Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread XV: Kübler-Ross Edition

I think Mii Fighters are linked to names, after all, almost everything about them is customizable. From look to weight/speed to moveset..

And if you have to set them up in your name menu/profile before using, it would make sense for them not be avaliable in the demo
 
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This is what I want to see post-DLC. If we had anymore after this, all I'd care about are Squirtle, Ivysaur, and Tingle.

Is it impossible that Sakurai would change his mind? Yeah, I would consider this a plausible guess - not "easy" but plausible.

You brought Sakurai's mention up though, which means that you're saying that Villager is plausible because Sakurai said he doesn't belong in Smash
 
What's right with Dixie?

There's like nothing they can give her to make her interesting as a character in Smash.

Same could been said for a lot of characters on that already on the roster. They could have a moveset based around her hair. She could share the popgun since she has a bubblegum one. She's one of Nintendo's oldest Heroines (Samus being the first) and I think she deserves it.
 
Mario: 6 Reps
Pokémon: 6 Reps

Nintendo's two biggest IPs. So it checks out.

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Totally works out. xD You can even end the "major series" rows perfectly with Pokémon too!

I just realized this would also explain why the Gematsu leak mentioned Lucas being cut but said nothing about Wolf/Ice Climbers!
 
Let's see, adding Wolf, Lucas and Mewtwo in with their franchises wouldn't screw up the roster at all, then add Ice Climbers and Chorus Men to the single series reps at the end.

Roster complete! :D
 
I think Mii Fighters are linked to names, after all, almost everything about them is customizable. From look to weight/speed to moveset..

And if you have to set them up in your name menu/profile before using, it would make sense for them not be avaliable in the demo

I'd guess you have to set them up in the customization screen before the icon shows up on character select at all. Then you'd have one big "Mii Fighters" slot as a catch-all and pick the one you want from a submenu or as you would an alt color.
 
I think Mii Fighters are linked to names, after all, almost everything about them is customizable. From look to weight/speed to moveset..

And if you have to set them up in your name menu/profile before using, it would make sense for them not be avaliable in the demo
This is an interesting point; maybe mii fighters are disabled because no miis are registered in the demo units.
 
Clones so far in the clone corner have been 1:1 clones with their base characters. If she had significant animation differences, she'd be with the other Donkey Kong characters, but she can't be because it would mess up the entire CSS to place her there.
We only know about Lucina so we can't really say, can we? Besides, Diddy only has a total of TWO attacks where he actually uses his tail, so it shouldn't be hard to reanimate them to something else. Melee Ganondorf had two unique animations after all from Falcon.
 
Clones so far in the clone corner have been 1:1 clones with their base characters. If she had significant animation differences, she'd be with the other Donkey Kong characters, but she can't be because it would mess up the entire CSS to place her there.

You don't know that, we only know about Lucina, Doc and Dark Pit could be different.

A third DK rep that isn't K.Rool is always a good thing.

'Course I'd rather it be Cranky, but he's stuck in that damn cabin for the third time.

When Cranky joins the battle Alfonzo is the Silouette in Jungle Japes. Alfonzo: Leave it to me!

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This is what I want to see post-DLC. If we had anymore after this, all I'd care about are Squirtle, Ivysaur, and Tingle.

Doc Louis and Isabelle bring nothing to Smash honestly...
 
You guys should just expect no other characters right now. Just assume that the leak was the final roster and if we get some others great.

But this is coming from someone who is happy with that roster.
 
When has Ganondorf punched stuff, kicked stuff, been super slow and physically strong (in human form)?
I know what you're trying to say, but he punches (well, elbows) stuff, kicks stuff, and is super slow and physically strong in the Twilight Princess sword fight.
 
Reposting for a final time:

SuperSah said:
What makes little sense is that the Smash Run awards screen does not allow you to move trophy models, it only shows you what you have, and a number appears in the top right corner of the bottom screen with a present icon in green which states how much awards were accumulated in Smash Run.

Barbara thing makes little sense as none of it is in the Smash Run screen, lol.
 
I know what you're trying to say, but he punches (well, elbows) stuff, kicks stuff, and is super slow and physically strong in the Twilight Princess sword fight.

Even if I agreed in that (that I don't)

Melee: 2001
Twilight Princess: 2006
 
Greninja brings nothing to Smash, cut 'em

Isabelle brings something to Smash because everyone likes her, like, almost universally. I've literally never ever EVER seen anyone say "ugh, Isabelle." She is probably one of the most endearing Nintendo characters and she has existed for barely one year.

As for Doc Louis, he brings a lot of potential humour, since he would have a ton of dialogue that he could use during the fights. He could also play around with mode switching, where he can switch between three sets of custom movesets on the fly and would be the only character to be able to do that in Smash.
 
Clones so far in the clone corner have been 1:1 clones with their base characters. If she had significant animation differences, she'd be with the other Donkey Kong characters, but she can't be because it would mess up the entire CSS to place her there.

I hardly doubt Dr. Mario is going to be shooting fireballs and using FLUDD.
 
We only know about Lucina so we can't really say, can we? Besides, Diddy only has a total of TWO attacks where he actually uses his tail, so it shouldn't be hard to reanimate them to something else. Melee Ganondorf had two unique animations after all from Falcon.
And his final smash. And his jet pack. And his peanut gun. Her bubblegum gun didn't exist when the roster would have been planned, they wouldn't use that.

Dixie isn't in this smash bros. And even so, if you want Dixie in smash, why would you want her to be a clone? It's already been shown once a character is a clone, they won't be able to not be a clone ever again, so if you want a character in Smash, why doom them to that life?
 
This is true, but it's weird as Hell to me that this takes precedence over the original Game & Watch line. But I guess there is also Game & Watch gallery, lots of them, that heavily featured Mario characters.

Man, everyone is a Mario character now.
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But I'm not even mad!

Less than a month, and September is already whizzing away. I'm so excited, but I could really do with a Wii U release date pronto.
 
And his final smash. And his jet pack. And his peanut gun. Her bubblegum gun didn't exist when the roster would have been planned, they wouldn't use that.

Dixie isn't in this smash bros. And even so, if you want Dixie in smash, why would you want her to be a clone? It's already been shown once a character is a clone, they won't be able to not be a clone ever again, so if you want a character in Smash, why doom them to that life?

Ganondorf doesn't have the same final smash as Captain Falcon.

Jet pack = Ponytail

She can randomly have a peanut gun too. It's Smash Bros, not the Holy Nintendo Canon® Museum.
 
Yeah, I used it to show that the Villager wasn't some kind of random character nobody could've guessed, since Sakurai had brought up putting him in but changed his mind.

Using what we know, the only logical conclusion is that Villager can't be playable. Anyone who deviates from that idea is declared silly, because Sakurai said that the character can't be playable.

If Wii Fit Trainer is a lucky guess, so is Villager, because it goes against what we know about Sakurai.
 
Is it ridiculous for me to admit I barely feel I know Ganondorf? I've never fought him since I've never finished a 3D Zelda, even though I've played them all, except for Skyward Sword
 
Ganondorf doesn't have the same final smash as Captain Falcon.

Jet pack = Ponytail

She can randomly have a peanut gun too. It's Smash Bros, not the Holy Nintendo Canon® Museum.

Hell she was even given one in DKCTF from my memory so she could have the same crappy projectile pound as Cranky and Diddy.

Clones are low-effort. DKCTF's concurrent development time isn't an excuse against her.
 
You can divide 49 slots up so that it makes a perfect 7x7 square, the upside pyramid is pointless and ugly. It's not conclusive of r roster being complete at all. Brawl's roster was an upside pyramid of sorts without everyone unlocked as well.

Yeah the upside down pyramid looks dumb. Put Shulk one row above and it looks better. Though I wouldn't put it past them to have this be final because clone corner also looks bad and barely makes sense when Toon Link is in the right place.
 
Greninja brings nothing to Smash, cut 'em

Isabelle brings something to Smash because everyone likes her, like, almost universally. I've literally never ever EVER seen anyone say "ugh, Isabelle." She is probably one of the most endearing Nintendo characters and she has existed for barely one year.

As for Doc Louis, he brings a lot of potential humour, since he would have a ton of dialogue that he could use during the fights. He could also play around with mode switching, where he can switch between three sets of custom movesets on the fly and would be the only character to be able to do that in Smash.

I didn't mean that. I meant it as playable characters. I love Doc being around for Little mac's victory pose, I love the character. And Isabelle is cool too, as an AT, because everything usable for Smash from the Animal Crossing franchise is already in the Villager moveset in my opinion.

Isabelle assists in the game, she assists here. Doc shared victories with Little Mac in the game, he does the same here. I honestly don't see why wouldn't people be satisfied with that.
 
People talk predictability, but Villager, Pac-Man, Mega Man, Mii Fighters - before any human being, he uttered that name in public - etc. together is not predictable.

It is virtually impossible that Gematsu was fake.

It's possible that the first leak was real, but that was the only information the leaker had, and everything else was fake made up just to get people's attention.


2. He called them Mii Fighters, capitalized

He said Mii Fighter and never suggested that there'd be multiple types. Yeah, it seems very close, but considering the number of mistakes in the later leaks, I'd say that was just a lucky guess. It wasn't even mentioned as a character name or anything, just part of an unrelated sentence in the third leak.
 
Is it ridiculous for me to admit I barely feel I know Ganondorf? I've never fought him since I've never finished a 3D Zelda, even though I've played them all, except for Skyward Sword

Skyward Sword spoilers:
He wasn't even in that game at all.

Did you at least meet him in OoT, WW and
TP
?
 
I hardly doubt Dr. Mario is going to be shooting fireballs and using FLUDD.
I believe Doc won't use Fluud either, but Doctor Tornado's animation is already in the game, then they can just borrow/modify Luigi's down aerial animation.

But Dixie needs so many changes to use Diddy's moves correctly, it doesn't make sense for her to be a clone. It's more effort to try and bend her around Diddy's moves than it is to just make a new character or add Alph or all the other things they could do instead of adding Dixie.
 
I'd guess you have to set them up in the customization screen before the icon shows up on character select at all. Then you'd have one big "Mii Fighters" slot as a catch-all and pick the one you want from a submenu or as you would an alt color.

This is an interesting point; maybe mii fighters are disabled because no miis are registered in the demo units.
Exactly

There is no default mii. They can be too different from eachother :p
You've convinced me. I'm also convinced Lightning is in the game too.
Wtf, your avatar is more haunted than Luigi's dreams
 
Well, it might be because Doc Louis fans prefer "playing" as Doc Louis over "not playing"? :P

Further, it shouldn't matter their role in the original game; Ganondorf was never playable in any video game before Melee, so shouldn't he be just a boss? Or Zelda be an assist character, since you never played as her? And we can see that other games don't relegate "assist" characters to assist positions - Isabelle is her own racer in Mario Kart 8 after all.
 
Is it ridiculous for me to admit I barely feel I know Ganondorf? I've never fought him since I've never finished a 3D Zelda, even though I've played them all, except for Skyward Sword
For as important as he is to the Zelda lore, Ganondorf is never developed much in any Zelda game, with nearly all of his humanizing qualities stemming from a few lines in The Wind Waker ("I coveted that wind, I suppose"). And his screen time, all things considered, is equally minimal. But aside from Majora's Mask, the Zelda series never had much in the way of a notable story, IMO.
 
She actually was.
In the game's code.

Same with Mewtwo, Pulse and Minum, and Toon Sheik.

I can understand the twins not getting in. Same with toon , especially now that Zelda and sheik are separate; though a Zelda/Tetra character would be neat.

I still have hope for Mewtwo and Dixie.
 
I believe Doc won't use Fluud either, but Doctor Tornado's animation is already in the game, then they can just borrow/modify Luigi's down aerial animation.

But Dixie needs so many changes to use Diddy's moves correctly, it doesn't make sense for her to be a clone. It's more effort to try and bend her around Diddy's moves than it is to just make a new character or add Alph or all the other things they could do instead of adding Dixie.

You're literally arguing that two similarly sized chimps, who have been partners since forever, can't be moveset clones of each other.
 
Skyward Sword spoilers:
He wasn't even in that game at all.

Did you at least meet him in OoT, WW and
TP
?
Damn I thought that spoiler was a joke :lol I'll probably never bother to play it anyway.

Yeah of course I've met him, I've played through WW 5 times (yet I've never finished it)
 
Reposting for a final time:

How do you know this? How do you know you can't select the trophy from your reward list and view the trophy directly from the results screen? Which, given the fact Barbara is shown as sixth in the list of the trophy haul and displays a correlating trophy count, could very likely be the case.

But this is just return speculation. Nobody knows for sure.
 
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