Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread XV: Kübler-Ross Edition

Kyzon

Member
Fox : Landmaster
Falco : Landmaster
Wolf : guess what? Landmaster

THIS is embarrassing.

And don't talk about shoto, there is more differences between Ryu and Ken than Fox, Falco and Wolf. I will not talk about Gouki, Sakura, Sean, Evil Ryu, Gouken, Oni ... Its like night and day.

Clones in Smash are just a way too make the roster look bigger, stop making clones, and take the time to revamp chars like Ganondorf, Toon Link, Donkey Kong... I like clones but I think there is enough veteran character who deserve a proper moveset.

Oh, I'm going to talk about the shoto, because this makes perfect sense in relation to what I'm talking about.

Ryu and Ken are like Fox and Falco, then wolf comes in and he's one of the other Shotos, for argument's sake I'll use Akuma right now because they're both the original badass of the fighting style


Ryu and Ken's movesets are more or less identical to each other, it's the properties and little bells and whistles that set them apart, and make their effective playstyles unique to them. Then there's Akuma (wolf) who takes that same base and turns it upside down. You don't play Akuma like you do Ken or Ken like Ryu. Likewise with Wolf, Fox and Falco. So I'll stand by my word that I feel it to be embarrassing to complain about more characters just because they have a similar style to another character. Even Dr Mario, because I'm sure he's not gonna just have a big ass pill and baby pills as his alt specials.

Now I can understand where that baseless argument earlier comes from where people think clones take the space of their favorite character, but that's just not how it is. Say you make a pound cake, it's a good pound cake. Pound cakes are your thing. You could say you're a master of pound cakes. Now you're catering to a party and they want at least 2 cakes (more if possible) but they don't want them to be exactly the same. You heard about this just now and the party is tonight. Now, since you're a master of pound cake, you throw together your usual pound cake, now you're at a crossroads. You can try and learn how to make a new type of cake and hope for the best, or you can just dish out another pound cake, but this time it's lemon pound cake. You just did all of that without having to make too much of an effort. May as well do an upside down pound cake as well since you're not spending time experimenting and looking up recipes.

And I'll agree that landmasters are dumb.
 
• Peach buffs/nerfs/changes?
• Toon Link only 6 alts?
Nope! The other two are hard to describe, but one was a sky blue/silver combo and the other was a pastel green.
Any chance that the sky blue Toon Link outfit was the pajamas?

I guess I should give up hope for a Yukata Lucina alt. *sigh*
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Jawmuncher

Member
It would have been something if someone had a Solid Snake esque color/alt.
Wouldn't know how to take that at this point.

Between 30-40% I believe.

Figured it wasn't that far since i'm just about to hit the 20 hour mark.
looks like another 40 for me.
 
Same as Melee and Brawl although she isn't tan anymore. The only name change and alternate model I saw (in my brief two rounds) was Pikmin & Alph.
Oh, and sadly Palutena's hair doesn't turn blonde for her Viridi costume :(
Oh, you got to play? That's awesome! Hearing it from you really soldifies Alph getting a name change as real.
 

Kinsei

Banned
Same as Melee and Brawl although she isn't tan anymore. The only name change and alternate model I saw (in my brief two rounds) was Pikmin & Alph.
Oh, and sadly Palutena's hair doesn't turn blonde for her Viridi costume :(

Will double-check about MK and WolFox. I didn't see any changes to MK's mask, but I'll check again.

Damn, I really wanted to play as Daisy. At least I (Hopefully) have Lemmy as my go to Mario character.
 

Vuapol

Member
Same as Melee and Brawl although she isn't tan anymore. The only name change and alternate model I saw (in my brief two rounds) was Pikmin & Alph.
Oh, and sadly Palutena's hair doesn't turn blonde for her Viridi costume :(

Will double-check about MK and WolFox. I didn't see any changes to MK's mask, but I'll check again.

Oh well =(
 

Masked Man

I said wow
That's a shame...any Rosalina tidbits?

Didn't play as her. Is there anything you'd like to know?

Any chance that the sky blue Toon Link outfit was the pajamas?

I guess I should give up hope for a Yukata Lucina alt. *sigh*

No, he was still wearin the cap and everything. :/ his hair was a sandy brown, fwiw. (I would have liked to see the pajamas, too...)

With or without flowers?

On the dress? Didn't check that closely, but I can. You mean the decoration on the center gem, right?

Oh, you got to play? That's awesome! Hearing it from you really soldifies Alph getting a name change as real.

Yeah, it looks like a different model and everything. Honestly surprised that Sakurai didn't think to include more... Or maybe he has and we just don't know yet.
 

Revven

Member
Same as Melee and Brawl although she isn't tan anymore. The only name change and alternate model I saw (in my brief two rounds) was Pikmin & Alph.
Oh, and sadly Palutena's hair doesn't turn blonde for her Viridi costume :(

Will double-check about MK and WolFox. I didn't see any changes to MK's mask, but I'll check again.

Oh so you're at the event right now? How many people are there/what's the line like?

I guess one thing I want to know is... does DK's dash attack roll off of edges? If you've gotten a chance to play him or would play him please check that out.
 

munchie64

Member
Same as Melee and Brawl although she isn't tan anymore. The only name change and alternate model I saw (in my brief two rounds) was Pikmin & Alph.
Oh, and sadly Palutena's hair doesn't turn blonde for her Viridi costume :(

Will double-check about MK and WolFox. I didn't see any changes to MK's mask, but I'll check again.
Damn blonde Palutena woulda been the GOAT.

You fit the Little Mac part perfectly.
Yeah I was worried I'd use too much Little Mac cause it fits so well lol
 

Veeboy

Member
• Victory themes = Brawl?
The Pokemon and Zelda themes were the same, sadly.

This is the worst possible news. At least now I know nothing else can disappoint me about Smash and I can look at all the positives :)

Same as Melee and Brawl although she isn't tan anymore. The only name change and alternate model I saw (in my brief two rounds) was Pikmin & Alph.

No Daisy...
This is the worst possible news.
 

Masked Man

I said wow
Oh so you're at the event right now? How many people are there/what's the line like?

I guess one thing I want to know is... does DK's dash attack roll off of edges? If you've gotten a chance to play him or would play him please check that out.

About 50 or so people in line, maybe? This round is moving a lot faster. Two tables of four for FFA and six single-player terminals.

Will check about DK!
 
No, he was still wearin the cap and everything. :/ his hair was a sandy brown, fwiw. (I would have liked to see the pajamas, too...)
Oh, I was just hoping for a crayfish design on the shirt, after the Skyward Sword Link color kept the hat I expected Toon Link to keep it too.
Still, if his hair color changed, it means the design was probably a reference to something... anyone have any ideas?
 

Josephl64

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Didn't play as her. Is there anything you'd like to know?



No, he was still wearin the cap and everything. :/ his hair was a sandy brown, fwiw. (I would have liked to see the pajamas, too...)



On the dress? Didn't check that closely, but I can. You mean the decoration on the center gem, right?



Yeah, it looks like a different model and everything. Honestly surprised that Sakurai didn't think to include more... Or maybe he has and we just don't know yet.

I guess I don't want you to go too far out of your way, just colors or a general feel for her(slow/fast any moves that really stand out from what we've seen)

I guess if she's relatively unchanged there isn't much to say
 

Kyzon

Member
I've reached my quota for long posts today, lol.

Are we hearing any more demo impressions?

Edit: I'm late to the party, haha
 
Oh, I was just hoping for a crayfish design on the shirt, after the Skyward Sword Link color kept the hat I expected Toon Link to keep it too.
Still, if his hair color changed, it means the design was probably a reference to something... anyone have any ideas?
Maybe Link's sprite in the original Zelda when you had the Blue Ring?

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Revven

Member
About 50 or so people in line, maybe? This round is moving a lot faster. Two tables of four for FFA and six single-player terminals.

Will check about DK!

Great, thanks! Any impressions about DK would be appreciated, even besides the specificity about his dash attack. Things like how much better/worse his attacks might be or how his aerial Down B works etc etc.

How long are you planning to be there? For the whole thing until it closes? If so, I'll get back to you about what else to check out in a moment (need time to think).
 

Watch Da Birdie

I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
Goku (Lucario) has Piccolo colors...

Neat...and, I guess gross too, depending on how long you've been on the net.
 

Crocodile

Member
As a pair of fighters The Ice Climbers fill a unique role in the roster that someone like Ike or Shiek doesn't. I understand perfectly fine how "game development works". Passing off the inclusion of the Ice Climbers as some sort of insurmountable programming task seems silly.

Ok so you're saying you like IC more than a lot of other members of the roster. That's fine. You think IC should have been prioritized over other characters that got in. That's also fine. The development team didn't feel that way. They had the resources to do 51 (at least) characters by launch and all the other content in the game. They decided some had to go. IC was left on the cutting room floor. THE END. That doesn't make them lazy, stupid, incapable of planning their projects correctly, etc. - they just had different priorities. The last part is what I'm trying to stress.
 

Kyzon

Member
About 50 or so people in line, maybe? This round is moving a lot faster. Two tables of four for FFA and six single-player terminals.

Will check about DK!

I remember during the E3 Demo Rosalina survived a KO punch at low percentage.

Have you connected with that move in this build? How's the power feel if you have?
 

Masked Man

I said wow
Are you allowed to play Smash Run multiplayer? I'd assume no, but I figured I'd ask.

Oops, it's actually four terminals. No multiplayer, though--everyone seems to be playing individually.

Thanks Masked Man, too bad no Black/Red Mario alt. Do you remember what all his colors were?

Not off the top of my head. Pretty plain, for lack of a better word--except for the USA suit, lol.
 
What has your main(s) been in each Smash game?

64:

Kirby - I absolutely loved him in that game, he was just so damn fun. Especially hitting a dair into multiple up tilts.

Melee:

Falco - I love Falco as a character, so I just have to use him for character loyalty. Plus his down throw into reflector, jump cancelled into a dair is so good.

But recently playing Melee all over, I'm loving Luigi because I have wavedashing down and it makes him so damn fun. Ganondorf is also another choice.

Brawl:

Falco - Character loyalty.
Ice Climbers - They just became pretty great to use after learning how to do chain grabs, it gave me a lot options to style, which I love doing.
 

Azure J

Member
Wait, we have an inside (Masked) man? Oh boy, I need for you to do the following:

- Try starting a dash (flick the circle pad one time) and putting up your shield. How fast does the shield animation end the initial dashing in the direction you flicked?

- Do the above but release the shield button and try a forward tilt attack. How fast are you able to transition from the shield release to the forward attack? Do the same thing but then instead of doing a forward tilt, crouch with no other input. How long does it take to go from shield to a crouching position?

- Hold Pit's neutral B. I remember someone mentioning that charging it lets it go further/might change its visual properties. Is this true?
 
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