Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 14: Snake... had a hard life

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Cuatomization wasn't on, there is a separate shot of the Mii Fighters menu

The argument was that "they should show all characters" yet they didn't bother to turn on customization to show Mii Fighters.

So yeah, I'm inclined to believe that the amount of characters in the roster doesn't really matter in ESRB as long as they show raunchy/questionable stuff, like say, animal abuse (see: Duck Hunt).
 
Gonna keep my expectations in check, but it does seem like all leaked pictures and footage were taken around the same time so I'm leaning slightly towards the idea of there being more characters.

Doesn't really change anything because we can't be sure, but that PoTD certainly gives me hope.
 
Also the Bowser Jr/DHD leaker may have very well just seen the ESRB CSS and assumed that Wolf/Lucas/ICs were cut because they assumed it was final (like we have been).
 
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Okay, I would love it if someone could make a log of votes. Let's all vote, on - if we do in fact have five more characters to see - what those characters will be. The five characters refer to characters revealed at 3DS launch - not DLC or time-locked for Wii U.

Also, you have to be specifically right for a character to count - if you vote Ice Climber (solo) and we get Ice Climbers (or vice versa), it don't count. Though if you vote Chorus Men, it counts for Chorus Kids. My vote:

Chorus Kids
Tingle - I want to be able to say "I was the only one who stuck through to the bitter end" if he does turn out to be playable. :)
Ice Climber (solo)
Wolf
Lucas

I'm expecting Dixie Kong, Mewtwo, and Ridley to be time-locked for the Wii U release.
 
Mr. Game and Watch not being in the leak pic of the lock, makes it easier to believe that the pic simply was taken before the full roster was unlocked.


<trying my hardest not to get over hyped>
 
Okay, I would love it if someone could make a log of votes. Let's all vote, on - if we do in fact have five more characters to see - what those characters will be. The five characters refer to characters revealed at 3DS launch - not DLC or time-locked for Wii U.

Also, you have to be specifically right for a character to count - if you vote Ice Climber (solo) and we get Ice Climbers (or vice versa), it don't count. Though if you vote Chorus Men, it counts for Chorus Kids. My vote:

Chorus Kids
Tingle - I want to be able to say "I was the only one who stuck through to the bitter end" if he does turn out to be playable. :)
Ice Climber (solo)
Wolf
Lucas

I'm expecting Dixie Kong, Mewtwo, and Ridley to be time-locked for the Wii U release.
8 more characters? No way.


Ridley
Dixie
Mewtwo
Chorus Kids
Ice Climber OR Lucas OR Wolf

Ah, I see. But couldn't the unlockable character just be Game&Watch since he's not shown?

G&W was already unlocked in the leak.
 
The argument was that "they should show all characters" yet they didn't bother to turn on customization to show Mii Fighters.

So yeah, I'm inclined to believe that the amount of characters in the roster doesn't really matter in ESRB as long as they show raunchy/questionable stuff, like say, animal abuse (see: Duck Hunt).
They did show the Mii Fighters, in the one screen where you choose "Characters" or "Mii Fighters"
 
The argument was that "they should show all characters" yet they didn't bother to turn on customization to show Mii Fighters.

So yeah, I'm inclined to believe that the amount of characters in the roster doesn't really matter in ESRB as long as they show raunchy/questionable stuff, like say, animal abuse (see: Duck Hunt).

Yeah, I agree about that.

I wouldn't be surprised if a bunch of assumed cut veterans are just unlocks that weren't in the video.
 
8 PotDs remaining guys. Sakurai is giving us one last hype fuel to reach the final destination...

My hope for Ice Climbers is still alive! Let's see what the last days leading up to JP release still offer.
 
Mr. Game and Watch not being in the leak pic of the lock, makes it easier to believe that the pic simply was taken before the full roster was unlocked.


<trying my hardest not to get over hyped>
I don't think that picture is going to change no matter how many you unlock. That would be a lot of work.
 
Yeah, and if Ice Climbers are as difficult to implement as many insist they are, they could have very well been disabled in demo builds because they weren't in a usable state.

Good point, and a good example of characters who (if they haven't been abandoned) would be worked on down to the wire.

I don't think that picture is going to change no matter how many you unlock. That would be a lot of work.

Yeah I agree. I think it's safe to say menus and stuff will feature only starters.

HOPE WILL NEVER DIE

YEEEEEEEEEEEAH

*guitar solo*
 
I still feel Lucas/Wolf/Ice Climbers/Snake are definitely out of the default 3DS version, if only because ithe leak from months ago that started this whole Duck Hunt/Bowser Jr. thing flat out said they were cut, at least for the time being. Sal's source (if you still put stock in them) also seemed to think Lucas was likely getting cut, though also was pretty sure character DLC was happening.

Still, Impa/Mach/Mewtwo/Ridley/Dixie feel like fairgame to me now.

But the Duck Hunt/Bowser Jr. guy's source was the ESRB leak.

They did show the Mii Fighters, in the one screen where you choose "Characters" or "Mii Fighters"
But never as in "present", if you catch my drift.
 
Also the Bowser Jr/DHD leaker may have very well just seen the ESRB CSS and assumed that Wolf/Lucas/ICs were cut because they assumed it was final (like we have been).

I have thought this for some time.

Also a small note but the pic from the leak and the one shown today are not the same. The one in the leak mentions something about a high score while this one doesnt have it
 
It would definitely make sense to move the Ice Climbers to unlockable - that way all of the retro Nintendo characters are under the same "extra bonus"-type umbrella. They have very little marketing value to anyone who isn't already a dedicated Smash player. There's most likely precedent what with Wario, Luigi, etc. It's even the perfect excuse not to give them their own stage slot!

I WANT to believe, but I don't think my heart could handle it... at least I can look forward to the dog.
 
But the Duck Hunt/Bowser Jr. guy's source was the ESRB leak.
Was it? It also talked about the Koopaling alts and Alph being an alt for Olimar, neither which seems to be covered in the ESRB video.

Is Sakurai going to continue to update the website after release with unlockable characters (like he did for Brawl)?
I see zero reason why he wouldn't, especially if he wants to keep momentum going for the Wii U version a few months later!
 
I hope we can change the intensities of the All-Stars mode.

Not gonna play until I unlocked all of the characters.

Website isn't updated, hopes for music?
 
Yeah Sakurai def did this on purpose

I know people like to poke fun at those who think Sakurai is some sort of all knowing all trolling being, but I do think there's a possibility he flipped through the leak pics and saw the All Star one and thought "this would be a good chance to fuck with those assholes"

Sakurai is a potty mouth in my headcanon
 
If there is more characters, does anyone realistically expect Snake? I think the time to reveal him has long passed. Only chance would probably be DLC.
 
How glorious would it be if no one know whether Ice Climbers made it or not, and one of you GAFfers that is getting the Japanese game encounters this screen:

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I don't think Sakurai is trolling. He's just showing us how All-Stars is available from the start and how it works without all the characters unlocked. That's all.
 
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