Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread XV: Kübler-Ross Edition
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I'm talking leading role here, not some bit part.
ArchedThunder
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A large part of me thinks that Other M might be the last Metroid game ever.
;~;
MrSaturn99
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A Link to the Past
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Can't wait for the Qwilfish Qollectible Qard Game
Icelandic_Jazz
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If we got Waluigi, Dixie, Ridley, Lucas, and Mewtwo in the next Smash I think I'd be perfectly happy with Nintendo representation. We're darn close as it is.
I still want to see Starfy playable tho
I still want to see Starfy playable tho
Given that she was in serious consideration for Brawl, I am surprised Dixie likely won't be there at launch. Really surprised
I think that is being overly pessimistic
I think that is being overly pessimistic
I agree - he was the one shining beacon in an ocean of shit. And looking at his horrifically racist concept art, you can see how it could have been so much worse.
Immaculate
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBXddbXQaXE
So the commercial released and this one says "over 40 characters". If there really was more characters to the roster to make it 54 characters wouldn't it just be nicer to say over 50 characters? Cause you know more is better is a big thing when you market something etc etc
So the commercial released and this one says "over 40 characters". If there really was more characters to the roster to make it 54 characters wouldn't it just be nicer to say over 50 characters? Cause you know more is better is a big thing when you market something etc etc
I think we saw the final roster
superNESjoe
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Just had an interesting debate that turned into an argument for no reason with somebody regarding competitive tournament play and the new Smash. It got me curious so I figured I'd get a response from smashGAF.
Am I the only one that seems confident that Smash 3DS will not be supported at major/high-level tournaments once the Wii U version comes out? Heck, am I alone in thinking it won't even be majorly supported before the Wii U version comes out?
My main point revolved around the fact that competitive players actively avoid using non-crt monitors and wireless controllers due to potential lag/latency, and having a handheld device that requires wireless LAN to play wouldn't jive with that. I also mentioned that handheld games aren't as easy to spectate without incredibly expensive equipment.
Am I crazy, have I lost my mind? I thought this was a generally understood and universally agreed thing.
Am I the only one that seems confident that Smash 3DS will not be supported at major/high-level tournaments once the Wii U version comes out? Heck, am I alone in thinking it won't even be majorly supported before the Wii U version comes out?
My main point revolved around the fact that competitive players actively avoid using non-crt monitors and wireless controllers due to potential lag/latency, and having a handheld device that requires wireless LAN to play wouldn't jive with that. I also mentioned that handheld games aren't as easy to spectate without incredibly expensive equipment.
Am I crazy, have I lost my mind? I thought this was a generally understood and universally agreed thing.
Hot Coldman
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They said at E3 they were planning new 2D and 3D Metroid titles, so probably not!
A Link to the Past
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That's not what I said though :v Barely different, because that's what Dark Pit is looking to be. If Dixie Kong was just Diddy Kong with a couple changes and a VA, people would spend the next decade ruminating over how Dixie is now stuck as a Diddy clone forever
Of the 151, these are who are more well-known than Dixie Kong:
-Every legendary
-Dragonite
-Magikarp & Gyrados
-Eevee's family
-Ditto
-Gengar
-Machamp
-Alakazam
-Meowth
-Diglett/Dugtrio
-Jigglypuff
-Pikachu
-Pidgeot
-The starters
Most of these have had fairly large roles in games before and are remembers for some unique, important gameplay aspect of the series.
There are currently exactly 40 character confirmed as of now
if the alternate mii versions are counted.
We already talked about this. The website lists 40 characters, that's why they say over 40, let's stop bringing it up :/
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Right back at ya.
Alright, you win.
so the official titles really are Super Smash Bros 3DS and WiiU
Yep, it's official title.
Jawmuncher
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I never actually looked at that so I'll go and check it out.
Dimitri LH
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New thread.....I can almost smell the brand new game!
StreetsAhead
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A Link to the Past
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Yes, but it also takes away the surprise if you say 50+
I expect that there will be some minor tournament play, but the 3DS version will mostly be used as a "training tool" to prepare for real tournaments.
friskykillface
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Cool commercial
Needs more ice climbers
Can't wait til the wii u version unleashes the climbers
Needs more ice climbers
Can't wait til the wii u version unleashes the climbers
Benzychenz
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Snorlax and Lapras for sure too.
Okay, so, Dixie get a leading role in DKC2. Still not more iconic than the original 151. Although, Dixie is a candidate for future Smash games and most of those Pokemon aren't. (Other than Pokeball items.)
Immaculate
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I was debating Butterfree and Beedrill as well. But yeah, I feel this is a pretty non-arguable list.
Mii Fighters = 3 characters
StreetsAhead
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'Iconic', 'relevant', 'deserving' or 'well-known' are pretty irrelevant terms when it comes to Smash.
ArchedThunder
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They can plan all they want, but until I see a new Metroid game that isn't anything like Other M the series is over.
;~;
Yeah whatever. I just went to my local jazz bar and asked if they had heard of any of those and they said no. I asked them if they had heard of Dixie and they said yes.
Proof is in the pudding son.
A Link to the Past
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Like others said, it's also an issue that the Mii Fighters are treated by the ads as individual characters.
MaverickHunterAsh
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I think there will be both. There is no way, for example, that at next year's PAXes (and all the PAXes beyond), there won't be tournaments for both Smash Wii U and 3DS. There won't only be a Wii U tournament with the 3DS getting completely shafted. So many more people are going to have the 3DS version than the Wii U one by default (3DS vs. Wii U install base) that completely ignoring the 3DS version on any level once the Wii U version comes out makes no sense. Even after the Wii U version has been out for awhile, there will be plenty more people who have the 3DS version.
hipsterpants
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As someone who hasn't played a lot of Donkey Kong, I don't really know anything about Dixie. In terms of the general public the OG 151 are more iconic. Though after typing this out I realize this debate is pretty stupid, lol
The only thing stopping me from getting Tropical Freeze is all the other games I have to play. Metroid Prime 2 is sooooo good.
The only thing stopping me from getting Tropical Freeze is all the other games I have to play. Metroid Prime 2 is sooooo good.
Jawmuncher
Member
Wait...
They're still using CRTVs at EVO?
They're still using CRTVs at EVO?
If we count Mii as three characters doesn't that make the leaked roster something like 51 characters anyway?
Other M should really never be mentioned or referenced again, aside from the suit I suppose.Da Fuck.
Anthony is plently suitable.
And Anthony is such a generic character anyway.
A Link to the Past
Banned
Machamp is iconic
No shutup, that's just silly. Machamp's most famous role was being the rare holo in the very first constructed TCG deck
No shutup, that's just silly. Machamp's most famous role was being the rare holo in the very first constructed TCG deck
But at what cost?
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
40 characters....
superNESjoe
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Sure, the game will be played a lot and organized in many events, but I just don't think you will ever see Smash 3DS at something like EVO. A legit, high-level tournament where competitive players go to, well, really compete.
I wasn't trying to make a point that the 3DS version would be abandoned or not supported, just that it wouldn't really be supported by the really hardcore competitive scene.
Yes. And Miis should absolutely be counted as three separate characters.
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
He's in the Pokken Trailer as a playable character fighting Lucario.
BOOM!
I am not authorized to say.
Input lag is a bitch.
A Link to the Past
Banned
Precisely. If Mii Fighters are considered their own characters, then 40+ must refer to the known roster.
Immaculate
Banned
But they still count as one slot together. Pokemon trainer was made up of 3 characters and still counted as one slotMii technically counts as 3(Gunner, swordsman, Brawler)
Edit: Beaten
When?
DKC3 son. Dixie Kong's Double Trouble. Like EA it's in the name. And then we have DKL3.
You are arguing for all 151 Pokémon, most of whom people have long forgotten vs a character who not only has their own leading roles but has just had a well received recent game that they've starred if.
It's a silly argument and there's really no point in continuing because no matter how many words you type, they'll all be wrong. That's not an opinion, that is logically deduced fact.
OK, you got me there.