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I don't understand how his first instinct - as a fucking security guard - is to whip out his phone and record. Boggles my mind
Probably not a legit (insured) security guard and was just asked to hang about the store area and act as a scare crow for potential miscreants.
 
I'm black, and before I even clicked on the thread I knew these 'teenagers' were black. Now what does that tell you?

I was really hoping that it wouldn't be when I clicked but... man this type of nonsense still happens. Both ways. It's so dumb, both sides need to do better.
 
A pistol with 200 bullets?

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What now, teens.
 
To be fair (and I'm not advocating that anyone should carry a gun), if he had produced a firearm, most if not all of those kids would've bolted. Now, whether he's a level-headed enough individual to avoid unnecessarily shooting anyone is another matter (and sort of the big problem with people having guns.)
I'm a pacifist anyway, so I don't believe there is any such thing as "necessary shooting." Ultimately, this entire happening is a failure of the entire community. You can't say it is just some individual cases of bad parenting when it is obviously much larger. If the community valued their youth, even the indirect positive influence in the lives of these 100+ particular youth would have been great enough to prevent them from reaching such a low of empathy and behavior. Even casting responsibility for dealing with it upon the police is insufficient and reckless. When something this large happens, the entire community needs to wake up and guide the kids.
 
I'm black, and before I even clicked on the thread I knew these 'teenagers' were black. Now what does that tell you?

You have some self-hatred to work through, probably.

Terrible that a group of kids have so little esteem in themselves and other people that such a large group would do this. Hopefully they all get identified, and glad that those assailed are okay.
 
As a manager at my local Kroger, this is troubling. We have no security at our store, and groups of teens can be so rowdy and unpredictable.


Murder Kroger is an actual thing, which is saddening. At our store, someone was ran over by a Loomis truck once. An elderly woman. We also had an elderly woman die in our pharmacy drive-thru. She accidentally left her car in drive as she stepped from the vehicle to grab a dropped package. The car literally scraped her down the brick wall. It was such a devastating tragedy. Freak accident.

Besides those two events, I recall a woman threatening suicide in our parking lot once, and a courtesy clerk being held up by a man with a knife while waiting on the curb for his ride one night. Also, we had a clerk who had their tires stolen off of their vehicle while he was working.
 
Wow. I hope every last kid that participated gets caught and put in juvie and those egging it on face charges as well. And if anyone was an actual adult throw them in jail.
 
The One and Done™;128920061 said:
He should have been carrying a gun per Krogers policy.

That policy is different from when I worked with Kroger. Granted, it's been 10 years but all LP had when I was working with them were plastic zip cuffs and a pepper spray can, along with a direct line to call to get police backup if required.
 
As a manager at my local Kroger, this is troubling. We have no security at our store, and groups of teens can be so rowdy and unpredictable.


Murder Kroger is an actual thing, which is saddening. At our store, someone was ran over by a Loomis truck once. An elderly woman. We also had an elderly woman die in our pharmacy drive-thru. She accidentally left her car in drive as she stepped from the vehicle to grab a dropped package. The car literally scraped her down the brick wall. It was such a devastating tragedy. Freak accident.

Besides those two events, I recall a woman threatening suicide in our parking lot once, and a courtesy clerk being held up by a man with a knife while waiting on the curb for his ride one night. Also, we had a clerk who had their tires stolen off of their vehicle while he was working.

The Kroger I used to shop at 4-5 years ago always had a security guard and working cameras. It was in a nice neighborhood, too.
 
I never knew this flash mob stuff really happened. Pretty disgusting behavior, attacking innocent people. If it's not knockout games, homeless beatings, it's worrying about whether a large group of teens will go around shitkicking random people.
 
I can only imagine what they were doing in the pizza place they all came out of too, and what the lead story would be if the owners tried to kick them out.
 

For once...I couldn't finish watching...

Fucking animals. Like...you have NOTHING else better to do? Why are there so many kids out that late? Why are they not home?

Those poor people could have been killed. Just awful.

So I was curious. It only took three posts for a group of black kids to get called animals, so how long would such terminology take to show up in threads about ISIS. Let's find out. (50ppg plebe here)

Man survives an ISIS massacre - 2 pages, and no mentions of animals. Hmm. Note that this thread is about a lone survivor to an actual MASSACRE. Let's continue.

Iraqi army captures Chinese national fighting with ISIS - 2 page thread, no mention of beasts here.

ISIS threatens Russia and Putin, vows to liberate Chechnya and Caucasus - 4 pages, not seeing any animals here.

ISIS Claims To Have Beheaded American Journalist - Come on. American photojournalist brutality beheaded on camera? I'm sure animals/savages was the first response!

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NOPE. We have savage pretty far down the page, props Jandro (BCT fo' life). No sign of animal until... page three! Post 109. I guess it could have been worse.

BBC: Islamic State video purports to show beheading of US hostage Steven Sotloff Again? These pieces of shit. Tempers had to have been flaring in this thread. Surely "animal" came up fast and fierce... Whoo. Post 21. Not bad. Please note that "animal" does not reoccur until page 4. Odd that "animal popped up earlier and was repeated much quicker in a thread about black teens beating people up, right?

This has been something I've consistently noticed. Black teens, are often quickly labeled as something subhuman on a consistent basis here on gaf and elsewhere. Disgusting what these kids did, but I'm not blind to this overeagerness to deny humanity to blacks.
 
So I was curious. It only took three posts for a group of black kids to get called animals, so how long would such terminology take to show up in threads about ISIS. Let's find out. (50ppg plebe here)

Man survives an ISIS massacre - 2 pages, and no mentions of animals. Hmm. Note that this thread is about a lone survivor to an actual MASSACRE. Let's continue.

Iraqi army captures Chinese national fighting with ISIS - 2 page thread, no mention of beasts here.

ISIS threatens Russia and Putin, vows to liberate Chechnya and Caucasus - 4 pages, not seeing any animals here.

ISIS Claims To Have Beheaded American Journalist - Come on. American photojournalist brutality beheaded on camera? I'm sure animals/savages was the first response!

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NOPE. We have savage pretty far down the page, props Jandro (BCT fo' life). No sign of animal until... page three! Post 109. I guess it could have been worse.

BBC: Islamic State video purports to show beheading of US hostage Steven Sotloff Again? These pieces of shit. Tempers had to have been flaring in this thread. Surely "animal" came up fast and fierce... Whoo. Post 21. Not bad. Please note that "animal" does not reoccur until page 4. Odd that "animal popped up earlier and was repeated much quicker in a thread about black teens beating people up, right?

This has been something I've consistently noticed. Black teens, are often quickly labeled as something subhuman on a consistent basis here on gaf and elsewhere. Disgusting what these kids did, but I'm not blind to this overeagerness to deny humanity to blacks.

I feel this is reaching. I have no doubts that anyone using the term 'animals' would have said the exact same, regardless of race, were the teens white, black, hispanic, ect.
 
We have a winner. And I grew up in a pretty bad neighborhood, so I guess the real answer is that I've seen this before.

And lol at some of the responses. It's not racism to have reasonably deduce based on past events that a particular race is involved. Racism would be to say all of us are are like that, or that we're genetically predisposed.
I'm actually worried if people think I'd be racist if I would consider this to be a hate crime. I would hope not as it's a reasonable assumption.
 
We have a winner. And I grew up in a pretty bad neighborhood, so I guess the real answer is that I've seen this before.

And lol at some of the responses. It's not racism to have reasonably deduce based on past events that a particular race is involved. Racism would be to say all of us are are like that, or that we're genetically predisposed.

Mm.

You have a bright future ahead of you.
 
So I was curious. It only took three posts for a group of black kids to get called animals, so how long would such terminology take to show up in threads about ISIS. Let's find out. (50ppg plebe here)

Man survives an ISIS massacre - 2 pages, and no mentions of animals. Hmm. Note that this thread is about a lone survivor to an actual MASSACRE. Let's continue.

Iraqi army captures Chinese national fighting with ISIS - 2 page thread, no mention of beasts here.

ISIS threatens Russia and Putin, vows to liberate Chechnya and Caucasus - 4 pages, not seeing any animals here.

ISIS Claims To Have Beheaded American Journalist - Come on. American photojournalist brutality beheaded on camera? I'm sure animals/savages was the first response!

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NOPE. We have savage pretty far down the page, props Jandro (BCT fo' life). No sign of animal until... page three! Post 109. I guess it could have been worse.

BBC: Islamic State video purports to show beheading of US hostage Steven Sotloff Again? These pieces of shit. Tempers had to have been flaring in this thread. Surely "animal" came up fast and fierce... Whoo. Post 21. Not bad. Please note that "animal" does not reoccur until page 4. Odd that "animal popped up earlier and was repeated much quicker in a thread about black teens beating people up, right?

This has been something I've consistently noticed. Black teens, are often quickly labeled as something subhuman on a consistent basis here on gaf and elsewhere. Disgusting what these kids did, but I'm not blind to this overeagerness to deny humanity to blacks.

Comparing ISIS to animals would be insulting to animals though
 
So I was curious. It only took three posts for a group of black kids to get called animals, so how long would such terminology take to show up in threads about ISIS. Let's find out. (50ppg plebe here)

Man survives an ISIS massacre - 2 pages, and no mentions of animals. Hmm. Note that this thread is about a lone survivor to an actual MASSACRE. Let's continue.

Iraqi army captures Chinese national fighting with ISIS - 2 page thread, no mention of beasts here.

ISIS threatens Russia and Putin, vows to liberate Chechnya and Caucasus - 4 pages, not seeing any animals here.

ISIS Claims To Have Beheaded American Journalist - Come on. American photojournalist brutality beheaded on camera? I'm sure animals/savages was the first response!

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....

NOPE. We have savage pretty far down the page, props Jandro (BCT fo' life). No sign of animal until... page three! Post 109. I guess it could have been worse.

BBC: Islamic State video purports to show beheading of US hostage Steven Sotloff Again? These pieces of shit. Tempers had to have been flaring in this thread. Surely "animal" came up fast and fierce... Whoo. Post 21. Not bad. Please note that "animal" does not reoccur until page 4. Odd that "animal popped up earlier and was repeated much quicker in a thread about black teens beating people up, right?

This has been something I've consistently noticed. Black teens, are often quickly labeled as something subhuman on a consistent basis here on gaf and elsewhere. Disgusting what these kids did, but I'm not blind to this overeagerness to deny humanity to blacks.
Come on dude. People aren't just calling them animals because they happen to be black.
 
If someone isn't called a nigger, I know, I know... heard it all before.

You're making this more complicated than it should and deviating from the thread. Those fucking teens assaulted people for no reason and need to be locked up. Nothing to do with racism.
 
I'm actually worried if people think I'd be racist if I would consider this to be a hate crime. I would hope not as it's a reasonable assumption.
Is it?
http://wreg.com/2014/09/07/witness-reacts-to-violent-attack-at-kroger/ said:
“They were playing a game called ‘point them out, knock them out.’ Where they would point someone out and attempt to knock them out or fight them. There was no real reason behind it.

. . .

But the witness says this clip is just a tiny snapshot of what happened in the entire parking lot. He states, blacks, whites, girls and boys were all part of the vicious pack.

“Were all of the victims white?” asked WREG’s Elise Preston.

“No, they were black and white. Will is white, Brian is black. and then my other friend, Brandon, he`s black as well,” replied the witness.
 
“They were playing a game called ‘point them out, knock them out.’ Where they would point someone out and attempt to knock them out or fight them. There was no real reason behind it.

But the witness says this clip is just a tiny snapshot of what happened in the entire parking lot. He states, blacks, whites, girls and boys were all part of the vicious pack.

“Were all of the victims white?” asked WREG’s Elise Preston.

“No, they were black and white. Will is white, Brian is black. and then my other friend, Brandon, he`s black as well,” replied the witness.

If this is how the youth are in today's world then that makes me truly sad. I played outside, played video games, and you bet your ass I respected my elders.
 
You're making this more complicated than it should and deviating from the thread. Those fucking teens assaulted people for no reason and need to be locked up. Nothing to do with racism.

You're absolutely insane if you believe that guy on the ground getting face kicked in wasn't targeted because of his skin color.
 
Is this a trend or something in Memphis where large groups of teenagers attack people? Maybe you can tell us what a fam mob is.

Unfortunately, I cannot. Memphis still suffers from racial and class segregation, and I lived in the affluent white neighborhoods while I was attending university. I haven't seen a whole lot of crime, much less something like this.

As a manager at my local Kroger, this is troubling. We have no security at our store, and groups of teens can be so rowdy and unpredictable.


Murder Kroger is an actual thing, which is saddening. At our store, someone was ran over by a Loomis truck once. An elderly woman. We also had an elderly woman die in our pharmacy drive-thru. She accidentally left her car in drive as she stepped from the vehicle to grab a dropped package. The car literally scraped her down the brick wall. It was such a devastating tragedy. Freak accident.

Besides those two events, I recall a woman threatening suicide in our parking lot once, and a courtesy clerk being held up by a man with a knife while waiting on the curb for his ride one night. Also, we had a clerk who had their tires stolen off of their vehicle while he was working.

Dude, this... Jesus Christ. That hurts to just to hear. I sincerely hope that your day-to-day work is more mundane and cheerful than this.
 
So I was curious. It only took three posts for a group of black kids to get called animals, so how long would such terminology take to show up in threads about ISIS. Let's find out. (50ppg plebe here)

Man survives an ISIS massacre - 2 pages, and no mentions of animals. Hmm. Note that this thread is about a lone survivor to an actual MASSACRE. Let's continue.

Iraqi army captures Chinese national fighting with ISIS - 2 page thread, no mention of beasts here.

ISIS threatens Russia and Putin, vows to liberate Chechnya and Caucasus - 4 pages, not seeing any animals here.

ISIS Claims To Have Beheaded American Journalist - Come on. American photojournalist brutality beheaded on camera? I'm sure animals/savages was the first response!

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NOPE. We have savage pretty far down the page, props Jandro (BCT fo' life). No sign of animal until... page three! Post 109. I guess it could have been worse.

BBC: Islamic State video purports to show beheading of US hostage Steven Sotloff Again? These pieces of shit. Tempers had to have been flaring in this thread. Surely "animal" came up fast and fierce... Whoo. Post 21. Not bad. Please note that "animal" does not reoccur until page 4. Odd that "animal popped up earlier and was repeated much quicker in a thread about black teens beating people up, right?

This has been something I've consistently noticed. Black teens, are often quickly labeled as something subhuman on a consistent basis here on gaf and elsewhere. Disgusting what these kids did, but I'm not blind to this overeagerness to deny humanity to blacks.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=878381&page=2

They are referred to animals quite often in this thread. That being said, going off of the posts in that thread there seems to be very little evidence of ISIS being seen as less 'animalistic' than black people are on NeoGAF. It's pretty clear most of us want ISIS 'gone', one way or another. They're referred to as savages, barbarians, animals, etc.

I really don't think it's that deep dude. And aside from that, it's off topic.
 
You're absolutely insane if you believe that guy on the ground getting face kicked in wasn't targeted because of his skin color.
Is he?
http://wreg.com/2014/09/07/witness-reacts-to-violent-attack-at-kroger/ said:
“They were playing a game called ‘point them out, knock them out.’ Where they would point someone out and attempt to knock them out or fight them. There was no real reason behind it.

. . .

But the witness says this clip is just a tiny snapshot of what happened in the entire parking lot. He states, blacks, whites, girls and boys were all part of the vicious pack.

“Were all of the victims white?” asked WREG’s Elise Preston.

“No, they were black and white. Will is white, Brian is black. and then my other friend, Brandon, he`s black as well,” replied the witness.
 
I can't put myself into the headspace of people who do things like this when trying to come up with any sort of rational for their actions. What's to be gained from nearly killing a stranger?
 
So I was curious. It only took three posts for a group of black kids to get called animals, so how long would such terminology take to show up in threads about ISIS. Let's find out. (50ppg plebe here)

Man survives an ISIS massacre - 2 pages, and no mentions of animals. Hmm. Note that this thread is about a lone survivor to an actual MASSACRE. Let's continue.

Iraqi army captures Chinese national fighting with ISIS - 2 page thread, no mention of beasts here.

ISIS threatens Russia and Putin, vows to liberate Chechnya and Caucasus - 4 pages, not seeing any animals here.

ISIS Claims To Have Beheaded American Journalist - Come on. American photojournalist brutality beheaded on camera? I'm sure animals/savages was the first response!

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NOPE. We have savage pretty far down the page, props Jandro (BCT fo' life). No sign of animal until... page three! Post 109. I guess it could have been worse.

BBC: Islamic State video purports to show beheading of US hostage Steven Sotloff Again? These pieces of shit. Tempers had to have been flaring in this thread. Surely "animal" came up fast and fierce... Whoo. Post 21. Not bad. Please note that "animal" does not reoccur until page 4. Odd that "animal popped up earlier and was repeated much quicker in a thread about black teens beating people up, right?

This has been something I've consistently noticed. Black teens, are often quickly labeled as something subhuman on a consistent basis here on gaf and elsewhere. Disgusting what these kids did, but I'm not blind to this overeagerness to deny humanity to blacks.

I might be blind here, but I'm pretty sure I saw white kids in that mob too...

So correlating animals = black folk doesn't apply here. It's the matter of having teenaged kids in a mob, aiming to hit people for no fucking reason.

Not that it matters, it's still super fucked up what happened.

What were they doing out so late when schools started?
 
I can't put myself into the headspace of people who do things like this when trying to come up with any sort of rational for their actions. What's to be gained from nearly killing a stranger?

I'm sure there's some psychological term and explanation.. mob mentality or whatever. But at the end of the day, they're just a bunch of assholes. Rationality doesnt enter into it.
 
I'm sure there's some psychological term and explanation.. mob mentality or whatever. But at the end of the day, they're just a bunch of assholes. Rationality doesnt enter into it.
Mob mentality play a large part in it because you can hide behind numbers but what was the initial spark that lead this group of people to participate in attempted murder? Really disheartening stuff.
 
So I was curious. It only took three posts for a group of black kids to get called animals, so how long would such terminology take to show up in threads about ISIS. Let's find out. (50ppg plebe here)

Man survives an ISIS massacre - 2 pages, and no mentions of animals. Hmm. Note that this thread is about a lone survivor to an actual MASSACRE. Let's continue.

Iraqi army captures Chinese national fighting with ISIS - 2 page thread, no mention of beasts here.

ISIS threatens Russia and Putin, vows to liberate Chechnya and Caucasus - 4 pages, not seeing any animals here.

ISIS Claims To Have Beheaded American Journalist - Come on. American photojournalist brutality beheaded on camera? I'm sure animals/savages was the first response!

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....

NOPE. We have savage pretty far down the page, props Jandro (BCT fo' life). No sign of animal until... page three! Post 109. I guess it could have been worse.

BBC: Islamic State video purports to show beheading of US hostage Steven Sotloff Again? These pieces of shit. Tempers had to have been flaring in this thread. Surely "animal" came up fast and fierce... Whoo. Post 21. Not bad. Please note that "animal" does not reoccur until page 4. Odd that "animal popped up earlier and was repeated much quicker in a thread about black teens beating people up, right?

This has been something I've consistently noticed. Black teens, are often quickly labeled as something subhuman on a consistent basis here on gaf and elsewhere. Disgusting what these kids did, but I'm not blind to this overeagerness to deny humanity to blacks.

That's some interesting bait you have there on that line.
 
Fucking animals. They need to be put on a leash, acting like that

Deplorable

They want to act like vicious animals they should be treated as such and either permanently put into cages, or put down. Those kicks could have easily killed that employee, or serious, permanent bodily injury.
 
So I was curious. It only took three posts for a group of black kids to get called animals, so how long would such terminology take to show up in threads about ISIS. Let's find out. (50ppg plebe here)

Man survives an ISIS massacre - 2 pages, and no mentions of animals. Hmm. Note that this thread is about a lone survivor to an actual MASSACRE. Let's continue.

Iraqi army captures Chinese national fighting with ISIS - 2 page thread, no mention of beasts here.

ISIS threatens Russia and Putin, vows to liberate Chechnya and Caucasus - 4 pages, not seeing any animals here.

ISIS Claims To Have Beheaded American Journalist - Come on. American photojournalist brutality beheaded on camera? I'm sure animals/savages was the first response!

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NOPE. We have savage pretty far down the page, props Jandro (BCT fo' life). No sign of animal until... page three! Post 109. I guess it could have been worse.

BBC: Islamic State video purports to show beheading of US hostage Steven Sotloff Again? These pieces of shit. Tempers had to have been flaring in this thread. Surely "animal" came up fast and fierce... Whoo. Post 21. Not bad. Please note that "animal" does not reoccur until page 4. Odd that "animal popped up earlier and was repeated much quicker in a thread about black teens beating people up, right?

This has been something I've consistently noticed. Black teens, are often quickly labeled as something subhuman on a consistent basis here on gaf and elsewhere. Disgusting what these kids did, but I'm not blind to this overeagerness to deny humanity to blacks.
"These fucks need to be wiped the hell out. They are a cancer to humanity, the region they inhabit, and the religion they represent."

"These fucking cunts need to be eradicated"

"Fucking savages"

These are all in the first page of one of the threads you linked.
 
Happens here too, which is why police have increased patrols in tourist areas because the mob of black teens started targeting white tourists. It has died down when police answered with police horses, police in ATVs, bicycles, and helicopter to round up every one they could. Police started shutting down the entire train system and rerouting buses so the wandering black teen mobs could be more easily rounded up.

Since then, it got riskier for the mobs because more people got conceal carry licenses. Not to mention that they started risking more when gangs in some of those areas found out some black kids were beating and robbing people on their territory.
 
So I was curious. It only took three posts for a group of black kids to get called animals, so how long would such terminology take to show up in threads about ISIS. Let's find out. (50ppg plebe here)

Man survives an ISIS massacre - 2 pages, and no mentions of animals. Hmm. Note that this thread is about a lone survivor to an actual MASSACRE. Let's continue.

Iraqi army captures Chinese national fighting with ISIS - 2 page thread, no mention of beasts here.

ISIS threatens Russia and Putin, vows to liberate Chechnya and Caucasus - 4 pages, not seeing any animals here.

ISIS Claims To Have Beheaded American Journalist - Come on. American photojournalist brutality beheaded on camera? I'm sure animals/savages was the first response!

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....

NOPE. We have savage pretty far down the page, props Jandro (BCT fo' life). No sign of animal until... page three! Post 109. I guess it could have been worse.

BBC: Islamic State video purports to show beheading of US hostage Steven Sotloff Again? These pieces of shit. Tempers had to have been flaring in this thread. Surely "animal" came up fast and fierce... Whoo. Post 21. Not bad. Please note that "animal" does not reoccur until page 4. Odd that "animal popped up earlier and was repeated much quicker in a thread about black teens beating people up, right?

This has been something I've consistently noticed. Black teens, are often quickly labeled as something subhuman on a consistent basis here on gaf and elsewhere. Disgusting what these kids did, but I'm not blind to this overeagerness to deny humanity to blacks.

ISIS hasn't been on the radar all that long, and as those threads show people still have a lot of questions about them ("Why do they X, Are they Y?"). They're also (depending on where you're located) on the other side of the world in a region that's incredibly unstable.

This happened in a country that's supposed to be pretty civilized. They acted like animals, no need to defend them. Seems like you're just wanting to make an issue out of something that isn't there.

Like others have said, whites were also part of the mob. Maybe you should look into something more before jumping to conclusions.
 
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