Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 14: Snake... had a hard life

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For the record, I want to say I'm not giving up hope on Ice climbers any time soon, and you guys make me feel really really sad for taking it as a fact that they're cut. :/

I hope they're in so I can rub it in your faces. :(
 
The alternative should have been incongruous rosters between the two versions.

Instead, Sakurai basically made the decision to equalize the rosters so the 3DS version wouldn't seem inferior, yet he apparently wasn't bothered by the fact that he would be holding back the Wii U version in the process.

Blame this on Sakurai, not on the limitations of the 3DS.
 
Maybe, and he removed transformations, so...

Transformations were removed because the HD models on the Wii U took too long to load.

He hasn't said this but this is identifiably a problem. It was already pushing it in Brawl. He even said on the Dojo not to idly cycle your character's colors while your friends are selecting so the game has time to load your character.

If it was that bad with Brawl's SD models, and it did take a LONG time to change into Sheik or switch Pokémon, it would have only been worse on the Wii U.

This ironically would not have been a problem on the 3DS. Wii U holding 3DS back confirmed.
 
Oh I see. I was thinking this went way back in the earlier threads when characters like Medusa, alt costumes and other miscellaneous were claimed for.

If someone did they were REALLY wanting some half naked men bad since the beginning lol.
Never noticed a avatar request while lurking but I did see a few people mention they wanted that as a ALT though. Everyone jumped on that as a avatar when he said he was making it one.
 
I would not really ever believe ICs would be cut for any other reason than 3DS couldn't handle them (and I still think the 3DS can), so if they truly are gone forever I'm actually going to not be okay with that. I'll still play and enjoy it, but goddamn if I won't be spiteful.
 
Any Shulk Smash Bros wallpapers yet? My hype has slowly been growing throughout the day. I think this is the next step to get beyond my Lucas grief.
 
I cant help but be bitter at the 3DS version
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For whoever called em first.
does anyone have the list? I called ashley and fox but i dont remembe if I called shulk
 
For the record, I want to say I'm not giving up hope on Ice climbers any time soon, and you guys make me feel really really sad for taking it as a fact that they're cut. :/

I hope they're in so I can rub it in your faces. :(
I hope they are in. But I will probably too busy playing the Wii U version to be face rubbed :P
 
Transformations were removed because the HD models on the Wii U took too long to load.

He hasn't said this but this is identifiably a problem. It was already pushing it in Brawl. He even said on the Dojo not to idly cycle your character's colors while your friends are selecting so the game has time to load your character.

If it was that bad with Brawl's SD models, and it did take a LONG time to change into Sheik or switch Pokémon, it would have only been worse on the Wii U.

This ironically would not have been a problem on the 3DS. Wii U holding 3DS back confirmed.

But Wii U is more powerful than Wii, which was essentially Gamecube hardware. I don't understand what you're trying to say.
 
so, dunno if someone knows, but is the PAX build any different from the E3 one? anything worth mentioning yet? thread moves way too fast lol
 
The target thing over the Bonkers head tells me this is a special kind of enemy. I also heard that Kraid, a Kremling boss (Possibly Krusha or Klubba) and the Grim Reaper boss are some of them.

The target thing can show up for any enemy when the event "Hunt down X!" happens, though. It's possible that Bonkers is a special boss, but that wouldn't be the indicator of it.
 
For the record, I want to say I'm not giving up hope on Ice climbers any time soon, and you guys make me feel really really sad for taking it as a fact that they're cut. :/

I hope they're in so I can rub it in your faces. :(
Oh believe me, I wont believe that the IC are gone until I have both versions in my hands
 
so, dunno if someone knows, but is the PAX build any different from the E3 one? anything worth mentioning yet? thread moves way too fast lol

Build for the public is the same as E3. Allegedly the build for the press is either new or final (on 3DS).

No word on anything from the press now - they may be playing it/looking at it right now, but no one is reporting on it. They may be under NDA.
 
Except he straight up said this was the problem in an interview over a year ago.

m.ign.com/articles/2013/06/13/smash-bros-wii-u-3ds-might-not-release-at-the-same-time

Ice Climbers are the sole representative of a series in Smash, have been in the last two games and are relatively popular with the competitive community and less so with the casual community.

I think it's ridiculous that, if they are cut, it could be for any other reason than the 3DS' limitations, he wouldn't just cut an entire Nintendo franchise out of smash for shits and giggles.

I am not even sure why people are so sure that the IC weren't cut because of the 3DS version. The console is capable of some neat things, but it's not some powerhouse. Actually, I wouldn't blame anyone for calling it underpowered. The fact that Nintendo is releasing a revision with upgraded specs is them basically saying that they want the 3DS to live a little longer, and that at it's current specs it might not be sufficient for all the games they want to make. This isn't a Wii U situation, those HD consoles are getting to the point where all types of games can be played on them without sacrificing much.

Sakurai has already said that compromises might be made in order to keep both versions as close as possible. I have nothing against the 3DS, and I by my own games and consoles, so I'm not in on this childish "blahblahblah superior version blahblahblah" nonsense. But it seems clear to me that hardware capabilities is a huge possibility as to why the IC are MIA. With 30fps Assist Trophies and Pokeball Pokemon, it's not too farfetched that some cutbacks would be made.
 
Hurry up nintendo media thing, leak more info.

Lol you know it's not like the roundtable, right? The press is just going to be playing a newer build is all. I doubt we'll get much new from it, unless the NDA they have is really lenient about things.
 
The main problem is the parity thing.

The 3DS version does have a right to exist, certain people will fucking love being able to play smash on the go.

But having to make the two rosters exactly the same when you have one system with much greater capabilities is just another ridiculous Sakurai idea up there with "For the game to be competitive I'd have to add complicated inputs"
 
So wait, are we expecting some news about a new/final build today or something?

If so, hoping for some good news about landing lag and kill percents/survival rate.
 
We have no idea yet. I still have some hope. Hopefully they weren't in the game early in development and then cut like the Ice Climbers were

Honestly, if Sakurai didn't think to just use Marshal instead of the Chorus Kids, it will inspire me to believe that there exists a kind of counter-balance in him

For every cool thing he does (Bowser Jr., Shulk, Robin, Little Mac), he shows that he really doesn't know how to get around certain design issues (Ridley, Ice Climbers, Chorus Kids).
 
DLC is our best hope for them.

At least the roster is still awesome, it just sucks to see characters with such a unique gimmick concept get cut.
 
So wait, are we expecting some news about a new/final build today or something?

If so, hoping for some good news about landing lag and kill percents/survival rate.

For what it's worth, the trailers we had recently which are assumingly the final build don't seem to be that much different from the demo build.

Though with the survival stuff it is hard to tell due to them not showing the bottom screen where the percentages are.
 
The Avatar List

I've started this from the beginning, if you need to see the list. Just call for me. Although I don't have things updated on who is using what now, but I do have the original people who asked for them.

You've been cut like sakurai cut the ice climbers.

That hurts, it really does.

My bad I knew someone else had it but the name wasn't coming to mind.
Shall remember now.

;_; I hope so.
 
Lol you know it's not like the roundtable, right? The press is just going to be playing a newer build is all. I doubt we'll get much new from it, unless the NDA they have is really lenient about things.

Correct, but if there are playable newcomers/veterans not yet announced, or stuff like 'bosses in smash run', I want that stuff leaked!

I'll settle for impressions for playable characters not in the E3 build, or confirmation of starting roster.
 
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