Is Mainstream Hatred Of Anime Growing?

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Please do. Here are my requirements:

- if it is a series, that it is short with no filler
- should not be built around fighting or combat
- should not contain robots
- should look good, with smooth animation rather than choppy stuff
- should treat women like human beings with dignity, equity, and rich inner lives and should ideally have female characters that are not merely love interests for male characters
- should engage with human, social, and political themes and preferably in a real rather than fantasy world
- should be targeted to adults
- character's eyes should be appropriately sized for their head
- if it has a theme song, the theme song should not overly earnest desperate generic Japanese pop
- should not be described as anyone ever as "badass"

- should not contain a young female character who is rude and abusive to everyone played for laughs
- should not contain a young female character that makes shrill, high pitched noises as a stand-in for actually expressing themselves with words
- should not contain soft focus shots where characters gaze longingly into each other's eyes
- should not contain that dumb blushing reaction where there's a sweat drop and the person screws up their eyes
- should not contain uguu or waifu or whatever other babble people use to express how they want to surround themselves with shrill excitable cute girls
- should not have extended details about how a male character is a pervert

- should be available legally for a reasonable price in North America, preferably dubbed. If it's subbed, the subtitles should be professional and localized, not merely translated

I've asked this before and got a few solid recommendations that I have enjoyed, but in almost every case people remind me that I'm really rubbing up major tropes and approaches used in Anime.

Edit: for example, without knowing anything about the shows, the summaries in the Anime of the Year 2014 results thread exclude most of those shows that made the cut. Not all, mind you.

What is this...it's almost like a list that was constructed intentionally to rule out anything anyone could possibly think of
 
Please do. Here are my requirements:

- if it is a series, that it is short with no filler
- should not be built around fighting or combat
- should not contain robots
- should look good, with smooth animation rather than choppy stuff
- should treat women like human beings with dignity, equity, and rich inner lives and should ideally have female characters that are not merely love interests for male characters
- should engage with human, social, and political themes and preferably in a real rather than fantasy world
- should be targeted to adults
- character's eyes should be appropriately sized for their head
- if it has a theme song, the theme song should not overly earnest desperate generic Japanese pop
- should not be described as anyone ever as "badass"

- should not contain a young female character who is rude and abusive to everyone played for laughs
- should not contain a young female character that makes shrill, high pitched noises as a stand-in for actually expressing themselves with words
- should not contain soft focus shots where characters gaze longingly into each other's eyes
- should not contain that dumb blushing reaction where there's a sweat drop and the person screws up their eyes
- should not contain uguu or waifu or whatever other babble people use to express how they want to surround themselves with shrill excitable cute girls
- should not have extended details about how a male character is a pervert

- should be available legally for a reasonable price in North America, preferably dubbed. If it's subbed, the subtitles should be professional and localized, not merely translated

I've asked this before and got a few solid recommendations that I have enjoyed, but in almost every case people remind me that I'm really rubbing up major tropes and approaches used in Anime.

Edit: for example, without knowing anything about the shows, the summaries in the Anime of the Year 2014 results thread exclude most of those shows that made the cut. Not all, mind you.

Samurai Champloo.
The dub is amazing.

Just read you post by the way. It's like you want to exclude things just to prove a point.
 
Shows do not need to have political themes, but I provide it in the list as a way of causing people to gravitate towards content that asks questions, that tells us something about humanity, etc. I am not interested in dating shows or high school shows as a rule, and I am not interested in fighting shows as a rule. I am not interested in long, drawn-out plots; I am interested in theme. This is something that is true of my taste in other mediums to a degree, including in gaming.

And yes, I really am not interested in giant robots. I've got the Iron Giant. I have my fill and don't need more.

Is it just a problem with giant robots in general, or is it specifically about shows where giant robots are the "stars"? Because something like the first two Patlabor films would fit nearly all your criteria, but the central conceit is that in the near future giant robots are widely used for policing and labor. Otherwise they're very grounded and deal with a number of social and political themes, but I'm not sure whether or not to recommend it if the presence of giant robots alone will disqualify something.
 
Please do. Here are my requirements:

- if it is a series, that it is short with no filler
- should not be built around fighting or combat
- should not contain robots
- should look good, with smooth animation rather than choppy stuff
- should treat women like human beings with dignity, equity, and rich inner lives and should ideally have female characters that are not merely love interests for male characters
- should engage with human, social, and political themes and preferably in a real rather than fantasy world
- should be targeted to adults
- character's eyes should be appropriately sized for their head
- if it has a theme song, the theme song should not overly earnest desperate generic Japanese pop
- should not be described as anyone ever as "badass"

- should not contain a young female character who is rude and abusive to everyone played for laughs
- should not contain a young female character that makes shrill, high pitched noises as a stand-in for actually expressing themselves with words
- should not contain soft focus shots where characters gaze longingly into each other's eyes
- should not contain that dumb blushing reaction where there's a sweat drop and the person screws up their eyes
- should not contain uguu or waifu or whatever other babble people use to express how they want to surround themselves with shrill excitable cute girls
- should not have extended details about how a male character is a pervert

- should be available legally for a reasonable price in North America, preferably dubbed. If it's subbed, the subtitles should be professional and localized, not merely translated

I've asked this before and got a few solid recommendations that I have enjoyed, but in almost every case people remind me that I'm really rubbing up major tropes and approaches used in Anime.

Edit: for example, without knowing anything about the shows, the summaries in the Anime of the Year 2014 results thread exclude most of those shows that made the cut. Not all, mind you.

Sounds to me like you're describing Fullmetal Alchemist, which is one of the most highly regarded anime and manga. It has a great cast of interesting and diverse characters and a very compelling story that touches on themes such as inequality, war, faith versus science and many more. The dub is also excellent and generally considered to be of the highest standard.

I'd suggest watching the manga-faithful Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood.
 
Sounds to me like you're describing Fullmetal Alchemist, which is one of the most highly regarded anime and manga. It has a very compelling story that touches up a lot of themes such inequality, war, faith versus science and many more. The dub is also excellent.

Winry + Sweat drops = Nope.
 
Sounds to me like you're describing Fullmetal Alchemist, which is one of the most highly regarded anime and manga. It has a very compelling story that touches up a lot of themes such inequality, war, faith versus science and many more. The dub is also excellent.


- should not be built around fighting or combat
- should look good, with smooth animation rather than choppy stuff
- should treat women like human beings with dignity, equity, and rich inner lives and should ideally have female characters that are not merely love interests for male characters
- should be targeted to adults
- if it has a theme song, the theme song should not overly earnest desperate generic Japanese pop
- should not be described as anyone ever as "badass"

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Wouldnt really say that FMA, considering its based on a Shounen-manga, is what stump is looking for.
 
Sounds to me like you're describing Fullmetal Alchemist, which is one of the most highly regarded anime and manga. It has a great cast of interesting and diverse characters and a very compelling story that touches on themes such as inequality, war, faith versus science and many more. The dub is also excellent and generally considered to be of the highest standard.

I'd suggest watching the manga-faithful Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood.

Combat-focused, the occasional gag, and the relationship between Ed and Winry.
 
Sounds to me like you're describing Fullmetal Alchemist, which is one of the most highly regarded anime and manga. It has a great cast of interesting and diverse characters and a very compelling story that touches on themes such as inequality, war, faith versus science and many more. The dub is also excellent and generally considered to be of the highest standard.

I'd suggest watching the manga-faithful Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood.

what, no he isn't.

- should not be built around fighting or combat
- character's eyes should be appropriately sized for their head
- should not be described as anyone ever as "badass"
- should not contain that dumb blushing reaction where there's a sweat drop and the person screws up their eyes
- should not have extended details about how a male character is a pervert
- should not contain a young female character who is rude and abusive to everyone played for laughs

We can also get into the deformed cutesy animation that happens whenever a comedic moment hits.
 
Seriously though, if you ignore the big eyes, short series (it has no filler though) and gaze longingly into eyes stipulations (which is honestly dumb because it cuts off so many romance shows and is a pretty big romance trope even outside of anime), watch Glass mask (2005 edition).

A story about a girl who is madly in love about acting, and it shows her bumpy journey from abject poverty to a well known actress. Explores obsession and the will to succeed, the character's own ability for method acting, realistic growth of acting techniques as the series goes on, the inner workings of the japanese theatre and TV industry, actual detailed depictions of the plays being acted out which is pretty well done (though IMO not as well done as in the manga), and also one of the best damn rivalries where the talent/hardworking dynamic is turned on its head.

Note that if you hate method acting and ad lib you might well disagree with the entire premise of the show, but still, give it watch. Not as good as the manga but it's a solid adaptation.

Also watch haibane renmei.
 
Please do. Here are my requirements:

- if it is a series, that it is short with no filler
- should not be built around fighting or combat
- should not contain robots
- should look good, with smooth animation rather than choppy stuff
- should treat women like human beings with dignity, equity, and rich inner lives and should ideally have female characters that are not merely love interests for male characters
- should engage with human, social, and political themes and preferably in a real rather than fantasy world
- should be targeted to adults
- character's eyes should be appropriately sized for their head
- if it has a theme song, the theme song should not overly earnest desperate generic Japanese pop
- should not be described as anyone ever as "badass"

- should not contain a young female character who is rude and abusive to everyone played for laughs
- should not contain a young female character that makes shrill, high pitched noises as a stand-in for actually expressing themselves with words
- should not contain soft focus shots where characters gaze longingly into each other's eyes
- should not contain that dumb blushing reaction where there's a sweat drop and the person screws up their eyes
- should not contain uguu or waifu or whatever other babble people use to express how they want to surround themselves with shrill excitable cute girls
- should not have extended details about how a male character is a pervert

- should be available legally for a reasonable price in North America, preferably dubbed. If it's subbed, the subtitles should be professional and localized, not merely translated

I've asked this before and got a few solid recommendations that I have enjoyed, but in almost every case people remind me that I'm really rubbing up major tropes and approaches used in Anime.

Edit: for example, without knowing anything about the shows, the summaries in the Anime of the Year 2014 results thread exclude most of those shows that made the cut. Not all, mind you.

I like this list, honestly. Generally what I look for too, even if every requirement isn't fulfilled.
 
Stump opened his mind once and people recommended Eden of the East (TV + Movies).

I think he's still traumatized by Akira's Johnny.
 
Please do. Here are my requirements:

- if it is a series, that it is short with no filler
- should not be built around fighting or combat
- should not contain robots
- should look good, with smooth animation rather than choppy stuff
- should treat women like human beings with dignity, equity, and rich inner lives and should ideally have female characters that are not merely love interests for male characters
- should engage with human, social, and political themes and preferably in a real rather than fantasy world
- should be targeted to adults
- character's eyes should be appropriately sized for their head
- if it has a theme song, the theme song should not overly earnest desperate generic Japanese pop
- should not be described as anyone ever as "badass"

- should not contain a young female character who is rude and abusive to everyone played for laughs
- should not contain a young female character that makes shrill, high pitched noises as a stand-in for actually expressing themselves with words
- should not contain soft focus shots where characters gaze longingly into each other's eyes
- should not contain that dumb blushing reaction where there's a sweat drop and the person screws up their eyes
- should not contain uguu or waifu or whatever other babble people use to express how they want to surround themselves with shrill excitable cute girls
- should not have extended details about how a male character is a pervert

- should be available legally for a reasonable price in North America, preferably dubbed. If it's subbed, the subtitles should be professional and localized, not merely translated

I've asked this before and got a few solid recommendations that I have enjoyed, but in almost every case people remind me that I'm really rubbing up major tropes and approaches used in Anime.

Edit: for example, without knowing anything about the shows, the summaries in the Anime of the Year 2014 results thread exclude most of those shows that made the cut. Not all, mind you.

movies aside, it's hard to find a tv show that 100% qualifies. I suggest checking out From the new world / shinsekai yori. It's one of the rare adult targeted recent tv shows and bombed because of it. It falters at the bolded and the beginning is slow but as a whole I think you'll be satisfied. It's sci-fi but a grounded one, it's a very humane story filled with social and political themes. I think it passes at everything else on that list, it's not ugly looking really.
<---- character design sample
 
RE: Recommendations; thanks to anyone who offered any. I wasn't just trolling, I will do followup to look into the shows mentioned. I do find it interesting that even in this set of replies, a number of people have pointed out how some of the recommendations already given clash pretty badly with what I was looking for, which is a problem that recommendations have more generally.

RE: Specifics
I'm not entirely wedded on a real world setting, but rather that it needs to be grounded. I'm not super interested in very fantasy-oriented stuff. Cowboy Bebop is fine (although I'd note that Cowboy Bebop is like item #1 on the list of "Anime that are good for people who even don't like anime"



Well, I mean, it's not a dealbreaker that every shot doesn't look pristine and movie-like; conventional television has the same budgetary challenges. Rather, I hoped to express that the animation quality of much of what I've seen is a barrier to me. The same is true with "western" cartoons as well; I don't generally like animated stuff unless the animation is very vibrant.



I was trying to state in a very general way my distaste for what seems like a major component of character design in anime. Ultimately I'm not saying I wouldn't watch a show that has a shot with large eyes, but rather that people offering recommendations shouldn't uncritically accept common elements of the medium of anime when trying to offer recommendations to me as a stand-in for people who generally don't watch much anime because it generally isn't something they're in to. I probably could have tried to elaborate a little more or maybe said "no chibi, no hyper-exaggerated character design", etc.



Sure, but since the Straw People aren't in the thread and I am I thought I'd take maybe 2-3 minutes to ballpark the things that bug me in response to the suggestion by the OP that there's tons of content out there to meet the requirements of skeptics. Many of the things I said I think reflect what the OP was trying to respond to; I'm sure lots of people wouldn't identify them as dealbreakers, but rather that they would contribute to an overall negative impression that people have. You see it in some of the other replies in this thread that share my general disillusionment, even if they don't identify it in the same terms.



Yeah, I'm very cognizant of that--I do think we've specifically discussed it before. I don't begrudge that the content is made in those conditions or to reflect that audience. I'm very live and let live, you won't find me going on the offensive about how crap everyone's taste is or whatever.

I just felt that the OP's suggestion that there's plenty of anime out there that doesn't reflect the things that bug people about anime was maybe a little broad. Not that the content doesn't exist, because I know it does and I've enjoyed much of what I've watched. But rather that it occupies a very small niche in an industry otherwise calibrated to produce a very specific type of content, and thus it should not be surprising that people out there exist who "don't enjoy anime" in very general terms.



Shows do not need to have political themes, but I provide it in the list as a way of causing people to gravitate towards content that asks questions, that tells us something about humanity, etc. I am not interested in dating shows or high school shows as a rule, and I am not interested in fighting shows as a rule. I am not interested in long, drawn-out plots; I am interested in theme. This is something that is true of my taste in other mediums to a degree, including in gaming.

And yes, I really am not interested in giant robots. I've got the Iron Giant. I have my fill and don't need more.

I don't think it really limits me, because I spend a lot of time reading, watching television and film, and playing games and I enjoy much of what I consume. It does limit my ability to engage with anime, which was the very point of my reply.



OK.

Planetes should work then as it is grounded in real science and possible future technology. but its more of a coming of age story for the characters involved.
 
what, no he isn't.

- should not be built around fighting or combat
- character's eyes should be appropriately sized for their head
- should not be described as anyone ever as "badass"
- should not contain that dumb blushing reaction where there's a sweat drop and the person screws up their eyes
- should not have extended details about how a male character is a pervert
- should not contain a young female character who is rude and abusive to everyone played for laughs

We can also get into the deformed cutesy animation that happens whenever a comedic moment hits.

- there's plenty of action, but that's not the focus
- aren't they?
- what?
- I'll give you that
- who's perverted?
- who would this be referr -
May Chang, fuck. OK.
 
Combat is there but there is also it engages with human, social, and political themes. Sue it does it in an fantasy theme

The blushing isn't that bad. (probably because I'm used to seeing alot worse)

There's a character being called a pervert? I don't ever recall that. ok now I remember

Nothing for the badass (because there is, well is an MMo with maxed out characters) and targeted at adults.
EDIT: forgot tropes.....

Log Horizon is not targeted at adults. I thought it was a pretty fun show at first (I am a sucker for the portal fantasy genre, even though most of it is terrible), but I think it is progressively getting worse thanks to the inclusion of all of the romance subplots. They are done terribly and extremely superficially and it seems that the only point of many of the female characters are either to obsess over the male characters or be fan service. It also feels like it is turning into a harem show.

As for badass, the main character is obviously supposed to be a badass. Not your typical I am going to break shit in an awesome manner badass, but I am going to be a devious strategist badass.

I am not sure what human and social themes it deals with either. If it does, it is done very superficially. As for political, well, it deals with politics in a medieval fantasy setting. Does not really apply, and still , very superficially.
 
Why would they do that?

I actually dug it up and it was Aeana and Mumei's fault, apparently. I thought it was AnimeGAF's doing but nope!

EDIT: There's very little true anime that's targeted to adults, if any. Cat Soup is the only one that immediately comes to mind because that shit can't possibly be for kids. I took it to mean that the story and narrative aren't blatantly appealing to a younger crowd. So, while Revolutionary Girl Utena isn't exactly for 30-somethings, it's not exactly pandering to teens and young adults either. It just kind of exists, free of labels.
Based Ikuhara.
 
Please do. Here are my requirements:

- if it is a series, that it is short with no filler
- should not be built around fighting or combat
- should not contain robots
- should look good, with smooth animation rather than choppy stuff
- should treat women like human beings with dignity, equity, and rich inner lives and should ideally have female characters that are not merely love interests for male characters
- should engage with human, social, and political themes and preferably in a real rather than fantasy world
- should be targeted to adults
- character's eyes should be appropriately sized for their head
- if it has a theme song, the theme song should not overly earnest desperate generic Japanese pop
- should not be described as anyone ever as "badass"

- should not contain a young female character who is rude and abusive to everyone played for laughs
- should not contain a young female character that makes shrill, high pitched noises as a stand-in for actually expressing themselves with words
- should not contain soft focus shots where characters gaze longingly into each other's eyes
- should not contain that dumb blushing reaction where there's a sweat drop and the person screws up their eyes
- should not contain uguu or waifu or whatever other babble people use to express how they want to surround themselves with shrill excitable cute girls
- should not have extended details about how a male character is a pervert

- should be available legally for a reasonable price in North America, preferably dubbed. If it's subbed, the subtitles should be professional and localized, not merely translated

I've asked this before and got a few solid recommendations that I have enjoyed, but in almost every case people remind me that I'm really rubbing up major tropes and approaches used in Anime.

Edit: for example, without knowing anything about the shows, the summaries in the Anime of the Year 2014 results thread exclude most of those shows that made the cut. Not all, mind you.

Probably won't fulfill all requirements because I didn't look closely but Now and Then Here and Now might interest you. The treatment of women part might be disqualified because it goes into the horrors of war and child slavery, so it's a head up if you don't want to watch that kind of thing.

You can also try Jin-Roh the Wolf Brigade. It's a movie so you can finish it in one sitting.
 
What do you mean by that? I never even thought of log horizon in that way.

indeed but not alot of manga gets translated but scanlated

Log Horizon deals in harem tropes towards the end of Season 1. It's not as bad at Sword Art Online, but it's still there.

Not a real world modern setting.

He said "preferably".

What is this...it's almost like a list that was constructed intentionally to rule out anything anyone could possibly think of

And yet, people have offered up recommendations.
 
I actually dug it up and it was Aeana and Mumei's fault, apparently. I thought it was AnimeGAF's doing but nope!

EDIT: There's very little true anime that's targeted to adults, if any. Cat Soup is the only one that immediately comes to mind because that shit can't possibly be for kids. I took it to mean that the story and narrative aren't blatantly appealing to a younger crowd. So, while Revolutionary Girl Utena isn't exactly for 30-somethings, it's not exactly pandering to teens and young adults either. It just kind of exists, free of labels.
Based Ikuhara.

So I'm in for a treat watching Utena? Gosh it's really great so far, I'm hoping it's consistent
 
Log Horizon deal in harem tropes towards the end of Season 1. It's not as bad at Sword Art Online, but it's still there.

ah... yes.

Log Horizon is not targeted at adults. I thought it was a pretty fun show at first (I am a sucker for the portal fantasy genre, even though most of it is terrible), but I think it is progressively getting worse thanks to the inclusion of all of the romance subplots. They are done terribly and extremely superficially and it seems that the only point of many of the female characters are either to obsess over the male characters or be fan service. It also feels like it is turning into a harem show.

As for badass, the main character is obviously supposed to be a badass. Not your typical I am going to break shit in an awesome manner badass, but I am going to be a devious strategist badass.

I am not sure what human and social themes it deals with either. If it does, it is done very superficially. As for political, well, it deals with politics in a medieval fantasy setting. Does not really apply, and still , very superficially.

I likely overlooked most of it because it's not the standard stuck in mmo anime.
 
- there's plenty of action, but that's not the focus
- aren't they?
- what?
- I'll give you that
- who's perverted?
- who would this be referr -
May Chang, fuck. OK.

Roy Mustang with the military skirts for women.

Forget it though, I got that mixed up with Brotherhood, I keep forgetting those little differences between the two.
 
I wanna bring up .hack//SIGN again. Tsukasa is a girl in real life but plays as a boy in game to fit in. She is a very depressed person and has problems with interaction. The story is paced pretty slow and there's very little focus on any kind of combat. It may show up from time to time but not the majority of the time. The main thing is about interaction and dealing with responsibilities, there are some politics and references to the real world and each character does have a slight air of mystery of who they are in real life. There was even a random normal conversation on how like one character, B.T. even came up with their screen name.

The characters, despite being in game have a realness to them that we all know about from talking on message boards or playing an MMO. There's no soft shots, waifu material and there's no pandering. There are big eyes but the art is nice and smooth. The only character who actually thinks he's a total badass or a big shot is Sora, a player killer who is actually an 8 year old kid in real life and that just lends to the credibility of imitating real life and how many kids think this, especially when playing video game games.

On the topic of fantasy, there is some of it because it all is inside an MMO, the OVA from the PS2 games take place in the real world. But I think there's enough mixture of fantasy and real world blending in in the TV series like we all kind of do in any MMO where you'd just may hangout and just talk and maybe do something.


I don't know if you'd actually watch it Stump but I'd like to hear your thoughts on it.
 
I've noticed that I've been growing a bit apathetic towards anime over the past 3 years as I've studied to become a professional animator/artist (Senior art/animation instructors in the west don't really wanna see that stuff in your portfolio. As far as they're concerned it doesn't look professional)
Outside of Miyazaki/Ghibli and classics like Akira (which they make us study), I generally don't pay a lot of attention to Japanese animation. I mostly look at western animated shorts/shows/movies with the occasional subtitled or dubbed foreign gem mixed in every so often.

If I'm mostly unenthusiastic about anime then I have to imagine that most mainstream people probably don't give a hoot about it (sans Miyazaki...maybe)
 
And yet, people have offered up recommendations.

Yeah, but some of the things he mentions are vague and thus potentially rule out a lot. Like for instance what does "should not be built around fighting or combat" mean? Does that mean it shouldn't have any? GITS (I know I always use it) has eps where there's no action and just talking, yet I'm not sure if it would qualify, just because it has fighting.

Then the no robots, pretty much eliminates anything that isn't contemporary, pretty much all scifi and some fantasy. Sounds like he JUST wants slice of life shows

Roy Mustang with the military skirts for women.

Forget it though, I got that mixed up with Brotherhood, I keep forgetting those little differences between the two.

Liking skirts doesn't make someone a pervert...doing perverted things does
 
Yeah, but some of the things he mentions are vague and thus potentially rule out a lot. Like for instance what does "should not be built around fighting or combat" mean? Does that mean it shouldn't have any? GITS (I know I always use it) has eps where there's no action and just talking, yet I'm not sure if it would qualify, just because it has fighting.

Then the no robots, pretty much eliminates anything that isn't contemporary, pretty much all scifi and some fantasy. Sounds like he JUST wants slice of life shows



Liking skirts doesn't make someone a pervert...doing perverted things does
those slice of life shows hardly get licensed and released
 
So I'm in for a treat watching Utena? Gosh it's really great so far, I'm hoping it's consistent

Yes, it is very highly regarded by some (I say "some" because Utena is pretty niche), particularly for its themes of female empowerment.
 
those slice of life shows hardly get licensed and released

A lot of them do, assuming we're talking anime, not manga. I feel like he'd like Genshiken, but it blatantly violates some of the second group of things, even though it does so intentionally because it's playing on otaku stereotypes and the characters get called out on it. Oh well
 
I actually dug it up and it was Aeana and Mumei's fault, apparently. I thought it was AnimeGAF's doing but nope!

EDIT: There's very little true anime that's targeted to adults, if any. Cat Soup is the only one that immediately comes to mind because that shit can't possibly be for kids. I took it to mean that the story and narrative aren't blatantly appealing to a younger crowd. So, while Revolutionary Girl Utena isn't exactly for 30-somethings, it's not exactly pandering to teens and young adults either. It just kind of exists, free of labels.
Based Ikuhara.

Eh?

Aeana and I thought he should watch Monster!
 
A lot of them do, assuming we're talking anime, not manga. I feel like he'd like Genshiken, but it blatantly violates some of the second group of things, even though it does so intentionally because it's playing on otaku stereotypes and the characters get called out on it. Oh well
Slice of life is pretty much the biggest genre right now.


They do? huh. My bad.

I rarely watch them so what do you recommend? I'm more open minded.
 
Its in this weird balance where it is gaining relevance in a "haha im so nerdy" way and losing it because of all the lewd shit. There is always a gateway anime out like every other year and at the same time there is a lot of shit to search through to get the good shit.
 
Really, Stump would find a lot of stuff if he eased up on his criteria even if only a little bit. Something like Usagi Drop would fit if not for the fact the OP is J-Pop.
 
Yeah, but some of the things he mentions are vague and thus potentially rule out a lot. Like for instance what does "should not be built around fighting or combat" mean? Does that mean it shouldn't have any? GITS (I know I always use it) has eps where there's no action and just talking, yet I'm not sure if it would qualify, just because it has fighting.

Then the no robots, pretty much eliminates anything that isn't contemporary, pretty much all scifi and some fantasy. Sounds like he JUST wants slice of life shows



Liking skirts doesn't make someone a pervert...doing perverted things does
Really, saying that you want all female officers to wear miniskirts while you pose and the other guy does a stupid anime nosebleed wasn't a classic "haha these guys are perverts" moment? All topped off with the female sighing in disappointment and walking away? Alright buddy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4GbLPZY-6Q
 
Eden of the East TV wasn't really bad, it just sort of meandered off towards the end.

I ain't gonna even bother defending the movies, that was just a whole lot of nothing.
 
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