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[SixStringPsycho]

But that's dividing your customer base, especially big games like Xenoblade which has a lot of buzz. If more games get created under the new revision and are not backwards compatible with older 3DS, then how is that not a slap in the face.

If they labeled it a new handheld that's a different story, because it would explain why newer games built around the hardware wouldn't work on older 3DS.

No what they are doing like they did with the 2DS is creating another re-vision of essentially the same device minus a cpu bump, battery life, better 3D, and upgraded thumbstick, that will have specific games that only iy can play.

But yet they are still calling it a 3DS, how does that not piss people off who are buying the still available 3DS and 3DS XL?

Exactly. Thats why Im pissed off. Labeling this as a 3ds. And not a whole new handheld console. I think this is what Miyamoto meant with casuals and hardcore.

If we are hardcore enough we will buy The New 3DS.

If not, hey then youre just casual, so fuck you casual!

 

[PaperFlame]

This is hyping me more when the next handheld comes out for Nintendo.

Now we will definitely have two joy sticks, better 3D (I'm pretty sure they're keeping the 3D for the next system), and more trigger buttons.

I'm definitely buying this upgrade and selling my first 3DS for it because the screen is all scratched up.

 

[OmegaSmash]

Am I crazy to believe that Nintendo will push this as the "final" dual screen handheld of theirs, and then announce their next gen one as a completely different system without the double screen concept and BC for 3/DS games?

 

[todd360]

I usually always get the black model. That metallic blue is so good looking though. This is going to be a hard decision next year.

 

[Owari]

Of course it is.

3DS Homebrew is your only option.

Not a bad choice. I'll keep the XL for standard 3DS play and use the *new* 3DS as a Pokémon machine

 

[Kurdel]

Gameboy color was released 16 years ago, did they add extra buttons for that? Can't quite remember.

No, but exclusive Zelda GBC dungeon was tailored content to the new hardware.

 

[Mlatador]

Why not? It would be a nice feature if it could function as a gamepad. If your regular gamepad breaks and you have to send it to Nintendo, you have a backup waiting. Also, it could have a better range or even offer remote play like functions and enable to play your WiiU over Wifi.

It would be a useless feature nobody is asking for.

 

[Papacheeks]

Exactly. Thats why Im pissed off. Labeling this as a 3ds. And not a whole new handheld console. I think this is what Miyamoto meant with casuals and hardcore.

If we are hardcore enough we will buy The New 3DS.

If not, hey then youre just casual, so fuck you casual!

I mean are they going to completely phase out the 2DS and current 3DS that are out?

If not then this is a bad idea.

 

[MattyG]

Only way I'll get this is if there is an exclusive Zelda on it.

Spoiler

There's going to be an exclusive Zelda on it, isn't there?

 

[ZeroMaverick]

Okay!
Listen.
Please.

There's no branding issue here, fellow GAF people. The Wii to Wii U was a branding issue because the Wii U is a new console. The N3DS isn't a new console. DSi and Gameboy Color weren't branding issues. It's very clear that this "argument" is being used improperly. It's not a branding issue because it's the same console that has extra features and plays games that use those features. Just like the GBC and DSi.

Y y'all trippin'?

 

[Fess]

Definitely day 1 when the new XL is available for the west. My only complaint is that it seems to have the same screen scratching design as the earlier ones. Oh well I'll mod it with rubber knobs at the upper left/right corner as usual.

 

[zruben]

It would be a useless feature nobody is asking for.

you must be new here.

 

[comedy bomb]

This announcement probably means that Nintendo's next portable is going to be a 'third pillar' like the DS was.

I can't see anyone thinking a hardware revision will keep the 3DS selling into well enough into 2017-2018 that they would delay a 2016 launch of new hardware.

Does this bode well for those rumors of console/portable hybrids? Having that package ready for Christmas 2016 (with games) would be pretty bold for Nintendo.

I don't see how Nintendo can support the 3DS, New 3DS, Wii U, QOL, and whatever next handheld and console they have in the works.

 

[javie3d]

bigger than the original 3ds? pass.

when is the 3ds lite coming out?

 

[Doombear]

I photoshopped all the plates onto the white and black N3DSs if anyone cares to look at them with one or the other.

 

[StormKing]

Okay!
Listen.
Please.

There's no branding issue here, fellow GAF people. The Wii to Wii U was a branding issue because the Wii U is a new console. The N3DS isn't a new console. DSi and Gameboy Color weren't branding issues. It's very clear that this "argument" is being used improperly. It's not a branding issue because it's the same console that has extra features and plays games that use those features. Just like the GBC and DSi.

Y y'all trippin'?

I think the main issue is the exclusive software. What if someone gets confused and buys Xenoblade for their Old 3DS?

 

[Chindogg]

Did anyone ever consider the CPU boost and extra buttons could be to expand VC capabilities?

I mean everyone bitched about the lack of SNES, GBA, and N64 VC didn't they?

 

[braves01]

I mean are they going to completely phase out the 2DS and current 3DS that are out?

If not then this is a bad idea.

I bet they keep making the 2DS as a value sku, but I'd be surprised if they kept producing the old 3ds and XLs.

 

[Rich!]

bigger than the original 3ds? pass.

when is the 3ds lite coming out?

Likely never. This is it.

 

[Mlatador]

This announcement probably means that Nintendo's next portable is going to be a 'third pillar' like the DS was.

I can't see anyone thinking a hardware revision will keep the 3DS selling into well enough into 2017-2018 that they would delay a 2016 launch of new hardware.

I like to speculate. My prediction is: E3 2016 the successor to the 3DS is announced. Release Holodays 2016 in Japan/Early 2017 in Europe.

The New 3DS line will be good enough until then.

 

[random25]

Okay!
Listen.
Please.

There's no branding issue here, fellow GAF people. The Wii to Wii U was a branding issue because the Wii U is a new console. The N3DS isn't a new console. DSi and Gameboy Color weren't branding issues. It's very clear that this "argument" is being used improperly. It's not a branding issue because it's the same console that has extra features and plays games that use those features. Just like the GBC and DSi.

Y y'all trippin'?

I really wonder how GAF reacted when DSi was announced. Or when GBA SP was announced? Or when PSPGo was announced?

 

[Easy_D]

I'm glad that Nintendo is realizing how much more slick their whole DS Lite motif looked compared to that 3DS/3DS XL shit. The New 3DS looks so much nicer and cleaner aesthetically.

Yep, the XL for me was the lesser of two evils, the New 3DS is pretty damn sexy.

 

[ArchedThunder]

Am I crazy to believe that Nintendo will push this as the "final" dual screen handheld of theirs, and then announce their next gen one as a completely different system without the double screen concept and BC for 3/DS games?

That's probably what they'll do, they just wanted to release the final "perfect" 3DS first that developers could still release big games on after their next handheld launched.

 

[leroidys]

Gameboy color was released 16 years ago, did they add extra buttons for that? Can't quite remember.

Gameboy pocket was 18 years ago (ok so I exaggerated by two years.)

It's not really extra buttons though, is it? It adds the same buttons that are on the CPP, which is ugly as hell of course, but it's not extra functionality that the owners of the original models can't access.

I think the main issue is the exclusive software. What if someone gets confused and buys Xenoblade for their Old 3DS?

This is a legit concern. They should release physical online only, and otherwise just have the New 3DS games be DD, and just filter out the OG 3DS that way.

 

[Sendou]

I think the main issue is the exclusive software. What if someone gets confused and buys Xenoblade for their Old 3DS?

What if someone buys a 3DS game for their DS? Nothing really. They probably attempt to return it. Except huge stickers on the game boxes will probably warn about this.

 

[ZeroMaverick]

I think the main issue is the exclusive software. What if someone gets confused and buys Xenoblade for their Old 3DS?

So adding the word "color" or the letter "i" is less confusing? Of course it's confusing, but it has pretty much always been this way, and consumers have got along just fine.

 

[Chaos17]

I photoshopped all the plates onto the white and black N3DSs if anyone cares to look at them with one or the other.

Isabelleeeee~

 

[ArchedThunder]

I mean are they going to completely phase out the 2DS and current 3DS that are out?

If not then this is a bad idea.

They will keep the 2DS as a budget option and completely phase out the OG and XL.

 

[Crimsonclaw111]

Looks like I'll be buying a new XL, transferring my crap, then selling my old one for ~$100 or something.

 

[A Serious Man]

Nintendo is just the worst at naming hardware.

 

[Muskieratboi]

This just solved every niggling issue I ever had with the 3DS in one fell swoop.

GJ, Nintendo!

 

[Parfait]

Well this fucking sucks, I just got a 3dsXL this year. Kind of pisses me off but I guess I should have expected this from Nintendo.

 

[BondFancy]

Any idea of the price in USD? Been wanting to grab one for awhile now...probably will bite soon as it comes out if the price is right.

 

[Mlatador]

I think the main issue is the exclusive software. What if someone gets confused and buys Xenoblade for their Old 3DS?

I'm pretty sure there will be a hint saying: "this software only works on the New 3DS".

 

[SixStringPsycho]

I mean are they going to completely phase out the 2DS and current 3DS that are out?

If not then this is a bad idea.

Theyre not going to phase out on it, the regular 3ds is still selling like hot cakes. Whats a bad move here is marketing this as a new 3ds which currently plays the games that are released. But dince this new 3ds has a better cpu. One extra circle pad and 2 extra shoulder buttons. We will ser games that cannot be played on our older 3ds. Like the new xenoblade. Its a big fuck you to current owners. And xenoblade wont be the last of it. They wont release this console just to have it collecting dust in retailers and not sell.
Theyre going to market this as a must to play new games. Since new games will take advantage of the new cpu and buttons. Like for example, with the n64 expansion pack. Sure some games could be played without it, but it ran like shit.

 

[ZeroMaverick]

Any idea of the price in USD? Been wanting to grab one for awhile now...probably will bite soon as it comes out if the price is right.

The yen to dollar exchange made the New XL $180, so I'm guessing the prices will either stay the same or even be lowered a little.

 

[efyu_lemonardo]

Did anyone ever consider the CPU boost and extra buttons could be to expand VC capabilities?

I mean everyone bitched about the lack of SNES, GBA, and N64 VC didn't they?

It's not just that, it will allow for better integration with existing services like miiverse, perhaps also enabling Nintendo to catch up on whatever was missing in order for them to a have the proper device independent account system people say is not complete yet. as well as potentially other things.

In short, I think it allows them to start deploying the infrastructure they're going to need with their next generation of devices.

 

[Shauni]

I had to.

I always thought that the Gameboy could play Gameboy Color titles? Am I mistaken there? I only a GBC, but I was always under that impression.

 

[BondFancy]

The yen to dollar exchange made the New XL $180, so I'm guessing the prices will either stay the same or even be lowered a little.

Awesome that seems like a very fair price! Thanks!

 

[bumpkin]

Hmm... So the regular New 3DS' screens are going to be larger than the existing regular 3DS' screens?

I really dig the Super NES (Fami) colored buttons on the regular sized one, not so hot on the XL's uniformity with only colorized labels.

 

[SmokyDave]

I like to speculate. My prediction is: E3 2016 the successor to the 3DS is announced. Release Holodays 2016 in Japan/Early 2017 in Europe.

The New 3DS line will be good enough until then.

It shouldn't be good enough now, let alone for another two and a half years.

 

[brett2]

Nintendo, one of the world's greatest brands, somehow has developed a massive branding problem. Nintendo continues to confuse the hell out of potential customers with constant revisions and confusing naming conventions. The biggest culprit is the Wii U of course but even the 2DS is confusing for customers and now these new 3DS versions will further exacerbate the problem.

3DS sales have started to fall off this year and Nintendo isn't ready to release a brand new platform anytime soon so I understand from a business perspective that this is a stopgap measure. I wouldn't mind it if #1 the branding was clear and #2 all games worked on any 3DS model.

 

[SliceSabre]

I like the revision however I'm not quite down with the name. It is honestly confusing for consumers. There's a part of me that wishes Nintendo had called them the Super 3DS and Super 3DS XL instead of simply 'new'.

 

[clarkision]

Did anyone ever consider the CPU boost and extra buttons could be to expand VC capabilities?

I mean everyone bitched about the lack of SNES, GBA, and N64 VC didn't they?

That's what I was saying! I mean... Look at the buttons! That screams SNES VC!

 

[ndawgdrake]

"Pulled this shit"? The fuck are you talking about? It's a stopgap slightly spec and feature bumped handheld - just like the GBC and DSi before it. If you don't like it, just keep buying games on the 3DS. The fuck?

Just because Nintendo had similar business decisions in the past, doesn't make this one any less shitty.

"New" 3DS is a quarter-way successor to the current 3DS. Primarily due to having exclusive games not available to the current 60m+ 3DS owners.

Did I mention the 3DS is only slightly over 3 years old?

 

[ArchedThunder]

Theyre not going to phase out on it, the regular 3ds is still selling like hot cakes. Whats a bad move here is marketing this as a new 3ds which currently plays the games that are released. But dince this new 3ds has a better cpu. One extra circle pad and 2 extra shoulder buttons. We will ser games that cannot be played on our older 3ds. Like the new xenoblade. Its a big fuck you to current owners. And xenoblade wont be the last of it. They wont release this console just to have it collecting dust in retailers and not sell.
Theyre going to market this as a must to play new games. Since new games will take advantage of the new cpu and buttons. Like for example, with the n64 expansion pack. Sure some games could be played without it, but it ran like shit.

You realise the New 3DSs are the same price as the old ones, right? They are going to phase out the old models.

 

[Eusis]

I'd like to see the tech specs relative to the 3DS, because I have to imagine some of this complaining about not getting Xenoblade or being cut out in general is going to look really damn stupid depending on how big the upgrade is. Especially since, while short by console standards, it took longer than most phone upgrades.

Granted, I do prefer the stability of not needing upgrades every so often, and this does look as if it could be a GBC that's more of a stop gap (especially with the resolution saying the same rather than quadrupled or anything) than a proper new handheld, but with how fast phone specs have been improving I can imagine Nintendo getting a fairly crazy upgrade in power now, especially without any of it being used on a higher resolution.

 

[SixStringPsycho]

I always thought that the Gameboy could play Gameboy Color titles? Am I mistaken there? I only a GBC, but I was always under that impression.

Some could be played. Butit had some extras if you played it on gameboy color. Then came the tren that it could on be played on gameboy color. Its like telling us little by little to buy the new hardware. Since the one we own is obsolete.

 

[Dragon Puncher]

Damn, the white one with famicon buttons is pure sex.

 

[leroidys]

I always thought that the Gameboy could play Gameboy Color titles? Am I mistaken there? I only a GBC, but I was always under that impression.

No, it can't. There were a couple titles that were cross platform though, like links awakening dx, all of which were a black cart.