LegendofLex
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Because they already promised that their new system will have a unified system architecture with their consoles, and they're definitely not ready to finalize anything in that department.
Xenoblade announced for New 3DS
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Because they already promised that their new system will have a unified system architecture with their consoles, and they're definitely not ready to finalize anything in that department.
ElectricKaibutsu
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But you can play Xenoblade on the Wii U. And its sequel.
The answer is obvious from looking at the responses in this thread.
People are going to buy it anyways, so why put in any effort?
I don't really get what this has to do with the Wii U to be honest?
Have you seen the shitty framerate this port has? I really don't think this could have run on the OG 3DS.
You still get the better version of Xenoblade and the sequel on Wii U. You're practically bullshitting or concern trolling.
sixteen-bit
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Why is the frame rate so bad?
efyu_lemonardo
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Why make Kirby tilt & tumble if it requires new hardware? Why not just wait and make it for a handheld with gyros? Or WarioWare twisted?
Or DSiWare or those games that used the DSi camera whose name I forget? Those should have been launch titles for 3DS to fill out the lineup.
I could go on..
You're missing a very important point about Nintendo and handhelds. They experiment on the market constantly. They have to if they want to keep in touch with it. Releasing a single device every 5 years is too long a time interval to keep track of what people want.
1/ Nintendo has never pulled a stunt like that with home consoles (unlike their handhelds).
2/ You're seriously missing out by not getting a Wii U. You can get one for $200 (refurb from Nintendo) or 200 (from amazon.it).
What half steps are you even talking about? Cosmetic hardware revisions are not half steps. Nobody complained about the new PSP models, the new Vita, the 360 slim, the new PS3's and so on.
The only thing that's even close to this is the DSi, and while that was shitty too, even that didn't have a single worthwhile exclusive like this does.
DS games look like shit on 3DS so I'll pass on that idea.
Excellent post.
An iPhone 4S (released in the same year as the 3DS, btw) is still very much usable even three years later, and runs almost all of the new software coming out now as well as everything that came before it. That said, the leap in hardware power between it and the 5, which came out a mere one year later, is much larger than that of the 3DS and "NEW!" 3DS.
I thought it was widely acknowledged that Nintendo's next handheld/console effort was going to be a hybrid of the two.
This is just to fill up the time till it comes out.
Shadow Broker
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Edit: Found info to my questions in English.
Keep it breezy Gaf.
Keep it breezy Gaf.
Happened years ago with the DSi.
Probably because the game isn't done yet and Nintendo always shows actual development footage, no targets or bullshots. Yet some people either still don't know that or are quite forgetful, so we have this discussion pretty much every time Nintendo reveals anything.
As someone who's never had a Wii (and a chance to play this game) this was awesome news.
Then I saw the video.
This looks absolutely awful visually, and any interest I had in this has quickly vanished. Guess I'll wait till I get a PC good enough to run it on Dolphin. (Or if the Wii U ever gets an update that lets Wii games be played offscreen with the tablet controller.)
Then I saw the video.
This looks absolutely awful visually, and any interest I had in this has quickly vanished. Guess I'll wait till I get a PC good enough to run it on Dolphin. (Or if the Wii U ever gets an update that lets Wii games be played offscreen with the tablet controller.)
Yes, I'm sure the 3DS could run Xenoblade, they just didn't want to try because they didn't want to sell the game to the existing 45 mil (I think) user base.
If they start releasing a big amount of flagship titles exclusively on N3DS, yeah that sucks, this pretty much works as a new console, otherwise it's just an incentive for those who fork out the cash for new hardware at no detriment to the others.
As a Wii U and PS4 owner, no, I absolutely would not.
CaptainTiptop
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No bullshots? Didn't Mario Kart 8 screenshots have way more AA than the final game? Hmmm.
falconxcrunner09
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Why did the audio sound so distorted in the trailer?
As much as I loved Xenoblade, don't think I will get this.
As much as I loved Xenoblade, don't think I will get this.
I'm kind of impressed, I wouldn't have ever conceived Xenoblade-of all games- being ported to handheld. It's kind of hilarious and I wonder if I'm dreaming. Of course the graphical fidelity isn't completely up to par, but it certainly looks like the Wii original. I'm definitely picking this up if there's a trade-in offer for the n3DS.
The_Darkest_Red
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Same here. You'd think it was an easy question to answer but judging by this thread I guess not.
Benzychenz
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A Xenoblade special edition New 3DS XL would be so hype.
Name a peripheral that costs more than the actual console, if they're such similar situations.
Hypemaster
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Oh wow, quite impressive. Already have it for my Wii U but I'm happy Xenoblade is getting more exposure.
New 3DS will have better camera controls for MH4 though. Don't know how important that is.
Cartridge space probably. I remember the sound in Kid Icarus being really muffled even with headphones. Was a shame, too, considering how great that soundtrack was.
Link to anything Nintendo has ever shown with a framerate this bad?
Indeed, Xenoblade is one of the few titles I would allow audio quality sway decision to purchase. That soundtrack is just as much part of the experience as the gameplay itself.
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Deleted member 125677
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lol, why do you think?
This is madness..
Ok a couple of facts that some folk seem to be ignoring.
There would be no Xenoblade Chronicles on 3ds without the beefier CPU. If it were capable of running on the original 3DS, They would absolutely release it on it, it's what? 50 million customers versus 0 current customers of the "new" 3DS. They don't profit too much on hardware and saying that it would be a way to sell the new system is insane, this is a niche RPG. You can't magically get games running on weak hardware, it just doesn't happen. No amount of wishful thinking or strength of will can achieve that, there is not enough power period.
We still don't know how much more powerful this new CPU will be but 5% is an idiotic estimate. The poster who even said that claimed he was pulling the number out of his ass and that he was only saying a random number for argument's sake. It's sad how some people were taking this completely random guess by a random forum poster as fact
There is still plenty of time to optimize the code, this is an early build so things are rough, it's premature to complain about framerate and whatnot. It would be wise to wait for the final product to make a fair and educated judgement.
Also take into account youtube video compression and that crappy quality screenshot. Not to mention that handheld 3D games always look like shit in captured footage. Compare https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRlddPjcKUA to the game running on the actual hardware, it always looks much more jaggy in videos.
It's this or not having Xenoblade portable as an option at all. I understand the disappointment of people who already bought a 3ds but I don't think it's fair to say you'd rather have them not make this a reality.
Ok a couple of facts that some folk seem to be ignoring.
There would be no Xenoblade Chronicles on 3ds without the beefier CPU. If it were capable of running on the original 3DS, They would absolutely release it on it, it's what? 50 million customers versus 0 current customers of the "new" 3DS. They don't profit too much on hardware and saying that it would be a way to sell the new system is insane, this is a niche RPG. You can't magically get games running on weak hardware, it just doesn't happen. No amount of wishful thinking or strength of will can achieve that, there is not enough power period.
We still don't know how much more powerful this new CPU will be but 5% is an idiotic estimate. The poster who even said that claimed he was pulling the number out of his ass and that he was only saying a random number for argument's sake. It's sad how some people were taking this completely random guess by a random forum poster as fact
There is still plenty of time to optimize the code, this is an early build so things are rough, it's premature to complain about framerate and whatnot. It would be wise to wait for the final product to make a fair and educated judgement.
Also take into account youtube video compression and that crappy quality screenshot. Not to mention that handheld 3D games always look like shit in captured footage. Compare https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRlddPjcKUA to the game running on the actual hardware, it always looks much more jaggy in videos.
It's this or not having Xenoblade portable as an option at all. I understand the disappointment of people who already bought a 3ds but I don't think it's fair to say you'd rather have them not make this a reality.
Supermanisdead
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this will be mine. xenoblade is everything. 3rd best jrpg of all time.
The_Darkest_Red
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So are you going to find someone arguing this or do you just like jumping into threads and creating imaginary arguments?
shinobi602
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Definitely not. But I learned my lesson decades ago to wait on buying handhelds so this doesn't really surprise me at all. I'm glad I waited on a 3DS.
efyu_lemonardo
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Do you think this is related to the port/remaster that was rumored a while ago?
Starwolf_UK
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The ADX files on the disc were not super high quality to begin with and the OST did not really fix the issues with them (in some cases made it worse with 1 or 2 tracks not even reaching the first loop...sacrifices to fit onto 4 CDs). Some of the instruments are really quite muffled by their bitrate (could be issues with the samples themselves though, it is a modern music problem in general)
In terms of space. That it about 1 GB right these though. Single audio the game fits onto a DVD-5 which is a tad over the biggest 3DS cards so far (4.35 vs 4 GB). Lower quality textures should make it possible for the music to fit no problem.
Unless you mean speakers or something in which case you must have heard this system and so be from the future. Tell me the lotto numbers, monado boy.
The_Darkest_Red
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I don't regret buying my 3DS or 3DS XL for a second. Doesn't make this any less dumb, though.
The_Endgamer
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Well Nintendo has sold me on a New 3DS booyeah.