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[Beelzebufo]

Wtf, is that real?

Nope! It's wrong on a few counts.

 

[Cse]

The hell was this? [click to enlarge of course]

Where did you find this?

 

[PadWarrior]

April 9 was that before the smash direct?

 

[Pikma]

I'd trade 15 characters on the current roster just for

Spoiler

more salt

.

Oh I'm glad I'm not alone, I love

Spoiler

SmashGAF's salt

 

[The_Intruder]

And it was posted back on April

Yes that's why I've said "wtf".

 

[Luqi]

Did you guys see this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_Hm2nLQIxw

 

[Aβydoς]

ANYWAY

I hope the Stage Editor is back in the WiiU version.

 

[Fireblend]

Guys, I wouldn't freak out about a possibly photoshopped 4chan post unless it was archived. Who would have saved that post as a picture anyway?

 

[Kriken]

With all due respect for other people's mains, there's a pretty decent chunk of the roster I'd trade for Paper Mario. Most of the Brawl newcomers would be gone.

You need your old avatar so I can quote it

I'd trade 15 characters on the current roster just for

Spoiler

more salt

.

 

[wuth]

The hell was this? [click to enlarge of course]

Probably fake. It's not like it's difficult to photoshop a 4chan thread.

 

[Xpike]

All ties to metal gear gone.
Damn not even a trophy in that leak.
Rayman even got a trophy.

Yeah, it's too extreme. Even Mewtwo got a trophy in Brawl.

 

[Cse]

Guys, I wouldn't freak out about a possibly photoshopped 4chan post unless it was archived. Who would have saved that post as a picture anyway?

That's what I was thinking.

 

[IntelliHeath]

The hell was this? [click to enlarge of course]

Hmm. Photoshopped? Also no Duck Hunt Dog and Bowser Jr. there so it's strange.

It would be cool if Smash 4 would get 64 playable characters to pay a honor to Nintendo 64, the first home of Smash.

 

[JoeInky]

That post number isn't archived but I was able to find a few people talking about it saying it didn't have anything to do with smash, all I can get is a 404 though.

 

[Deleted member 74300]

We already have Captain Falcon & Ganondorf, Marth & Lucina...would we really need more clones of their moveset ?

Maybe if Sakurai would give Ganondorf something new already... Black Shadow or even Deathborn could take his old moves.

 

[Macka]

I would, with a very heavy heart indeed, trade Rosalina, Palutena, Lucina, Dark Pit and Miis for Ridley alone.

It would be a truly hard sacrifice to make, but sometimes these things just have to happen.

I'd trade:

Rosalina
Shulk
Bowser Jr.
Wii Fit Trainer
Dark Pit
Lucina
Dr. Mario

For any of Isaac, Ridley or Mewtwo.

 

[EulaCapra]

False alarm. Back to your regularly scheduled program.

Hah, I remember that thread. Someone made that picture shortly after the Robin trailer and tried to pass it off as an old post, but someone dug up the post number and it was just someone whining about street fighter or something.

 

[-Horizon-]

The hell was this? [click to enlarge of course]

Uh huh

 

[DrStiles]

I would guess that K. Rool is probably one of them.

Yea that's what I was thinking. I was having a hard time coming up with other characters from that era that would have fit that category and been requested for smash.

 

[IntelliHeath]

False alarm. Back to your regularly scheduled program.

Thought so, carry on.

 

[Xane]

ANYWAY

I hope the Stage Editor is back in the WiiU version.

Same! Hopefully they can be saved to SD-Cards again. I really want to crack the format again and write a Stage Studio for PC a second time~

Making crazy stages is fun!

 

[The Bankslammer]

i'd trade the entire roster for an elite beat agents fighting game

yeah bet that makes you feel pretty bad about liking a dumb character huh

 

[The Great Gonzales]

You need your old avatar so I can quote it

I can take care of that for you hold on

With all due respect for other people's mains, there's a pretty decent chunk of the roster I'd trade for Paper Mario. Most of the Brawl newcomers would be gone.

 

[Toxi]

i'd trade the entire roster for an elite beat agents fighting game

yeah bet that makes you feel pretty bad about liking a dumb character huh

No, I agree. Elite Beat Agents fighter would be tits.

 

[DrStiles]

i'd trade the entire roster for an elite beat agents fighting game

yeah bet that makes you feel pretty bad about liking a dumb character huh

I would love an Elite Beat Agents stage that cycles through a few of their different story settings. A lot of really cool locations/secondary characters in that series that would be a neat addition to smash. Not to mention you could make a guilty pleasure mash up of all those songs.

 

[Luqi]

No, I agree. Elite Beat Agents fighter would be tits.

The alts being Elite Beat Divas!

OH GOD PLS SAKURAI

 

[Spinosaurus]

I just want a new EBA, period.

 

[The Bankslammer]

No, I agree. Elite Beat Agents fighter would be tits.

i'd main this cat

 

[Finale Fireworker]

No, I agree. Elite Beat Agents fighter would be [enjoyable].

I, without any bias at all, think this is a good idea as well.

 

[PadWarrior]

Did you guys see this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_Hm2nLQIxw

Interesting

 

[DrStiles]

The alts being Elite Beat Divas!

OH GOD PLS SAKURAI

Yes please

Agents Are GO!!

 

[Deleted member 74300]

i'd trade the entire roster for an elite beat agents fighting game

yeah bet that makes you feel pretty bad about liking a dumb character huh

So this basically?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hzv94GK-Ixo

 

[Jawmuncher]

I just want a new EBA, period.

EBA was so much fun.
You're the inspiration is so touching and the cover is better than Chicagos own version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_80O22OJRs

I'd want this guy with the Japanese Equivalent being the ALT

 

[Finale Fireworker]

It warms my heart to see so much EBA love, and all without somebody asserting that the Ouendan are better.

 

[Crocodile]

I think the leak did more harm than good. I wonder how many people disappointed with the roster (myself included), would not have been if we got proper reveals with some cool gameplay?

Pretty much. There's a very good reason companies what to have control about how information about their products is released because having that information packaged in a poor manner can hurt business. When I heard about Bowser Jr. I wasn't happy because I hated him in the Mario games. However, seeing his gameplay footage, he doesn't look that terrible. Put that in context of a proper trailer with good, clean footage AND showing off Koopaling alts at the same time? That could have easily changed my first impression. Ganondorf could have a sweet array of custom mvoes and Dark Pit could have a sweet array of alternate weapons at his disposal but because the first way these character are presented to us is as grainy CPU footage or just screenshots, our first impression will be less than favorable even if, going by the final product, they shouldn't be.

 

[The Bankslammer]

So this basically?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hzv94GK-Ixo

but that's a cool cool toon fighter!

 

[JoeInky]

Did you guys see this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_Hm2nLQIxw

That's a... really weird thing to do a comparison of.

 

[Ryce]

Hey guys, I found the Duck Hunt dog's proof of concept.

Edit: Spoilers for Kid Icarus: Uprising.

 

[Finale Fireworker]

That's a... really weird thing to do a comparison of.

I'm mobile and can't watch that video, could somebody give me a quick summary?

 

[Crocodile]

Hey guys, I found the Duck Hunt dog's proof of concept.

FYI to others, this is kind of a decently big Kid Icarus Uprising spoiler. Just in case people cared.

 

[liquidekkah]

What characters are you thinking that would be on your ideal roster that aren't retro but aren't "relevant"?

Well, going off we know right now:

-Pretty much anything from Rare games (I know why this is, but it doesn't make it any less annoying)
-GBA-era is largely ignored outside of Assist Trophies (Golden Sun, Advanced Wars, etc)
-I'm a little salty that Dark Samus is an AT, but I guess it's better than nothing.
-Paper Mario in general
-Wolf is apparently getting cut, because I guess Star Fox just doesn't cut it

And on a completely different note, Ganondorf is still Falcondorf. Dumb.

But just so I'm not being a big stink about things, I was pretty excited to see Bowser Jr. in the game. Sunshine is one of my favs, and I love the addition of the clown car.

 

[Luqi]

I'm mobile and can't watch that video, could somebody give me a quick summary?

Some Dude got frame by frame on each attack of veterans in sm4sh, brawl and melee and how fast they are to execute. Its kinda weird though cause it doesn't count landing lag, hit boxes, animation cancel etc

 

[Kyzon]

Yes please

Agents Are GO!!

This is what I'd want so much more than the Chorus Kids. Beats have so much style. They speak to me.

 

[Jawmuncher]

This is what I'd want so much more than the Chorus Kids. Beats have so much style. They speak to me.

I'll second this.

 

[Neiteio]

Hey guys, I found the Duck Hunt dog's proof of concept.

Edit: Spoilers for Kid Icarus: Uprising.

Alt confirmed

 

[Regulus Tera]

Hey guys, I found the Duck Hunt dog's proof of concept.

Edit: Spoilers for Kid Icarus: Uprising.

The music in that game is so good.

 

[ivysaur12]

This is what I'd want so much more than the Chorus Kids. Beats have so much style. They speak to me.

This would be so awesome.

 

[JoeInky]

I'm mobile and can't watch that video, could somebody give me a quick summary?

I couldn't watch it with sound but from what I saw, it was comparing the duration of certain moves.

Not the end lag, start up frames or anything massively useful like that, just how long the move is active.

Maybe because I don't have sound atm and because I closed the tab after 3 minutes I'm not getting something, but it seemed like a pointless video to me, I'm assuming it ends in a "See? Smash4 isn't slow because the attack duration is quick!" or something.

 

[Cse]

I think the leak did more harm than good. I wonder how many people disappointed with the roster (myself included), would not have been if we got proper reveals with some cool gameplay?

I somewhat agree, but honestly...this is the fault of Nintendo for not revealing any more information. This is a huge game. We're only 2 weeks away from release, and yet there is still quite a bit of information that we still don't know, even after the leak.

I can understand leaving 1-2 characters hidden. However, let's assume that the leaked roster is final, and that the leak never occurred - this means that there were 4 newcomers (as well as numerous veterans, including Dr. Mario) that they haven't even mentioned.

Chances are, we're not getting anything this week. Or in the early part of next week. So, had the leak not occurred, you're telling me that Nintendo was seriously under the impression that they could leave so much information hidden in the game a WEEK before release without some of it getting spoiled early? That's a naive mindset in this day and age.

There should have been a Direct two weeks ago to inform of us of 2-3 of the newcomers. Sakurai should have probably revealed a few more veterans by now as well. This still would have allowed them to leave 1-2 newcomers and a handful of veterans hidden.

Instead, they've been incredibly resistant to telling us anything.

 

[Hyperactivity]

What characters are you thinking that would be on your ideal roster that aren't retro but aren't "relevant"?

Isaac's the big one, Saki is sort of retro but he's an AT again, but Isa and Kachi fit the bill too

I guess the Advance Wars characters, Lyn if you're a fan of her