additions to smash 4 rather than making us wait 5-6 years for new stuff.

Agreed.


You'd think they'd have something worked out with the Smash team. Smash lends itself to DLC better than any game in the industry.

DLC is likely not going to require the same workload as the base game, so it's entirely possible that Nintendo is going to develop any DLC internally.
 
People really should just assume Ridley is out until proven otherwise-it's better for your health that way!

That's what I'm doing. Ridley is my most wanted character but I'm just going to assume that he's just a stage boss until I see other wise. That won't stop me from hoping though.
 
Well, I think It might be better if we just release OT very close to release date due to the fact that we might get new information so close to the release date. Xane and I are not sure about that. We are still working on the project many as we can.
Good luck!
Smash is nearly here guys! Not so long to wait!
 
DLC is likely not going to require the same workload as the base game, so it's entirely possible that Nintendo is going to develop any DLC internally.

I'm very wary of content being created without sakurai's input. If he's on board, but the dev work is all nintendo-internal, then that's ok.

Not saying nintendo can't do a great job without him... but I'd definitely be apprehensive and i'd put it up to more scrutiny.
 
I don't understand why 3D straw neck ridley doesn't get so much hate.
Just look at that neck. It makes no sense.
The Other M look at least has a bit more meat to make supporting is large head a tad more believable.



The original desigin was never meant to leave the 2D sprite base when I look at it.


The Prime Ridley Meta or Omega win my vote for best look though.

I like the Other M design over the original design if just because of that stupid neck. How does he swallow things? I could understand the argument that maybe it stretches, but then what is up with that ball joint? It's just weird looking.

Metaridley.jpg


Meta-Ridley's neck is better, and is probably my favorite design too, but it's still really thin considering that the metal part is a cage for his actual neck.
 
I was a PlayStation kid, just for Crash Bandicoot and Spyro. But when the series dies, I got a DS and Wii and started exploring Mario and Zelda.

Welcome to the world of nintendo! You will enjoy it!
Me too. I was never able to appreciate Zelda games till after I was out of high school. Evolving tastes, I guess. The first one I played to completion was Twilight Princess. Now I adore the series, though I'm a bit more partial to the 3D Zeldas since those are the ones I played first.

I think twilight princess will be next for me
 
Alright, I have a speculation that I would like to share with y'all.

Since people are still holding their hopes ON 5 characters rumor and 5 blank slots so I would like to share my thoughts on that.

It's possible that we might get 5 characters or not since it's all up to japanese players sharing the information with us on release date. However, I think Snake might got cold stone disconfirmation due to the fact that he didn't appeared in ESRB video. Why do I think that he might not be in the game. Well, I would like to think that Nintendo would be required to send the videos to ESRB where they would elaborating Snake's move sets with weapons (C4, Rocket Launcher, Mines, Grenades, etc)


I really hope smash gets the support mario kart 8 is getting, even though mario kart 8 is strictly internal nintendo, so it's not entirely the same.

Smash 4 is basically contract work, so once it ends, who's to say what support there is, if the contract is extended, or if a new contract is made.

I really hope we get additions to smash 4 rather than making us wait 5-6 years for new stuff.

Same here. I would love to see some kind of DLC bundle like few characters or so.
 
I know, I really wish Hyrule Warriors was coming out a little earlier in September because that would help with the wait. Instead Hyrule Warriors is only going to help with the final week of waiting :/

It's annoying that the next few months are so packed but there was literally nothing on Summer.
 
I'm very wary of content being created without sakurai's input. If he's on board, but the dev work is all nintendo-internal, then that's ok.

Not saying nintendo can't do a great job without him... but I'd definitely be apprehensive and i'd put it up to more scrutiny.

Sakurai is always wanting to quit the Smash series and when he finally manages to do so Nintendo is going to continue the series without him. I think doing DLC internally with some oversight by Sakurai while he starts work on his next game would be a good way to train some Nintendo devs for that day.
 
Sakurai is always wanting to quit the Smash series and when he finally manages to do so Nintendo is going to continue the series without him. I think doing DLC internally with some oversight by Sakurai while he starts work on his next game would be a good way to train some Nintendo devs for that day.
I dont think Nintendo will let him quit the series..
Its like Aonuma trying do to something that is not Zelda.. Nintendo always pushes him back to Zelda. I think the same might happen to Sakurai
 
So - let's entertain the thought that the leaked roster is final, and those 5 slots will stay empty in the game.

However, there will be a DLC character pack, with 9 characters - 3 newcomers, 3 new clones and 3 veterans. Which would you choose to fill it?

Also, characters which are already stage bosses / hazards and assist trophies are ineligible.
 
That "In Defense Of Ridley" image that's going around, it makes one really good point - Palutena's the nearest thing to a direct comparison we have for Ridley, with the way Sakurai handled teasing both of them and almost deconfirming them both at various points throughout promotion. He seems to be really in touch with fans attitudes and it's starting to seem more and more likely to me that Ridley might get revealed as a playable character, just like Palutena was.

Aside - I really miss those Ridley .gifs we used to get where he looked pissed off at the PotD for not being about him.

Second Aside - just imagine the Ridley reveal. It'll be a character reveal for Bowser Jr. or something, and then after it's all over and the screen's gone to black, there'll be a flash of red light in the darkness, which will resolve into a pair of eyes glaring at the screen, then a rage-filled scream tears through the night as

Ridley Soars into Battle!

Mmmmm.
 
I like the Other M design over the original design if just because of that stupid neck. How does he swallow things? I could understand the argument that maybe it stretches, but then what is up with that ball joint? It's just weird looking.

Metaridley.jpg


Meta-Ridley's neck is better, and is probably my favorite design too, but it's still really thin considering that the metal part is a cage for his actual neck.

Many beaked and winged creatures in real life have super long and thing necks. Storks in particular can swallow pretty big fish and baby alligators. Ridley can too but it doesn't really matter cause vidia game.
 
Sakurai is always wanting to quit the Smash series and when he finally manages to do so Nintendo is going to continue the series without him. I think doing DLC internally with some oversight by Sakurai while he starts work on his next game would be a good way to train some Nintendo devs for that day.

Yeah, that's fine, it'll be sad to see him go, but --- smash 4 is his baby, he had a hand in it, I don't want to see smash 4 handed off to another director for DLC.

Smash 5, if it's not sakurai... well that's another story, but at least it'll have a constant director.
 
I don't understand why 3D straw neck ridley doesn't get so much hate.
Just look at that neck. It makes no sense.
The Other M look at least has a bit more meat to make supporting is large head a tad more believable.



The original desigin was never meant to leave the 2D sprite base when I look at it.


The Prime Ridley Meta or Omega win my vote for best look though.

Look at that face and muscles man. I don't care about the neck (although it is HIS neck for like, almost every game)

The Other M design screams horrible Team Ninja. He looks like a fucking duck.

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I was the opposite. I loved Zelda as a kid, while Mario was just something I was aware of and played here and there, but didn't really obsess over.

Mario has grown on me more and more though. I think the bite sized levels and objectives mesh better with me these days than most things. Just a few weeks ago I finished SMB3 for the first time (though I had played it on GBA a lot). Hopefully I can manage to finish SMB 1 without using the saves afforded by the GBC version.

Oh man, SMB3 is so good. I've loved Mario games for a long time but I never had an NES or SNES as a kid so a bunch of the older sidescrollers I didn't play until recently. I just played SMB3 late last year and maybe finished it up early this year. I've got an e-reader with some of the level cards so I'm really eager to get the rest and play through the new levels.

You can't say that for sure.

...though that'd explain his weird aging process. He wasn't getting older - he was evolving.

Haha, that is excellent.

I think twilight princess will be next for me

Personally, if anything I would recommend you hold off on TP until much later in your Zelda series playthrough. It's the most similar to OoT and could feel redundant in ways. In a lot of ways it's very different, but I think the overall feel is most similar. The same would go for LTTP and LBW.

Alright, I have a speculation that I would like to share with y'all.

Since people are still holding their hopes ON 5 characters rumor and 5 blank slots so I would like to share my thoughts on that.

It's possible that we might get 5 characters or not since it's all up to japanese players sharing the information with us on release date. However, I think Snake might got cold stone disconfirmation due to the fact that he didn't appeared in ESRB video. Why do I think that he might not be in the game. Well, I would like to think that Nintendo would be required to send the videos to ESRB where they would elaborating Snake's move sets with weapons (C4, Rocket Launcher, Mines, Grenades, etc)

No question in my mind you are absolutely right about this. While it's possible they could submit DLC separately if it would change the rating or have a different rating, I really doubt Snake would be a DLC character, I would think Konami would want him in the base game if he was going to be in. I'm guessing that in part, Nintendo looked at customer feedback from Brawl and did not find Snake to be a significant reason why a lot of players purchased the game.
 
I dont think Nintendo will let him quit the series..
Its like Aonuma trying do to something that is not Zelda.. Nintendo always pushes him back to Zelda. I think the same might happen to Sakurai

Iwata always gets Sakurai to make a new Smash game because they're friends. Sakurai isn't a Nintendo employee and they can't really make him work on any game he doesn't want to. I think it's very likely that this could be Sakurai's last Smash game and I think it would be in Nintendo's best interest to get him to help them build a team specifically for Smash and pick the next head for the series.
 
That "In Defense Of Ridley" image that's going around, it makes one really good point - Palutena's the nearest thing to a direct comparison we have for Ridley, with the way Sakurai handled teasing both of them and almost deconfirming them both at various points throughout promotion. He seems to be really in touch with fans attitudes and it's starting to seem more and more likely to me that Ridley might get revealed as a playable character, just like Palutena was.

Aside - I really miss those Ridley .gifs we used to get where he looked pissed off at the PotD for not being about him.
Agreed on all points.
 
I'm very wary of content being created without sakurai's input. If he's on board, but the dev work is all nintendo-internal, then that's ok.

Not saying nintendo can't do a great job without him... but I'd definitely be apprehensive and i'd put it up to more scrutiny.

I doubt they'd do something without the main producer and designer giving input. I was referring the involvement of Namco.
 
I dont think Nintendo will let him quit the series..
Its like Aonuma trying do to something that is not Zelda.. Nintendo always pushes him back to Zelda. I think the same might happen to Sakurai
I think the plan for Smash Wii was to remake Melee into an online title if Sakurai decided he wasn't coming back.
 
However, there will be a DLC character pack, with 9 characters - 3 newcomers, 3 new clones and 3 veterans. Which would you choose to fill it?
Newcomers
1. Dixie Kong
2. Chorus Kids
3. Inkling

New Clones
4. Toon Zelda (small, fast Zelda)
5. Plusle & Minun (two Pikachu attacking one after the other)
6. Medusa (slower, stronger Palutena with darkness effects) [I'd rather have Lucas, but I'm sticking to your rules]

Veterans
7. Ice Climbers
8. Mewtwo
9. Wolf

It's pretty tough coming up with new clones that make sense. Medusa barely works, and I'd replace Palutena's shield bash attacks with claw swipes -- Ganondorf had his own jab and forward air in Melee, so why not?
 
So is the leak probably the final roster? With the addition of shulk, duck hunt, and bowser jr? I hope there's more. Something just seems missing...like toad...
 
Wasn't the plan for the Wii Smash to make a Melee Online title if Sakurai had not come onto Brawl?

Basically, yeah. I mean we don't know for sure, but that's what was said in interviews. Leave the roster the same(maybe add a small group of characters), update the graphics, and add online play. The end. I'm sure they would have added some new stages or something as well.

Sakurai loves Smash Bros, though. It lets him be the curator of an interactive Nintendo museum, something he clearly has passion for considering how many times he's come back to this series after leaving the company. I could see this being his last Smash Bros game, since now he's basically trained Namco-Bandai's team to handle future titles, but I feel like he'd still be onboard in some sort of advisory capacity even if he wasn't the lead designer/director.

Sakurai is able to walk away from the series and let someone else handle it, he's had two chances to do that now and opted to work on the game. I think, for his health, he might want to let this be his last hands-on Smash Bros title though. He looks young but he's in his 40s and these games are murder on him.
 
So is the leak probably the final roster? With the addition of shulk, duck hunt, and bowser jr? I hope there's more. Something just seems missing...like toad...

Or like my beautiful Ice Climbers;'(

If the leaked roster is right but Ice Climbers and Toad were in I would be SUPER HAPPY.
 
So is the leak probably the final roster? With the addition of shulk, duck hunt, and bowser jr? I hope there's more. Something just seems missing...like toad...
Well All Star mode was locked which implies that there maybe me at least one more character.

Eh I'm not worried. Time seems to be going faster and faster every year for me.

That's because that is how the human brain works. The more time that you've been alive the quicker time passes. It all has to do with your brain being used to things with age.
 
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