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[The Dutch Slayer]

Does anyone think beside playing it on the PS4 their is any upside for the PS4 version of the game?

Because I would assume its just the ps3 game "working" on the PS4 right?

 

[thetrin]

I could be wrong, but I would guess that there are more people that have generally fond memories of high school than those who have absolutely negative knee-jerk responses to the setting. High-school wasn't the greatest thing ever, but a game like P4G sure made me introspective and a little bit nostalgic.

I'm pretty sure MOST people in the states hated high school. Not a lot of people I know remember it fondly. College, on the other hand, is a whole other story.

 

[striferser]

Does anyone think beside playing it on the PS4 their is any upside for the PS4 version of the game?

Because I would assume its just the ps3 game "working" on the PS4 right?

Other than 1080p and 60fps, probably no

Atlus not exactly known for it's graphic.

Oh, maybe the PS3 version is cheaper?

EDIT: Ok, maybe optional control using DS4

 

[Steel]

Does anyone think beside playing it on the PS4 their is any upside for the PS4 version of the game?

Because I would assume its just the ps3 game "working" on the PS4 right?

Well, Vita remote play is a pretty big plus for me anyway. I'd also imagine it would be a bit cleaner resolutionwise.

Oh, maybe the PS3 version is cheaper?

I seriously doubt that.

 

[Nesther]

Does anyone think beside playing it on the PS4 their is any upside for the PS4 version of the game?

Because I would assume its just the ps3 game "working" on the PS4 right?

1080p vs 720p for sure. And usually crossgen games run at higher framerate on PS4.

 

[Rogue_Ledr]

Other than 1080p and 60fps, probably no

Atlus not exactly known for it's graphic.

Oh, maybe the PS3 version is cheaper?

Dude, come on! Don't kill me with that pessimism!

Seriously though, you don't even think they would beef up the textures and the models A LITTLE?!?!?!?

Surely they could do that. Wouldn't take much work and the game isn't due out for a while.

 

[Koriandrr]

I want to believe in dual audio (P4A, ArcSys), but my mind knows that it won't happen (Catherine).



Is that the one with the pink alligator? That song had so many feels.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYuzXkDRRXE

I AM CRYING. WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS TO ME. THIS WAS SO SAD

Persona 5: Shadows of Despair

....I'd like that.

 

[JamboGT]

My PS3 is now only needed for GT6 and P4A it seems.

 

[Steel]

Dude, come on! Don't kill me with that pessimism!

Seriously though, you don't even think they would beef up the textures and the models A LITTLE?!?!?!?

Surely they could do that. Wouldn't take much work and the game isn't due out for a while.

This, Ys, and Disgaea 5 are probably going to be the least graphically intensive retail games the PS4 will get. Accept it.

Edit:

Actually now that I think about, Angry Bird's: Star Wars got a retail release, so that's not quite true.

 

[Alex]

Wonderful news for me. I'll probably get a PS4 around the time this hits, assuming we get it late 2015 or something. By then I should be able to pick out a handful of interesting games and make a thing of it.

 

[Rogue_Ledr]

This, Ys, and Disgaea 5 are probably going to be the least graphically intensive retail games the PS4 will get. Accept it.

::Frowns::

Dammit why can't these guys make games with better graphics? I don't understand it! It can't be a budgetary thing. There are small indie companies producing games with state of the art graphics.

This doesn't have to push the limits of graphical fidelity, but they could AT LEAST strive to create a bare minimum of graphical achievement worthy of a current gen game.

OK perhaps that is unrealistic for a game that is being ported from PS3, but still NO major enhancements? I just don't get that. Failings like this are the reason the Japanese game market keeps floundering in the face of the Western marker.

 

[Koriandrr]

::Frowns::

Dammit why can't these guys make games with better graphics? I don't understand it! It can't be a budgetary thing. There are small indie companies producing games with state of the art graphics.

This doesn't have to push the limits of graphical fidelity, but they could AT LEAST strive to create a bare minimum of graphical achievement worthy of a current gen game.

OK perhaps that is unrealistic for a game that is being ported from PS3, but still NO major enhancements? I just don't get that. Failings like this are the reason the Japanese game market keeps floundering in the face of the Western marker.

Because Pokemon.

No seriously. Why would they bother making new and 'better' graphics for a game with a large fanbase who like it the way it is.
Think of all the people quitting the game because 'it changed' if they do that and all the rage and disappointed hardcore loyalists.

 

[toddhunter]

::Frowns::

Dammit why can't these guys make games with better graphics? I don't understand it! It can't be a budgetary thing. There are small indie companies producing games with state of the art graphics.

This doesn't have to push the limits of graphical fidelity, but they could AT LEAST strive to create a bare minimum of graphical achievement worthy of a current gen game.

OK perhaps that is unrealistic for a game that is being ported from PS3, but still NO major enhancements? I just don't get that. Failings like this are the reason the Japanese game market keeps floundering in the face of the Western marker.

Why don't they also make cinematic cover based shooters where you learn how awful it is to kill your first human and how easy it is to kill the next 42000?

Because it doesn't really matter and they don't need to do it. In fact I'll go as far to say that graphics are only really important when the game itself kind of sucks. In this case, they do their thing, you get drawn into the world and forget about the limitations of what you are looking at.

And it is glorious.

The much better question is why don't Western devs forget about the graphics and make games that are deep and enjoyable, actually worthy of a current gen game? Because this game might just be the measuring stick against which all other games will be measured.

Or it might be shit. That would also be a possibility.

 

[Squire]

Does anyone think beside playing it on the PS4 their is any upside for the PS4 version of the game?

Because I would assume its just the ps3 game "working" on the PS4 right?

It'll probably be 1080p on PS4, but that should be it.

 

[Haunted]

["waifu"/"husbando" crap = ban]

!

Can we make that a GAF-wide rule?

 

[Lernaean]

It's Sega now so I think it can happen.

I think you are joking.
I'm very sorry if you really mean it.

 

[JamboGT]

I thought Persona 4 looked great on PS2 and Catherine looked great on PS3 personally.

 

[jgminto]

This, Ys, and Disgaea 5 are probably going to be the least graphically intensive retail games the PS4 will get. Accept it.

I can't imagine it'll look as bad as Ys. I'm expecting textures that wouldn't look out of place on a PS3. Plus Atlus has made some nice looking games before, look at Nocturne and Raidou 2. They've had so much time to work on the PS3 as well, they don't really have any excuses for it to look that bad.

 

[MSMrRound]

The only thing that I don't like about the announcement of Persona 5 for the PS4, is the amount of people that will be bitching and whining about "1080p, 60 frames" or whatsoever.

Why not be satisfied that you can play it on the PS4?

 

[jgminto]

Kinda defeats the purpose of announcing it for PS4 if it doesn't look or run better. There would be no reason to get it over the PS3 version.

 

[Zhao_Yun]

People really care about graphics in a Persona game?

Kinda defeats the purpose of announcing it for PS4 if it doesn't look or run better. There would be no reason to get it over the PS3 version.

I think the PS4 version will have some technical improvements but I doubt it will be anything major. Being able to remote play it on my Vita would be reason enough for me to buy the PS4 version to be honest

 

[wmlk]

::Frowns::

Dammit why can't these guys make games with better graphics? I don't understand it! It can't be a budgetary thing. There are small indie companies producing games with state of the art graphics.

This doesn't have to push the limits of graphical fidelity, but they could AT LEAST strive to create a bare minimum of graphical achievement worthy of a current gen game.

OK perhaps that is unrealistic for a game that is being ported from PS3, but still NO major enhancements? I just don't get that. Failings like this are the reason the Japanese game market keeps floundering in the face of the Western marker.

Better hardware != better graphics
Better hardware == more capabilities

If anything, games like these have shown me why I don't need stunning graphics to have fun with a game.

 

[Zareka]

Wait, people are actually worried about the graphics? Of course it's not going to anything next gen that'll blow your mind. It's a PS3 up port with an anime aesthetic. Hell, I'm inclined to disagree considering a better looking Catherine would look exceptional imo.

And for the "no benefits to the PS4 version": most likely 1080p/60fps, remote play, streaming, screenshots, saveable video clips. Of course there are reasons it'll be better on the PS4.

Semi related note, my hope for the boost in hardware isn't better graphics, it's better gameplay. Better AI, taking advantage of the power to do more stuff, not just look nicer. If you want a nice looking game, you don't need insane hardware: you just need to have a good artstyle.

 

[m@cross]

Besides 1080p/60fps on PS4, you guys don't think Sony will try to use this to market the PS4, especially in Japan, and have bonus content exclusive to that platform?

 

[GarciaHotspur]

Obviously Sony is trying to make a big amount of PS4 possessors in Japan ( DQ Heroes, Disgaea 5, Persona 5, the DQ Heroes PS4 collector.. ) maybe to announce THE game ?

 

[jgminto]

Besides 1080p/60fps on PS4, you guys don't think Sony will try to use this to market the PS4, especially in Japan, and have bonus content exclusive to that platform?

I doubt they'd do exclusive content, probably just lead the marketing with PS4 from now on.

 

[Teeth]

Semi related note, my hope for the boost in hardware isn't better graphics, it's better gameplay. Better AI, taking advantage of the power to do more stuff, not just look nicer. If you want a nice looking game, you don't need insane hardware: you just need to have a good artstyle.

This hasn't been a computationally limited problem in over a generation. It's basically a nonexistent limitation for any turn based game if we're even remotely talking about Persona.

 

[Aarglefarg]

After seeing the logo and character design, I'm wishing it is set in the 1970s that these hint at (though smartphones and other things point against it).

If they go for a modern day setting with 1970s styling, that could be interesting.

 

[Percy]

Personally I'd have thought the better OS, features(eg. Share) and controller as well as the resolution/performance boost would be plenty of reasons to favour getting the game on PS4 rather than PS3 if there are no price differences or anything (Though in Europe the PS4 version will cost more I'm betting).

 

[Zareka]

This hasn't been a computationally limited problem in over a generation. It's basically a nonexistent limitation for any turn based game if we're even remotely talking about Persona.

I meant for games in general, not really turn based games. I think turn based games are doing fine as is, haha.

 

[galvenize]

Judge him on his girly nature as much as you like, wait until he does this

Moist, our pants shall be.

 

[toddhunter]

Kinda defeats the purpose of announcing it for PS4 if it doesn't look or run better. There would be no reason to get it over the PS3 version.

Not having a PS3 seems like a mighty fine reason.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

Besides 1080p/60fps on PS4, you guys don't think Sony will try to use this to market the PS4, especially in Japan, and have bonus content exclusive to that platform?

No definitely no bonus content. Marketing is likely.

 

[ArkhamFantasy]

Does anyone think beside playing it on the PS4 their is any upside for the PS4 version of the game?

Because I would assume its just the ps3 game "working" on the PS4 right?

I think its safe to say that the PS4 version will be 1080p and either have a higher or more stable framerate.

 

[Stone Ocean]

Kinda defeats the purpose of announcing it for PS4 if it doesn't look or run better. There would be no reason to get it over the PS3 version.

I sold off my PS3 and wouldn't be able to play otherwise. That's reason enough for me.

Can we make that a GAF-wide rule?

Better yet, can we stop the reverse circlejerk since people have stopped talking about that the moment mods told them to?

 

[Alucrid]

Kinda defeats the purpose of announcing it for PS4 if it doesn't look or run better. There would be no reason to get it over the PS3 version.

now i can spend 100 hours with a dualshock 4 and not a dualshock 3

 

[silva1991]

listen to this and get hype even more!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqsJkiyn_gw

 

[Kyoufu]

Kinda defeats the purpose of announcing it for PS4 if it doesn't look or run better. There would be no reason to get it over the PS3 version.

You mean besides the better controller and Share features? Yeah. No reason.

 

[ZeroX03]

Also, the 2011-2012 PSP ports of the Persona 2 duology didn't do so hot sales-wise compared to 3 and 4, if memory serves. While the first game (Innocent Sin) stars high schoolers, the vast majority of the focus is unrelated to high school. (The second game, Eternal Punishment, has a playable cast that is 6/7ths adults with full-time jobs.)

I've heard it suggested that the ports were a way for Atlus to test the water for moving back to that sort of storyline. I don't know if that's true, but it doesn't seem to be the direction they want to take with P5.

A man can dream...

 

[Atlas157]

listen to this and get hype even more!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqsJkiyn_gw

The full version is better.

 

[Teeth]

I meant for games in general, not really turn based games. I think turn based games are doing fine as is, haha.

I know, I'm referring to other games as well. AI is an algorithmically limited problem, not a computationally limited one. It's not the lack of hardware, it's the lack of know-how or focus.

One could postulate that having more computational headroom could give programmers more time to work on AI instead of other challenges, but that's a management issue more than a hardware one.

Then there's the whole problem of Good AI vs Fun AI.

 

[Zareka]

I know, I'm referring to other games as well. AI is an algorithmically limited problem, not a computationally limited one. It's not the lack of hardware, it's the lack of know-how or focus.

One could postulate that having more computational headroom could give programmers more time to work on AI instead of other challenges, but that's a management issue more than a hardware one.

Then there's the whole problem of Good AI vs Fun AI.

Oh, my bad then. I figured more power = easer to make better AI but as you can probably tell I'm not the most technically knowledgeable person, so I was off. Excuse my ignorance!

 

[jgminto]

You mean besides the better controller and Share features? Yeah. No reason.

That's not really enough of a reason for somebody on the fence for upgrading. Also I don't think the controller is going to make much of a difference in a JRPG.

 

[kurahador]

It's not the Catherine engine. They've said it's a brand new engine.

Good. Gamebryo is buggy POS.

 

[Volcynika]

You mean besides the better controller and Share features? Yeah. No reason.

Kyoufu, I will play the game for you bro, no worries.

 

[Atlas157]

That's not really enough of a reason for somebody on the fence for upgrading. Also I don't think the controller is going to make much of a difference in a JRPG.

What about remote play?

I can play Persona 5 in bed or on the toilet.

 

[Ramza]

What about remote play?

I can play Persona 5 in bed or on the toilet.

That's the real deal, here. Playing P5 wherever I am. My productivity is going to completely tank.

 

[L.O.R.D]

maybe posted before, but its funny

 

[hughesta]

This will be my first Persona game. I'm very excited.

 

[Bladenic]

This will be my first Persona game. I'm very excited.

Why wait? Play P4 in the meantime.