Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread XV: Kübler-Ross Edition

Wasn't this menu in one of the leaks, particularly one that was considered fake? I remember this clearly being in one of them.

Yup, with the All-Star confirmation earlier we know all those leaks were legit.

Aside from Bowser, it doesn't appear like much effort was put into the old characters. We still have Falcondorf, Peach still has her useless Final Smash and how much do you want bet Fox & Falco still both have the Landmaster?

I mean, the Landmaster made some sense for the both of them, so that's not really an issue. Wolf was the weird one with that.
 
I mean, the Landmaster made some sense for the both of them, so that's not really an issue. Wolf was the weird one with that.
Falco: Personally, I prefer the air.

*gets in Landmaster*

It doesn't make sense for Falco to use the Landmaster. His FS should be an Arwing assault.
 
Aside from Bowser, it doesn't appear like much effort was put into the old characters. We still have Falcondorf, Peach still has her useless Final Smash and how much do you want bet Fox & Falco still both have the Landmaster?

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Final Smashes are the coolest concept that failed to deliver on almost every level. And instead of getting better, it's even WORSE in Smash 4.

The only Final Smash I ever thought delivered on the promise was Captain Falcon.
 
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That's how I feel sometimes when I go through these threads.
 
To me smash 3DS and Smash WiiU are both smash 4.

They're the same product in my eyes.

Same fighting engine means they're both variants of the same game. Wii U is not smash 5. Smash 5 is new engine. Street fighter 2 Turbo was not Street fighter 3. Street fighter 3 was Street fighter 3. Same thing here.

Smash Wii U, if anything, is Ultimate Smash 3DS.
 
It doesn't make sense for Falco to use the Landmaster. His FS should be an Arwing assault.

He says he prefers the air because he's in a weird flying tank.

I mean, an Arwing would fit him better but he's a member of Star Fox and he's using Star Fox artillery so it's not that crazy.
 
I think my favourite piece of Smash 4 music so far is "Try, Try Again". Such a good arrangement. Hopefully that shows up in the Paper Mario stage and not the 3D Land stage.
 
Same fighting engine means they're both variants of the same game. Wii U is not smash 5. Smash 5 is new engine. Street fighter 2 Turbo was not Street fighter 3. Street fighter 3 was Street fighter 3. Same thing here.

Smash Wii U, if anything, is Ultimate Smash 3DS.

I agree with this.
This why when people refer to them as 4 and 5 it gets confusing for me.
 
He says he prefers the air because he's in a weird flying tank.

I mean, an Arwing would fit him better but he's a member of Star Fox and he's using Star Fox artillery so it's not that crazy.
You can certainly find ways to justify it, but Falco doesn't ever use the Landmaster in the Star Fox series and he was always the ace pilot of the crew.

Him having the LM is just laziness.
 
That's true. I feel like I know the menu layout like the back of my hands now.

I probably would have been fine since the bottom screen has pictures anyway.

So, good to know that we finally know what the streetpass content is.

It's this!

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...when was this announced ?
 
I think my favourite piece of Smash 4 music so far is "Try, Try Again". Such a good arrangement. Hopefully that shows up in the Paper Mario stage and not the 3D Land stage.

We only get two tracks per stage in the 3DS version, so I'd prefer the Paper Mario stage get tracks from Paper Mario. I like Try, Try Again, but this is the first chance PM's had at getting its music in a smash game.

Mario has like, 4 stages to choose from, so I'm sure it can find another home.
 
Aside from Bowser, it doesn't appear like much effort was put into the old characters. We still have Falcondorf, Peach still has her useless Final Smash and how much do you want bet Fox & Falco still both have the Landmaster?
I wouldn't say that neccesarily. Yoshi, Pit, ZSS, Olimar, and Metaknight went through some big revisions and alterations. Kirby and DeDeDe also got new FS. However I will say not all characters were given equal care and attention. I would've thought characters such as Ganondorf and Toon Link would've been higher priorities than Yoshi and Bowser.
 
I'm a bit annoyed Kirby got changed from a cool unique FS, to a generic big sword, while other duplicate FS's got left alone.
 
I'm a bit annoyed Kirby got changed from a cool unique FS, to a generic big sword, while other duplicate FS's got left alone.
I mean I think his FS is better than his other one but Robin's, Greninja's, Link's, toon link's and Kirbys are all a little too similar.
 
I'm a bit annoyed Kirby got changed from a cool unique FS, to a generic big sword, while other duplicate FS's got left alone.

I'm not. I played as Kirby a lot in Brawl and that Final Smash was pretty terrible in practice. People dodged it every time. The giant sword looks way more useful.
 
You can certainly find ways to justify it, but Falco doesn't ever use the Landmaster in the Star Fox series and he was always the ace pilot of the crew.

Him having the LM is just laziness.

That's not strictly true, since Falco can use the landmaster in Assault's MP mode. But Falco's depiction in Smash is kind of lazy by nature of his origin as a clone.
 
Wait, Peach's Final Smash is the same? Da fuck
Really? Well that sucks. Her FS is just "peaches cuz Peach." Oh and you fall asleep just because.

Makes little sense and is just straight up useless.

The team should've have drawn from the sports series. Even a Super Princess Peach elemental FS would be better.
 
Does this guide everyone talking about have good quality pics?

No, it's pretty zoomed out and you can't see everything because it's cut off...the pictures of the guide, that is.

Not a lot of new stuff, besides all the Starter FS (have we seen the Mii Fighters'? It's too small to make out), info on that Tin Pin thing, and Dr. Kawashima AT.
 
Really? Well that sucks. Her FS is just "peaches cuz Peach." Oh and you fall asleep just because.

Makes little sense and is just straight up useless.

The team should've have drawn from the sports series. Even a Super Princess Peach elemental FS would be better.

should've summoned Bowser's arms through portals like in Bayonetta :P
 
No, it's pretty zoomed out and you can't see everything because it's cut off...the pictures of the guide, that is.

Not a lot of new stuff, besides all the Starter FS (have we seen the Mii Fighters'? It's too small to make out), info on that Tin Pin thing, and Dr. Kawashima AT.

The Dr. Kawashima AT popped up on the website that day they did all the site updates with Shulk. http://www.smashbros.com/us/howto/entry6.html
 
Really? Well that sucks. Her FS is just "peaches cuz Peach." Oh and you fall asleep just because.

Makes little sense and is just straight up useless.

The team should've have drawn from the sports series. Even a Super Princess Peach elemental FS would be better.

I thought the artwork was from super princess peach, at least! :(

It's basically like luigi's negative zone, at least that was changed.

That said, while it sucks that it's the same, in the grand scheme of final smashes, hers is now unique. Most final smashes are 'land a hit, do a combo(kirby, dedede, metaknight, link, luigi, robin, villager, etc)', 'change into another form (landmaster, gigabowser)', or 'giant projectile (mario/samus/zelda, wii fit trainer)'

ZSS, Rosalina, and peach have some of the most unique ones, now
 
This is really random, but I love reading all the reactions people had to newcomer trailers, so I've compiled the post-E3 2013 ones if anyone else is interested in reading through them; there's some really funny stuff! Obviously Robin / Lucina is the best, as people are losing their fucking minds. Shame that the reaction to Shulk is relatively calm considering the leak. Anyway, here ya go:

Rosalina
Little Mac
Greninja
Mii Fighters
Palutena
Pac-Man
Robin / Lucina
Shulk
These are fun to read, lol.
 
Yup, with the All-Star confirmation earlier we know all those leaks were legit.



I mean, the Landmaster made some sense for the both of them, so that's not really an issue. Wolf was the weird one with that.

Falco would be better in an Arwing kinda like Snake's FS since he is the ace pilot of the team.
 
I mean, final smashes were conceived as early as Smash 64 it's just the console (the N64) couldn't handle them -- Captain Falcon's FS sound effects, I think, date back to then even (or maybe I'm confusing his sound effects with the ones that were found on Melee's disc). In any case, it's no surprise that the basis for CF's FS (trigger hitboxes into a cinematic "super") is what's used for most of the characters' final smashes in the game because that's literally what they were all going to probably be like if Sakurai ever made them in Melee (well, maybe Ness' PK Star Storm SFX also indicate a FS like his was also a concept). But still, you get the point.

Trigger hitboxes into a special cinematic, as boring as it is, is what "works" and the only other final smashes that are second to that as "working" are transformation ones (this also includes Landmaster). Otherwise, the rest are either just too easy to avoid, don't actually do anything, or are actually just flat out OP.

Final Smashes really seem more like an afterthought than a main feature of a character, when they really should be given the same respect their special moves are given. Maybe I'm exaggerating but it just seems like there's not much care for final smashes for most of the cast.
 
Is there any info on how music works yet?
Is it only 2 that can be used per stage on 3DS or can you choose whatever song you want from all the available?
 
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