Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 14: Snake... had a hard life
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Gonzo The Great
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We've already seen a trophy of Larry Koopa riding a blue Koopa Clown Car, which has never existed until now. There is a zero percent chance of the Koopalings NOT being playable.
foxuzamaki
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Woah it's up y'all
8 alt colors for everyone
"Pic of the day. Until now, you were only able to choose from four, or sometimes five or six colors for each character. This time, though, all characters have eight colors to choose from! The first four color schemes for Samus are based off her Varia Suit, Fusion Suit, Gravity Suit from Super Metroid, and the Dark Suit."
" And here she is in the color schemes of the Gravity Suit from Metroid Prime, Green Samus (a regular in the Smash series), the Light Suit, and Dark Samus. A total of eight colors."
That's pretty cool.
Problem right now is, if officially confirmed, Dr. Mario and Dark Pit are separate characters to Mario and Pit, respectively, much like Lucina is a separate character from Marth. This means separate data sets for voice dubs, animations, SFX, movie clips, name announcements, etc. With the Koopalings and Alph as alts, they share their data sets with Bowser Jr. and Olimar. It would be awkward if everything is Bowser Jr. but the one you are using is Wendy.
Agree pretty much. Not much against the inclusion of the Koopalings, but there's pretty much a lot of work for these kinds of alts, as they are not like the Villagers, WFT or Robin who shares the same identity even if the alt appearances are different.
Valjean Lafitte
Banned
I hope that leak is right about the Bowser Jr. alts.
Ludwig Von Koopa every time.
Ludwig Von Koopa every time.
One thing I really like: There's a good variety of colors. Even the two darker ones are nicely differentiated.
Sakamoto is deathly embarassed by Gravity Suit mirror matches.
That really isn't as much of a problem as you think it is.
Dr. Mario, Lucina and Dark Pit are separate characters because of moveset differences, not because they didn't know how to change sound effects, announcer sounds or voice dubs.
I think it's fantastic he is coming back. Having a Mario without the fludd is just great! I liked playing him before the fludd was added, now (for me) the down b is useless.
Vampirolol
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The only Koopaling that matters.
A Link to the Past
Banned
Am I the only one disappointed that one of the boy alts and one of the girl alts doesn't wear a skirt and pair of pants respectively?
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Oh missed the villager part, I guess true alts also count under the 8 costumes thingHoly moly, 8 alts! Sakurai had a field day with Dark Pit, I bet!
For new page:
"Pic of the day. Until now, you were only able to choose from four, or sometimes five or six colors for each character. This time, though, all characters have eight colors to choose from! The first four color schemes for Samus are based off her Varia Suit, Fusion Suit, Gravity Suit from Super Metroid, and the Dark Suit.
And here she is in the color schemes of the Gravity Suit from Metroid Prime, Green Samus (a regular in the Smash series), the Light Suit, and Dark Samus. A total of eight colors.
You can choose between four male and four female Villagers to play with. The designs for their faces and clothes are different. And here are the four Villagers we haven't shown you yet.
Come on, the Clown Vomit Suit deserves more respect than that!They missed a prime opportunity to let the worst Samus suit shine:
Gonzo The Great
Banned
The Koopalings already have HD assets and voice clips they could recycle from NSMBU/MK8. Adding them to the game wouldn't take much effort at all. The leak has been 100% right about EVERYTHING so far, so I can't believe people are still in denial.
Woah it's up y'all
8 alt colors for everyone
"Pic of the day. Until now, you were only able to choose from four, or sometimes five or six colors for each character. This time, though, all characters have eight colors to choose from! The first four color schemes for Samus are based off her Varia Suit, Fusion Suit, Gravity Suit from Super Metroid, and the Dark Suit."
" And here she is in the color schemes of the Gravity Suit from Metroid Prime, Green Samus (a regular in the Smash series), the Light Suit, and Dark Samus. A total of eight colors."
I would had changed Green Samus with Corrupted Samus: http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100309185836/metroid/images/8/82/Samus_Aran_MP3.jpg
They're based on pre-New Leaf Animal Crossing. That wasn't possible with these models.
WhiteRabbitEXE
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Samus's recolors are pretty slick (Dark Suit is waaay better than Brawl's), especially Dark Samus, but 4 Prime themed colors this just make me more annoyed than ever that her model is based off of Other M...
I really just don't understand that one. Metroid Prime was the best selling and best received game in the series. There had been five Prime games prior to the release of Brawl, out of a total of 10. Only one non-Prime game was released after the first Prime, and it was a handheld remake of the original game. And yet despite all that, and yet Sakurai stuck with the Super Metroid design for a third time (one more time than that armor was featured in the actual Metroid series...), rather than going with a Prime-inspired armor. This time around though Samus got updated for the first time in the series, with a design only ever featured in one game, that was the eight best selling game in a series of 11 games (not counting Wii re-releases), and that was relatively poorly received. Sure. Ok.
I really just don't understand that one. Metroid Prime was the best selling and best received game in the series. There had been five Prime games prior to the release of Brawl, out of a total of 10. Only one non-Prime game was released after the first Prime, and it was a handheld remake of the original game. And yet despite all that, and yet Sakurai stuck with the Super Metroid design for a third time (one more time than that armor was featured in the actual Metroid series...), rather than going with a Prime-inspired armor. This time around though Samus got updated for the first time in the series, with a design only ever featured in one game, that was the eight best selling game in a series of 11 games (not counting Wii re-releases), and that was relatively poorly received. Sure. Ok.
Lucina and Dark Pit would have most likely had unique voice and UI data even if they were to be selected as alts, if those comments Sakurai made are to be believed. Even if the Koopalings don't have their own CSS slot, their data might be accessed in a similar way.
Troubled Bat
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Holy moly, 8 alts! Sakurai had a field day with Dark Pit, I bet!
For new page:
"Pic of the day. Until now, you were only able to choose from four, or sometimes five or six colors for each character. This time, though, all characters have eight colors to choose from! The first four color schemes for Samus are based off her Varia Suit, Fusion Suit, Gravity Suit from Super Metroid, and the Dark Suit.
And here she is in the color schemes of the Gravity Suit from Metroid Prime, Green Samus (a regular in the Smash series), the Light Suit, and Dark Samus. A total of eight colors.
You can choose between four male and four female Villagers to play with. The designs for their faces and clothes are different. And here are the four Villagers we haven't shown you yet.
HOLY SHIT! This is my most favorite update!! I should sleep more. Heh. I'm so damn happy that I got a colors update.
Maan.. Dark Samus looks so damn good. Will definitely be my second choice. I could never leave my Fusion Suit Samus behind, it's my most favorite one.
As for the Villager, not really feeling them, but I already my favorite. The female Villager with the dark geen. ^^
Guys, this makes me ttuly happy because 8 alternate colors is confirmed. A long time ago, I actually called for Sakurai to give everyone 8 options.
I said goddamn. Colors... I want them all!
A Link to the Past
Banned
That's a shame. Can't wait for that skirt/panst alt alt designs!
OricWindstar
Member
My man!
Seven dwarves = seven koopalings
Yeah, more alts is a huge deal for me. The fact that we're getting true alts in additions to color is making the hype unbearable.HOLY SHIT! This is my most favorite update!! I should sleep more. Heh. I'm so damn happy that I got a colors update.
Maan.. Dark Samus looks so damn good. Will definitely be my second choice. I could never leave my Fusion Suit Samus behind, it's my most favorite one.
As for the Villager, not really feeling them, but I already my favorite. The female Villager with the dark geen. ^^
Guys, this makes me ttuly happy because 8 alternate colors is confirmed. A long time ago, I actually called for Sakurai to give everyone 8 options.
I said goddamn. Colors... I want them all!
Valjean Lafitte
Banned
Nah, more color variation>more fanservice. Corrupted Samus is purple and blue and would just meld in with the other dark costumes.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Ice climbers really are cut then
Ice climbers really are cut...im gonna cry....
I'm assuming he kept Green Samus on not only for consistency, but because it is the only way for her to have a green color for Team Battles.
It's not a problem for those characters, as they are not alts, but for the Koopalings and for Alph as they do not share the same identity as Bowser Jr. and Olimar, respectively. Same with Lucas if ever he was a Ness alt as someone suggested.
I guess that Ice Climbers Ridley gif I made when they accidentally posted a picture of the polar bear as the pic of the day will never see the light of day...
Using the unused Phazon Suit from Prime 1 would have provided more colour variation as well as being a reference. But it's expecting a little too much of the developers to reference that sort of content.
Not quite the only way...
foxuzamaki
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These are the important questions
They referenced Dark Samus instead, and two mostly black suits would be way too repetitive. I would have rather had the Phazon Suit since Dark Samus was already an Assist Trophy, but the color is still sick as hell.
Just forget about it. Nintendo realizes Other M was a failure, just wait for them to make a new game and we can all forget about Other M. Don't let it taint a good thing.
The Great Gonzales
Member
They missed a prime opportunity to let the worst Samus suit shine:
Actually, that has the potential to look pretty cool in Smash. Granted, it's a thin line between amazing and hideous, but (most of) the rest of the palettes show that Sakurai knows how to stay on the right side of that line.
The NES suit is fairly similar to the regular Varia palette, while the Phazon Suit's muted silver with darker accents is distinct from the Dark Suit, Dark Samus and other colours in the game. Though I was actually referring to the unused green / turquoise Phazon suit, and how not giving characters palettes based on cut content is something we can probably give the dev team a pass on.
Most of the time, yes.
GreenLiquid
Neo Member
Glad to see that new villager has the number of death of all things on his shirt.
Since we've seen that Kirby's hat after copying the villager is his hair, I wonder if that will change depending on which alternative costume is being used. It looks like only two (or three?) of the villager alts actually have that haircut.
Since we've seen that Kirby's hat after copying the villager is his hair, I wonder if that will change depending on which alternative costume is being used. It looks like only two (or three?) of the villager alts actually have that haircut.
Lucina can simply get away with it much like how male and female Robins get away with it and have her identity as "Marth" instead of Lucina. Dark Pit too can share everything from Pit.
Though in a sense, it could also work similarly to how Zelda and Sheik have difference in everything (from announcer names to ending movies) and still share the same CSS slot (though in Brawl Zelda/Sheik block is divided in two). Also Samus and ZSS in Brawl as well. So can be a possibility for the junior and Alph
or Lucas 
A Link to the Past
Banned
See, to me the Fusion design looks organic and corrupted to an extent. This suit just looks very ordinary, looking like a suit with a very specific paint job.
Benzychenz
Member
I hope Shulk has eight different outfits from Xenoblade rather than alt colours. We've already seen his swimsuit.
I want jungle Shulk.
I want jungle Shulk.
Troubled Bat
Member
Yessss. I can't wait till more news drops on by about alts and colors. Can you imagine characters like Pikachu/Jigglypuff? There is so much potential for everybody, that I just can't possibly think of any. Too much is filling in.
I'm really excited about seeing if Falco can get a color that tops my most favorite.. The red one. Shulk has me pretty damn interedted as well. Palutena, i'm expecting a Medusa alt. color. ^^
All the worlds colors are mine!
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
I think you read his comment wrong
A Link to the Past
Banned
I think that Villager should have been given an upper-hand in alt colours. I want every Villager alt to have eight different shirts!
The Great Gonzales
Member
Okay, even for Sakurai that's a bridge too far.
Most of the time, yes.
Honestly, I don't see what's so bad about this one. It looks okay to me.
BuggyDClown
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Dark Samus.
I am so fucking happy right now.
I am so fucking happy right now.
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