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[Golnei]

Once you get over the learning curve with the controls, it's fairly easy to beat. Just demands a lot of concentration. I started on 3.0 intensity at the beginning and pretty soon I cranked myself up to 7.0 for all the missions. Still can't really handle 9.0 intensity, but eh. Anyways, if you're having trouble, the game'll knock down the intensity/difficulty every time you die or you can just set it low yourself before the stage begins.

I'm fairly certain the NES game didn't have an intensity slider.

 

[Zero173]

Its learning curve is actually very weird. The game arguably becomes easier later in the game, and it's probably due to the fact that a lot of people have troubles with learning the damage output of enemies while also dealing with a rising death-pit.

This actually makes me feel more determined to get back to it. Thanks!

Once you get over the learning curve with the controls, it's fairly easy to beat. Just demands a lot of concentration. I started on 3.0 intensity at the beginning and pretty soon I cranked myself up to 7.0 for all the missions. Still can't really handle 9.0 intensity, but eh. Anyways, if you're having trouble, the game'll knock down the intensity/difficulty every time you die or you can just set it low yourself before the stage begins.

Sorry, I wasn't very clear. I was referring to the original Kid Icarus. But your info will not go to waste! I do plan to obtain the new Kid Icarus at some point. Thanks though!

 

[Moonlight]

I'm fairly certain the NES game didn't have an intensity slider.

:lol

It's what I get for not paying attention to the context.

 

[Professor Beef]

If the online is halfway decent it's going to be a game changer; a true online Smash community would be a fucking dream come true.

Well it's their first time implementing online in Smash, so here's hoping they don't mess it up.

 

[OricWindstar]

Well it's their first time implementing online in Smash, so here's hoping they don't mess it up.

Well Brawl had online...when it decided to work.

 

[Zero173]

Well it's their first time implementing online in Smash, so here's hoping they don't mess it up.

Haha, denial is funny. I too wish that Brawl's online mode wasn't an afterthought.

Also, is Professor Beef somehow related to Commander Beef from the Megaman anime? Just curious.

 

[SuperSah]

Well it's their first time implementing online in Smash, so here's hoping they don't mess it up.

So far, they appear to be doing alright. Fingers crossed, as 3DS and Wii U are both capable of good online experiences.

All we need now is communities.

 

[Benzychenz]

So is it the general consensus that Kid Icarus is a pretty tough game? I'd like to believe that I can at least be mediocre at every genre...I don't want to accept that

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I suck D:

I didn't have too much trouble with the 3D Classics version. I hear that it fixed some odd jumping physics that the NES game had.

 

[Professor Beef]

Haha, denial is funny. I too wish that Brawl's online mode wasn't an afterthought.

Also, is Professor Beef somehow related to Commander Beef from the Megaman anime? Just curious.

I don't watch anime.

 

[Astarte]

Pax leaker on 4chan admitted he was lying.

Without a tripcode, that doesn't mean anything. I can post as that guy and no one could tell the difference

 

[Zero173]

I don't watch anime.

...

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okay then

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[Ceravic]

Without a tripcode, that doesn't mean anything. I can post as that guy and no one could tell the difference

Ok, here ya go. http://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/260805043#p260816602

 

[Cosmic Dreams]

Are we seriously discussing bad stages without even mentioning this atrocity?

ugh

 

[JoeInky]

Ok, here ya go. http://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/260805043#p260816602

That's not a tripcode, that's just a name and anyone could post there and use the same one.

 

[Gonzo The Great]

Is anybody else worried that the soundtrack is going to be quantity over quality like how it was in Brawl? Overall, Melee is the better sounding game. Don't deny it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pz3BQFXjEOI

 

[Man God]

Brawl has a way better soundtrack.

 

[Ceravic]

That's not a tripcode, that's just a name and anyone could post there and use the same one.

Guess I'm not familiar enough with 4chan then.

 

[Dimitri LH]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pz3BQFXjEOI

I want this song and stage (or both) back.

 

[Benzychenz]

Looking at the stage selection so far I'm liking that we don't really have any gimmick stages (outside of maybe Pac Land which we haven't seen a whole lot of).

Palutena's Temple looks good for a giant stage, looks closer to Temple (GOAT Smash stage) in that it has larger areas you can actually fight on rather than the mess that was New Pork City.

Hopefully the unlockable stages aren't crap like how Brawl threw 75m, Mario Bros and Hanenbow at us lol.

 

[Mik317]

Melee is better at everything because reasons.

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I fucking love Melee but yo damn does this sentiment of it doing no wrong begins to grind my gears something fierce

 

[AlphaDragoon]

Roy is just...what characterization? I mean to say that he is the definition of bland and is thus constantly rated to be one of the worst lords, if not the worst lord in all of FE. Also in the game he's almost completely useless as a fighter and he's a liability.

That's pretty much all there is to it...he's pretty much got nothing except a cool family.

I liked Roy personally, and don't get people saying he was bad in-game. My Roy wrecked the shit out of people when I played through FE6.

 

[A Link to the Past]

So what would everyone think if this was the DLC

Isabelle
Ridley
Chorus Kids
Impa
Dixie Kong
Mewtwo
Lucas
Wolf
Ice Climbers
Great Tiger

 

[Cody_D165]

Melee's soundtrack is great and all, but Brawl's blew it out of the water. For as much hate as Brawl gets, if there's one thing it did right, it's the music.

 

[A Link to the Past]

Melee's soundtrack is great and all, but Brawl's blew it out of the water. For as much hate as Brawl gets, if there's one thing it did right, it's the music.

I think that the greatness of the OST was offset by a lot of the songs not feeling appropriate for the stage they were in.

 

[Benzychenz]

So what would everyone think if this was the DLC

Isabelle
Ridley
Chorus Kids
Impa
Dixie Kong
Mewtwo
Lucas
Wolf
Ice Climbers
Great Tiger

Why Great Tiger? King Hippo or someone would be better imo.

Other than that replace Ridley with Paper Mario and it's perfect.

 

[Golnei]

It was a shame that the larger size of Brawl's soundtrack didn't allow anywhere near as much of it to be orchestrated when compared to Melee. I don't see that changing for 4, but at least we can expect the samples used to be of generally higher quality.

 

[thefreecheese]

Why Great Tiger? King Hippo or someone would be better imo.

Other than that replace Ridley with Paper Mario and it's perfect.

I'm with you on King Hippo but the only replacement I would do is swap Isabelle for Simon Belmont. I can't imagine her playing too differently from Villager and it's about time someone did something with Castlevania. Konami sure as hell isn't. I feel like he would be much more versatile and would gladly pay triple the asking price for his inclusion.

 

[Mr. Smiley]

Comparing Melee's and Brawl's soundtracks are about even to me. Brawl had some really good original tracks that I need to hear while playing, mixed in with alot of okay or reused tracks (some of which were also good). While Melee crafted great tracks all around, mostly orchestrated which is a genre I can't get enough of.

 

[BGBW]

Secondary Punch-Out rep should either be Glass Joe for a humorous joke character or Bald Bull or Sandman for a more serious character as they've appeared in four out of the five Punch-Out titles, including the first. Super Macho Man has also appeared in four but his first appearance was in the second title, Super Punch-Out in the arcades.

I wonder if they'll ever make a new Punch-Out and if they did would they give it the Super prefix to continue the pattern.

 

[Vampirolol]

Melee is better at everything because reasons.

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I fucking love Melee but yo damn does this sentiment of it doing no wrong begins to grind my gears something fierce

Pretty much.

 

[legendaryskitch]

If we're talking secondary Punch-Out! characters, it's Mike Tyson or nothing. I love Punch-Out! but I don't really think anyone else is important or legendary enough. Maybe King Hippo as a boss

 

[A Link to the Past]

My rationale with respect to Great Tiger versus King Hippo is that King Hippo would conceptually have a lot of similarities with Little Mac - strong on ground, poor in the air. Great Tiger meanwhile would have an awesome air game, could teleport, create after-images of himself, have elemental punches, hover in the air, etc. If we're looking for the Punch-Out!! character that would be the most interesting, Great Tiger is the only correct answer, and nothing else comes even remotely close.

 

[KelpPlankton]

King Hippo as a really big, slow, hard-hitting Mac clone would be a lot of fun. Little Mac is quick on his feet and can traverse the arena quickly to take advantage of openings in his opponents, but King Hippo with the same moveset would be slow, lumbering, and need his opponents to come to him.

It would invert the playstyle entirely, even if he played similarly. I think he'd be a worthwhile addition to the roster in a future game or as DLC.

Plus he looks amazing in his rematch outfit.

 

[munchie64]

I gonna lol if the game comes out and Ash tells us that they showed the Pax guys nothing more than what the leak already told us.

 

[A Link to the Past]

If we're talking about complete inversion, Great Tiger does it way better. King Hippo, all he brings to the table is a heavyweight-style boxer with slower attacks. Great Tiger would be a tall character - which I'd call rarer than a heavy character - and he would run contrary to Little Mac's typically normal moveset by having a completely out-there moveset. Sakurai values unique fighters a lot, and I think if he was going to include anyone, it would either be a Little Mac clone or someone like Great Tiger who covers the more absurd elements of the Punch-Out!! series.

 

[KelpPlankton]

I gonna lol if the game comes out and Ash tells us that they showed the Pax guys nothing more than what the leak already told us.

Even if they did that, they probably gave some in-depth details on the characters we know nothing about right now. I'm sure there's a lot to learn that they showed there even if we knew the characters were in already.

 

[OricWindstar]

King Hippo is who they would choose, but Disco Kid is who I want. For the taunts.

 

[Cosmic Dreams]

I gonna lol if the game comes out and Ash tells us that they showed the Pax guys nothing more than what the leak already told us.

that could be a possibility.

if anything, i'd like to see if they discussed anything relating to DLC in the franchise's future.

 

[BGBW]

Some people still complain that Miis are Smash originals are than reference characters.

Well one compromise could be to give Mii Swordfighters and Mii Brawlers Wii Sports based costumes:

Don't ask about Mii Gunners.

 

[A Link to the Past]

Nintendo Land - Metroid Blast. There, that's your reference. :>

 

[Poyunch]

King Hippo as a really big, slow, hard-hitting Mac clone would be a lot of fun. Little Mac is quick on his feet and can traverse the arena quickly to take advantage of openings in his opponents, but King Hippo with the same moveset would be slow, lumbering, and need his opponents to come to him.

It would invert the playstyle entirely, even if he played similarly. I think he'd be a worthwhile addition to the roster in a future game or as DLC.

Plus he looks amazing in his rematch outfit.

I like this idea.

 

[Cody_D165]

Anything that would get more Punch-Out content into Smash is A-OK in my book. It's one of Nintendo's more overlooked franchises, I feel.

Still can't wait to play Smash with Punch-Out music.

 

[StayDead]

Thinking that Lucina could turn into an alt (even though it will technically mean she is still in the game) makes me kind of sad.

She can't though, as like Falco her damage works completely differently.

 

[Golnei]

Some people still complain that Miis are Smash originals are than reference characters.

Well one compromise could be to give Mii Swordfighters and Mii Brawlers Wii Sports based costumes:

Don't ask about Mii Gunners.

Considering the amount of costume + weapon combinations they've made already, it'd really be missing an obvious opportunity to forgo those. Hopefully, there are Wiimote + Nunchuk, Zapper and Power Glove weapons available for the Mii movesets as well. Though I'm not sure what costumes would match them...

 

[OricWindstar]

Anything that would get more Punch-Out content into Smash is A-OK in my book. It's one of Nintendo's more overlooked franchises, I feel.

Still can't wait to play Smash with Punch-Out music.

Same! What's your most wanted tune?

 

[SuperSah]

How are you all gonna pass time with the final month?

College for me.

 

[Cody_D165]

Considering the amount of costume + weapon combinations they've made already, it'd really be missing an obvious opportunity to forgo those. Hopefully, there are Wiimote + Nunchuk, Zapper and Power Glove weapons available for the Mii movesets as well. Though I'm not sure what costumes would match them...

Sorry, the Zapper is reserved for

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Duck Hunt Dog

 

[BGBW]

Considering the amount of costume + weapon combinations they've made already, it'd really be missing an obvious opportunity to forgo those. Hopefully, there are Wiimote + Nunchuk, Zapper and Power Glove weapons available for the Mii movesets as well. Though I'm not sure what costumes would match those...

It may have been officially liscenced, but it's not a Nintendo product. Surprised people still think it is.

 

[Clefargle]

Guess I'm not familiar enough with 4chan then.

Lurk moar

 

[Benzychenz]

The problem with Great Tiger is it'd be like if they skipped over Rosalina and Bowser Jr and chucked in Petey Piranha for the sake of being 'unique'.